ZALENSKY has landed in the US

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[ozimoron]

Still in Putin's pocket.

 

"Zelensky is basically an ungrateful international welfare queen," Donald Trump Jr. tweeted Wednesday.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-bash-zelensky-appeal-aid-welfare-queen-1768868

Edited December 21, 2022 by ozimoron

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[Hanaguma]

Ungrateful little turd didn't even have the decency to wear a necktie when meeting the President of the United States. 

 

Interesting timing, as Congress is "debating" an Omnibus spending bill that has an ADDITIONAL $45 billion to fund the war in Ukraine as well.

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[internationalism]

What acronym ZELENSKY in the title of this article means? 
that's another 44 bln military aid, to boost an armament industry in the US. Total this year over 100 bln. 
That, unless republicans will be able somehow stop this payment in 2023. 

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ZALENSKY TO CONGRESS

 

 

[metisdead]

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[Tug]

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Ungrateful little turd didn't even have the decency to wear a necktie when meeting the President of the United States. 

 

Interesting timing, as Congress is "debating" an Omnibus spending bill that has an ADDITIONAL $45 billion to fund the war in Ukraine as well.

Well for an ungrateful little turd as you put it had both sides of United States Congress giving multiple standing ovations meanwhile the evil little dwarf Putin hides in his bunker no sir president Zalinsky has significant historical stature with or without a tie he’s the real deal

[Hanaguma]

1 minute ago, Tug said:

Well for an ungrateful little turd as you put it had both sides of United States Congress giving multiple standing ovations meanwhile the evil little dwarf Putin hides in his bunker no sir president Zalinsky has significant historical stature with or without a tie he’s the real deal

Oh, I don't doubt it. Everyone gets a piece of the Military Industrial Complex pie!    Trying to look like some kind of warrior king when he is just another corrupt autocrat.  No winners here. Putin is a turd, Zelensky too, both need to be flushed from memory.  

 

I can think of a few hundred better uses for $45 billion than p!ssing it away on a proxy war that nobody will win.  Hell that is half the ENTIRE Russian defense budget!

[Rimmer]

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[ozimoron]

According to Leigh Ann Caldwell of The Washington Post, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) urged Clyde to stand for applause during one round of ovation for Zelenskyy — to which Clyde mouthed, "I will not

 

However, as the Ukraine war has progressed, Republicans have become increasingly divided over support for military and humanitarian aid.

 

In particular, loyalists to Donald Trump have begun opposing the aid, and voting against it in both the House and Senate — something that could complicate the passage of further aid when Republicans assume control of the House next year.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/andrew-clyde-ukraine/

 

 

 

[Eric Loh]

Some keyboard warriors here have spoken their piece but what does Americans feel about the war.

 

Majority of Americans (57%) believe that US should continue sending military and financial aid to Ukraine. Only a third (33%) say they think US can’t afford to spend more on the conflict. 82% of respondents perceive Russia is an enemy up significantly from last year. and 76% Americans consider Ukraine an ally. 
 

https://www.voanews.com/a/poll-majority-of-americans-support-continued-aid-for-ukraine/6858460.html

[Phoenix Rising]

9 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Still in Putin's pocket.

 

"Zelensky is basically an ungrateful international welfare queen," Donald Trump Jr. tweeted Wednesday.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-bash-zelensky-appeal-aid-welfare-queen-1768868

Anyone else feel the urge to do something to him that his father should have done repeatedly when he was a kid?

[NickyLouie]

At least the little CIA actor showed up in costume.

 

[Hanaguma]

So far, the Ukraine has received something in the order of $100 billion in aid- roughly half from the US alone, about a third from the EU, the rest from others.  That should be enough to stop Putin- after all it is more money that Russia spends on its entire military.  

 

Time to stop feeding the beast.  The more Zelensky gets, the more he wants and the less likely he is to negotiate a settlement.  

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Ungrateful little turd didn't even have the decency to wear a necktie when meeting the President of the United States. 

 

Interesting timing, as Congress is "debating" an Omnibus spending bill that has an ADDITIONAL $45 billion to fund the war in Ukraine as well.

Zelenskiy is also the President of an independent nation, diplomatically he has equal standing to any other President. 

[Eric Loh]

17 minutes ago, NickyLouie said:

At least the little CIA actor showed up in costume.

 

He was in military fatigues which is typical of him since the start of the war and to remind Congress that his country is still at war. By costume, you probably referring to those superhero NFT animations. 

[Chomper Higgot]

16 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

So far, the Ukraine has received something in the order of $100 billion in aid- roughly half from the US alone, about a third from the EU, the rest from others.  That should be enough to stop Putin- after all it is more money that Russia spends on its entire military.  

 

Time to stop feeding the beast.  The more Zelensky gets, the more he wants and the less likely he is to negotiate a settlement.  

Putin would probably agree.

 

Which brings up an observable truth, ‘supporters of America’s rightwing and the last Republican president take positions which align remarkably close to those supportive of Putin and his illegal war on Ukraine’.

It’s a thing.

 

Edited December 22, 2022 by Chomper Higgot

[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

So far, the Ukraine has received something in the order of $100 billion in aid- roughly half from the US alone, about a third from the EU, the rest from others.  That should be enough to stop Putin- after all it is more money that Russia spends on its entire military.  

