Thailand believes condemnation will reduce chances of resolving conflict in Ukraine

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Powder said:

why symphatize with a country full of Nazis, who use their own people as a shield.

kill their own citizens.

most of the sheeple condemn the Russians for almost everything. respect for Thailand that they stay neutral 

Incredibly toxic and false propaganda. 

[ChrisKC]

Same as the neutral stand on the invasion itself.

 

We get the message and so do millions of others across the world.

 

Just about everybody following this war knows that diplomacy from the West will not be met by Putin unless it is an agreement to keep what he has stolen.

 

i think the war for Putin will end, not only mean losing what he stole since 24 February but to lose what he stole in 2014 (Crimea) as well! And for Russia thereafter to become a pariah State!

 

And I will be quite happy with that outcome!

[Neeranam]

11 hours ago, Robert Tyrrell said:

Good Morning,

 

ABSOLUTELY SHAMEFUL THAILAND, SHAMEFUL !! 

What are you talking about? 

The Ukraine war has nothing to do with Thailand, why should we pick sides? 

Did we take sides in the Iraq war, and condemn  Baby Bush/Blair etc in 2004? No, we are a peaceful country, you have been brainwashed by American propaganda. It was Biden that 'started', or at least stirred up this war for political /financial reasons. 

 

Edited October 14, 2022 by Neeranam

[Neeranam]

10 hours ago, johncat1 said:

Thailand have shown its real colours by inviting Putin to the Apec summit in November in Bangkok. So Thailand are no longer sitting on the fence, they have chosen Russia to support. Plus of course all those rich Russian tourists and now Russian draft dodgers. All down to money and choosing what they think is the winning side ( Same with Japan in WW2 ) 

The Thai flag should be yellow with white feathers.  

Similar to inviting Bush in 2004, after invading and killing hundreds of thousands of innocents in Iraq. 

We have not chosen to side with Russia, the Ukrainian guy would be welcome too, despite being as corrupt as hell. 

Edited October 14, 2022 by Neeranam

[Lacessit]

16 minutes ago, Powder said:

why symphatize with a country full of Nazis, who use their own people as a shield.

kill their own citizens.

most of the sheeple condemn the Russians for almost everything. respect for Thailand that they stay neutral 

Zelensky is Jewish, the claim he is leading a "country full of Nazis" is deluded.

So you are praising the Russians for shelling non-military targets such as hospitals, schools and apartment buildings. Even nuclear power stations?

[cardinalblue]

Thailand only cares about tourists and it doesn’t matter who or where they come from…

 

they have no backbone for determining what is right or wrong…their gov’s structure same as China and Russia..let’s not forget that…

[coolcarer]

13 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

What are you talking about? 

The Ukraine war has nothing to do with Thailand, why should we pick sides? 

Did we take sides in the Iraq war, and condemn  Baby Bush/Blair etc in 2004? No, we are a peaceful country, you have been brainwashed by American propaganda. It was Biden that 'started', or at least stirred up this war for political /financial reasons. 

 

Oh look, another conspiracy theorist that claims Biden started/stirred this up for political/financial reasons. Lol 

[Neeranam]

4 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

Thailand only cares about tourists and it doesn’t matter who or where they come from…

 

they have no backbone for determining what is right or wrong…their gov’s structure same as China and Russia..let’s not forget that…

How would you feel if Thailand's government banned all Americans and Brits during the Gulf War? Oh yes, this is different. 

[Neeranam]

36 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

Same as the neutral stand on the invasion itself.

 

We get the message and so do millions of others across the world.

 

Just about everybody following this war knows that diplomacy from the West will not be met by Putin unless it is an agreement to keep what he has stolen.

 

i think the war for Putin will end, not only mean losing what he stole since 24 February but to lose what he stole in 2014 (Crimea) as well! And for Russia thereafter to become a pariah State!

 

And I will be quite happy with that outcome!

I hope you are not from the US or the UK, as pot and kettle come to mind. 

[metisdead]

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[billd766]

10 hours ago, stoner said:

did you actually post this as a serious comment ? 

Did you?

[ChrisKC]

17 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I hope you are not from the US or the UK, as pot and kettle come to mind. 

