On 12/26/2022 at 9:30 AM, proton said:

Eventually, not necessarily from a heart attack

Yes. But nobody has used the term heart attack but you. 

 

Heart failure is the term used. cardiac arrest was also used -- that means heart stopped, nothing more.

2 hours ago, n00dle said:

Because it is a given.

 

Everyone who has ever died, died of heart failure.

No..not if they tested positive for Covid.   Then they died of covid..

5 hours ago, n00dle said:

Because it is a given.

 

Everyone who has ever died, died of heart failure.

That is just being pedantic... must be, I said it earlier. 

And do we have any further details as to why these two relatively young guys dropped, 'sudden heart failure' doesn't really tell us everything, brought on by what?

6 hours ago, n00dle said:

Because it is a given.

 

Everyone who has ever died, died of heart failure.

Not true.

Everyone who has ever died, died when cardiac arrest occurred.

 

Heart failure is when the heart continues to beat but provides insufficient oxygenated blood to the body.

 

"Acute heart failure is a sudden, life-threatening condition in which the heart is unable to do its job. The heart is still beating, but it cannot deliver enough oxygen to meet the body's needs. This condition requires emergency medical care."

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21686-acute-heart-failure

 

 

Edited January 1, 20233 yr by cdemundo

On 12/23/2022 at 9:19 PM, digger70 said:

Heart stops when you die ,so it failed to keep the person alive . Heart Failed ok

When used by physicians the term heart failure does not necessarily indicate death.

Heart failure describes a condition where the heart continues to beat but provides insufficient oxygenated blood to the body.

Chronic heart failure can be a chronic disease where people live for years with the problems it causes.

Acute heart failure is a life-threatening emergency, requiring medical intervention but not necessarily fatal.

 

It isn't pedantic to know what the heck you are talking about, and to restrict your proclamations to those things about which you know something.