 

Time to stop feeding the beast.  The more Zelensky gets, the more he wants and the less likely he is to negotiate a settlement.  

Russia's military budget in 2022 was $75 billion. Its 2023 budget is $84 billion.

 

Ukraine has received around $27 billion in military aid so far. The rest was humanitarian

[Hanaguma]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Putin would probably agree.

 

Which brings up an observable truth, ‘supporters of America’s rightwing and the last Republic president take positions which align remarkably close to those supportive of Putin and his illegal war on Ukraine’.

That is the stock answer, isn't it?  If you don't fall in lockstep with the warmongers, you are a stooge of Putin. And worse, a stooge of Trump.

 

But there is a principled position that rejects both. Ukraine is no free and democratic society.  They poked the bear and the bear got mad.  Biden made it worse by seeming to accept a "minor incursion" into Ukraine. So here we are.  

 

Sorry, but Ukraine isn't worth 7 billion dollars of my country's hard earned taxes.  

[Berkshire]

20 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

So far, the Ukraine has received something in the order of $100 billion in aid- roughly half from the US alone, about a third from the EU, the rest from others.  That should be enough to stop Putin- after all it is more money that Russia spends on its entire military.  

 

Time to stop feeding the beast.  The more Zelensky gets, the more he wants and the less likely he is to negotiate a settlement.  

...."negotiate a settlement."  Seriously?  Who should Zelensky be negotiating with?  Lord knows Putin can't be trusted to keep his word.  Maybe he can negotiate with Victor Bout.  That way he might be able to obtain additional weapons.  

[Hanaguma]

12 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Russia's military budget in 2022 was $75 billion. Its 2023 budget is $84 billion.

 

Ukraine has received around $27 billion in military aid so far. The rest was humanitarian

Really? According to CSIS the US alone has already given 27 billion in direct military aid, plus another 10 billion in peripheral.  Non US at least another 10 billion in direct military aid. Plus, even non military aid helps the military.

 

https://www.csis.org/analysis/aid-ukraine-explained-six-charts

 

It is enough.  More than enough.  Let the two little buggers fight it out.  How much blood and treasure is Zelinsky worth?

Edited December 22, 2022 by Hanaguma

[Chomper Higgot]

13 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

That is the stock answer, isn't it?  If you don't fall in lockstep with the warmongers, you are a stooge of Putin. And worse, a stooge of Trump.

 

But there is a principled position that rejects both. Ukraine is no free and democratic society.  They poked the bear and the bear got mad.  Biden made it worse by seeming to accept a "minor incursion" into Ukraine. So here we are.  

 

Sorry, but Ukraine isn't worth 7 billion dollars of my country's hard earned taxes.  

I came across a very similar argument on RT.

 

“Sorry, but Ukraine isn't worth 7 billion dollars of my country's hard earned taxes.  ”

 

Opinions differ.

 

I personally think it’s a very small amount to pay to keep Putin under control.

 

Far cheaper than appeasement.

 

’Peace in our time’ - Look it up.

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Really? According to CSIS the US alone has already given 27 billion in direct military aid, plus another 10 billion in peripheral.  Non US at least another 10 billion in direct military aid. Plus, even non military aid helps the military.

 

https://www.csis.org/analysis/aid-ukraine-explained-six-charts

 

It is enough.  More than enough.  Let the two little buggers fight it out.  How much blood and treasure is Zelinsky worth?

 

Your previous post was poorly attempting to compare aid to Ukraine with Russia's military budget. Vast difference with the humanitarian aid that is needed and provided.

 

Anyway whats been offered and what its received so far are 2 different things.

 

This from top donor countries not just US:

 

 

https://www.statista.com/chart/27278/military-aid-to-ukraine-by-country/

Edited December 22, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[Hanaguma]

11 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

...."negotiate a settlement."  Seriously?  Who should Zelensky be negotiating with?  Lord knows Putin can't be trusted to keep his word.  Maybe he can negotiate with Victor Bout.  That way he might be able to obtain additional weapons.  

Neither of them can be trusted. But so what. Ain't my business and ain't yours.  Look, how many lives do you think Ukraine is worth?  How many people in YOUR country should go without, so that weapons can be given to Zelinsky?  Each Canadian citizen has given $200 so far, at the behest of our government.  So a family of 4 has lost $800 to this war. Don't you think they could have spent the money better themselves?

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Neither of them can be trusted. But so what. Ain't my business and ain't yours.  Look, how many lives do you think Ukraine is worth?  How many people in YOUR country should go without, so that weapons can be given to Zelinsky?  Each Canadian citizen has given $200 so far, at the behest of our government.  So a family of 4 has lost $800 to this war. Don't you think they could have spent the money better themselves?

Once again, I’ll refer you to the history of appeasing tyrants.

[Hanaguma]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

Your previous post was poorly attempting to compare aid to Ukraine with Russia's military budget. Vast difference with the humanitarian aid that is needed and provided.

 

Anyway whats been offered and what its received so far are 2 different things.

 

This from all countries not just US:

 

 

https://www.statista.com/chart/27278/military-aid-to-ukraine-by-country/

How about just giving each family $800 and asking them how much they want to give to Zelensky? 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

How about just giving each family $800 and asking them how much they want to give to Zelensky? 

Trolling rubbish