I am from UK and pots and kettles are not proper comparisons with the current war. Looks like your hope needs to be altered to disappointment. There are not many countries in the world that can claim much innocence when it comes to wars including my own over hundreds of years.

 

My comments are justified and I stand by them. 

[coolcarer]

28 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

How would you feel if Thailand's government banned all Americans and Brits during the Gulf War? Oh yes, this is different. 

Who said anything about banning tourists from Russia? Did you read his post? It did not mention that at all. 

[ChrisKC]

Just now, coolcarer said:

Who said anything about banning tourists from Russia? Did you read his post? It did not mention that at all. 

He's got a thing about the past and that nobody else ever involved in a past war should help those in need! 

[Rimmer]

Off topic troll post and reply removed

[rattlesnake]

16 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Very naive.

The only way for there to be a peaceful end game for Putin's folly war is for Ukraine to continue to win decisively. 

Putin's goal remains and will always be to erase the nation of Ukraine forever. ALL of it.

Sorry that the Thai leaders don't see it (they probably do but insist on not making waves).

Quality geopolitical analysis…

 

There is an important distinction to make between those who triggered the conflict and those who made it inevitable.

 

Western leaders will fight till the last Ukrainian and trigger WWIII in an attempt to quell the major social unrest which has now become inevitable in their countries due to their policies.

 

Tell me, who has been bombarding the Donbas populations since 2014?

Edited October 14, 2022 by rattlesnake

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Quality geopolitical analysis…

 

There is an important distinction to make between those who triggered the conflict and those who made it inevitable.

 

Western leaders will fight till the last Ukrainian and trigger WWIII in an attempt to quell the major social unrest which has now become inevitable in their countries due to their policies.

 

Tell me, who has been bombarding the Dombass populations since 2014?

"Tell me, who has been bombarding the Dombass populations since 2014?"

 

Why don't you answer that with links?

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Quality geopolitical analysis…

 

There is an important distinction to make between those who triggered the conflict and those who made it inevitable.

 

Western leaders will fight till the last Ukrainian and trigger WWIII in an attempt to quell the major social unrest which has now become inevitable in their countries due to their policies.

 

Tell me, who has been bombarding the Dombass populations since 2014?

Internal UKRAINE conflict like South Thailand. Not buying into that Putinista talking point. 

 

Here's one for you.

 

What were Russian separatist operatives doing in Ukraine before the invasion for many years before this year's invasion?

 

How would the Thai government feel if Malaysian operatives were doing the same in South Thailand.

 

Quite simply the history of the conflict in Eastern Ukraine is very complex. The truth is nothing like the Putin comic book version you present. What you present is one side unadulterated pro Putin propaganda. It can't be taken seriously any more than the recent sham referendums or that Putin invaded to defeat Nazis.

[rattlesnake]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Internal UKRAINE conflict like South Thailand. Not buying into that Putinista talking point. 

 

Here's one for you.

 

What were Russian separatist operatives doing in Ukraine before the invasion for many years before this year's invasion?

 

How would the Thai government feel if Malaysian operatives were doing the same in South Thailand.

 

Quite simply the history of the conflict in Eastern Ukraine is very complex. The truth is nothing like the Putin comic book version you present. What you present is one side unadulterated pro Putin propaganda. It can't be taken seriously any more than the recent sham referendums or that Putin invaded to defeat Nazis.

You keep on believing that.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

You keep on believing that.

High level stuff. I've heard enough. Bye.

[Kalasin Jo]

I have read that Putin will be visiting Thailand soon. Will the Prime Minister take that opportunity to broker a settlement whereby Ukraine has its Russian annexed territory restored, Russian troops withdraw with a ceasefire and the Russian authorities submit to paying reparations and to a a war crimes investigation?

[nausea]

Basically, Thailand has no interest in pi@#ing off, China, India, Russia, or the USA. Talk about stuck between a rock and a hard place.

[nausea]

The human cost in Ukraine is on humongous levels. Will someone please say stop. 

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

You keep on believing that.

What do you believe then, nonsense conspiracy theories?

 

If you'd like the facts then these are what they are. The reports you've obviously seen from pro Russian outlets and even Russian Embassy tweets on numbers of those killed in the Donbas war and regions of 14k are nearly correct (they are in fact between 14,200 and 14,400) from 2014 to 2021. They are taken from a UN report that was issued on 27th Jan 2022. pdf download source "Conflict-related civilian casualties in Ukraine"

 

However what those propaganda outlets fail to mention when spewing out genocide and slaughter of ethnic Russian civilians are the breakdown of deaths which are:

 

"10,900 victims were soldiers, of which 4,400 were Ukrainians and 6,500 pro-Russian combatants of or on behalf of the separatist pseudo-republics, civilian victims were between 3,400 and 3,500, the latter were in turn not all victims of attacks and of drones and rockets launched by Ukraine against the pseudo-republics, in fact, a part died in the portions of the oblasts of Luhansk and Donetsk that remained under Ukrainian control during attacks by separatists, 1,589+ killed in Kyiv & at least 55 of the war-related child deaths were from the Kyiv area and another 34 were from Kharkiv.

The U.N. report also notes that 8.8% of all civilian victims come from a single incident, which happened on July 17, 2014, when Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur was shot by a missile."

 

In addition most deaths occurred within the first 2 years of the war, in 2021 the amount of civilian causalities was 110: 25 killed (16 men, two women, three boys, one girl and three adults whose sex is not yet known) and 85 injured (56 men, 21 women, six boys and two girls), a 26.2 per cent decrease compared with 2020 (149: 26 killed and 123 injured), and the lowest annual civilian casualties for the entire conflict period.

 

I note that as a member of the UN Russia has not disputed this with them, I wonder why? 

 

Yet the genocide conspiracy rhetoric is still promoted.

Edited October 14, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[Tug]

It’s a shame in my opinion that Thailand doesent seem to be willing to stand up for what is morally correct in condemning Russias war of conquest .perhaps they are licking their chops at opertunity some cheap fuel ?who knows for sure imo it certainly gives Thailand a black eye sad

[Antifreeze]

16 hours ago, mamypoko said:

$hame

Exactly $$$

[rattlesnake]

15 hours ago, petey123 said:

reading the above comments, it is clear how effective the intensive "western" propaganda machine has been.    this war with its increasing death and destruction can be laid squarely at the feet of the empire of lies and its puppetry.    the nazi-influenced regime had been conducting wholesale slaughter of russians living in the east of that corrupt country since 2014 and v. putin finally decided it had to end.   he had stated late last year that war could be avoided if the empire/puppetry gave up their plan to push nato up to the russian border by inviting ukraine to join and if the latter allowed limited autonomy to its russian-speaking citizens, per the minsk agreement.    the arrogant parties of the "west"  refused to even talk, seeing the ukraine as a means to weaken russia as a potential rival to the empire.    since then the bankrupt empire (31 trillion plus dollars debt) has been hurling billions into the ukraine to keep young ukrainian and russian men dying, cheered on by the corrupt media and the arms merchants.    as an aside, when the west talks about the importance of maintaining  "territorial integrity," it would be good to remember that the empire intensely bombed serbia to enable kosovo to declare its independence and that, today, the empire's troops are garrisoning a significant portion of northeast syria while stealing syrian petroleum....

good on ya Pavloh and kudos to Thailand for not joining the insanity....      

Amen.

[coolcarer]

24 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Amen.

Cough…….????

[dukebowling]

Good for Thailand.  Sensible to stay neutral.  

 

Russia is villified for trying to stabilize its neighbor. They are further justified by the threat of the western funded Biolabs discovered.

 

Referendums confirm what the people want.  The 30% that didn't vote could be considered a no vote because of Ukraine's threat to persecute anyone who votes. This still is a landslide in favor of Russia.  

 

Ukraine was badly divided anyway - West was Nazi aligned, East was Russia aligned.

 

Globalist have to create a fictional story because anywhere there are oil resources, the deep state corruption will follow.

 

[jacko45k]

16 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Yes and no. China unless they have a revolution is intent on eventually taking Taiwan. They were never going to be as reckless and foolish as Putin who has really lost the plot invading Ukraine in the first place. They are very patient. 

Invading Ukraine was more 'in the second place' really, the annexation of The Crimea being move #1.