snoop1130 35450 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 The ill-fated HTMS Sukhothai set sail into rough seas heading for Chumphon on December 18th without its chief engineer, Vice Admiral Pichai Lorchusakul, commander of the First Naval Area Command, told the media on yesterday (Saturday). He said that the ship normally had a complement of 106, but the chief engineer, who he declined to name, had business to attend to onshore and was not aboard HTMS Sukhothai on December 18th adding. If the chief engineer is absent, his deputy takes charge of overseeing the ship’s engines, he explained. He also said that the captain of the ship, whose name has alsonot been disclosed, will be the person questioned about the loss of the vessel by the Royal Thai Navy’s investigators. Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/chief-engineer-not-on-board-the-ill-fated-sukhothai-navy-vessel/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2023-01-02 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Monthly car subscription with first-class insurance, 24x7 assistance and more in one price - click here to find out more! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebell 22143 Posted January 2 Popular Post Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, snoop1130 said: its chief engineer had a lucky escape. I note the captain was rescued presumably because he had a vest and life raft not a polystyrene box. 1 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elkski 2841 Posted January 2 Popular Post Share Posted January 2 (edited) Still hoping there are survivor's. Why even say that for the poor grieving families? Let's see who is the fall guy. It seems Cha Cha has kept out of this stink. But he was in ultimate charge of all. He should resign and Seems like head of the military needs sacking. And on down Edited January 2 by Elkski 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post internationalism 8285 Posted January 2 Popular Post Share Posted January 2 (edited) "He also said that the captain of the ship, whose name has also not been disclosed" foreign press have disclosed already his name - Lieutenant Colonel Pichitchai Tuannadee. Bangkok Post spells his surname Tuennadee. But certainly it's not easy to find out his name, as it was a military secret. Why his commanders still do so? his fb is https://www.facebook.com/pichitchai.kittyman/ but there is nothing there since this tragedy. Looks, like his was specialising on fb in selling protective talismans. Part of profits were going to charities, underprivileged children and temples. But only part of those profits. That one is from 2.12.22, but there are many more similar posts. https://www.facebook.com/pichitchai.kittyman/posts/pfbid02Mku4kbn7baPUWGKvqSmmTNEXNVnQ3gesbtKwHroWvuA5wwVUVDqP85GHWSsiR9jgl November https://www.facebook.com/pichitchai.kittyman/posts/pfbid0272mPqXzkpZGSByRH3KxvLazuhoBG6L16oGQGKKUj8csE3YteLWNLZfayM5nTPzadl So he was more occupied with spiritual protection, than the real one for him and his subordinates. Possibly he was a religious nut, just looking at this fb page Edited January 2 by internationalism 1 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniggie 944 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, snoop1130 said: He also said that the captain of the ship, whose name has alsonot been disclosed, will be the person questioned about the loss of the vessel by the Royal Thai Navy’s investigators. Really! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra 61233 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Akin to let a passenger plane fly across continent with just the first officer in command, Thailand it's seems can afford it's self to lose a battleship and a bunch of young soldiers and then try sweep everything under the carpet... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pique Dard 1480 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, snoop1130 said: ...the captain of the ship, whose name has also not been disclosed, will be the person questioned... it's obvious, if you ask me! actually the captain should be the very person to be questioned Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brianthainess 10419 Posted January 2 Popular Post Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, snoop1130 said: but the chief engineer, who he declined to name, had business to attend to onshore and was not aboard HTMS Just what business was that, that was so important for a Chief Engineer not to sail with his ship ? restaurant, golf club, or did he know the state of the ship.? 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozfarang 1072 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 A tragedy that should never have happened, but in true Thai fashion NO ONE will be held accountable. Very sad 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seajae 18438 Posted January 2 Popular Post Share Posted January 2 the ship captain should be charged with man slaughter seeing he is solely responsible for the ship and the crew, really have to wonder if his position/rank was paid for seeing he obviously had no idea how to actually captain a ship and ensure it was fully fitted out(life vests/life boats) and in good condition, whatever happened to the captain goes down with the ship or being the last one off it, obviously his position meant he was never in any danger unlike his crew, again we see just how pathetic these supposed leaders are 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lujanit 5490 Posted January 2 Popular Post Share Posted January 2 A coverup has been underway since the ship sank and the men responsible for the death of so many innocent sailors will not be charged. Those in higher places will blame scapegoats. This is the Thai way. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester 12642 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, internationalism said: "He also said that the captain of the ship, whose name has also not been disclosed" foreign press have disclosed already his name - Lieutenant Colonel Pichitchai Tuannadee. Bangkok Post spells his surname Tuennadee. But certainly it's not easy to find out his name, as it was a military secret. Why his commanders still do so? his fb is https://www.facebook.com/pichitchai.kittyman/ but there is nothing there since this tragedy. Looks, like his was specialising on fb in selling protective talismans. Part of profits were going to charities, underprivileged children and temples. But only part of those profits. That one is from 2.12.22, but there are many more similar posts. https://www.facebook.com/pichitchai.kittyman/posts/pfbid02Mku4kbn7baPUWGKvqSmmTNEXNVnQ3gesbtKwHroWvuA5wwVUVDqP85GHWSsiR9jgl November https://www.facebook.com/pichitchai.kittyman/posts/pfbid0272mPqXzkpZGSByRH3KxvLazuhoBG6L16oGQGKKUj8csE3YteLWNLZfayM5nTPzadl So he was more occupied with spiritual protection, than the real one for him and his subordinates. Possibly he was a religious nut, just looking at this fb page I guess the resale value of the talismans he's selling has plummeted since failing miserably to prevent the sinking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal 12881 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, ezzra said: Akin to let a passenger plane fly across continent with just the first officer in command, Thailand it's seems can afford it's self to lose a battleship and a bunch of young soldiers and then try sweep everything under the carpet... The Chief Engineer does not stand watches at sea, neither will his deputy the 2nd Engineer. Day-to-day responsibility for engine room watches at sea falls to 3rd engineer and below. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Taylor 435 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, VocalNeal said: The Chief Engineer does not stand watches at sea, neither will his deputy the 2nd Engineer. Day-to-day responsibility for engine room watches at sea falls to 3rd engineer and below. Some do depends on the vessel and the company. Anyway they are always supposed to be there. They are supposed to be the expert on the maintenance of the ship, that includes structural integrity. I wouldn't really blame the chief. If he had reported the vessel unfit to sail I daresay no one would have listened and he would have been disciplined for making his superiors look bad. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli 59061 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 On 1/2/2023 at 5:48 AM, snoop1130 said: He said that the ship normally had a complement of 106, but the chief engineer, who he declined to name, had business to attend to onshore and was not aboard HTMS Sukhothai on December 18th adding. If the chief engineer is absent, his deputy takes charge of overseeing the ship’s engines, he explained. Maybe he had a premonition.. or knew more. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwaibill 697 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Seems odd that a navy chief engineer would “ have business” that precluded him sailing with his ship. The chief was always on the one ship I sailed aboard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin 1325 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 if it was a scheduled sailing, not an emergency, there should not be any reason why any of the crew were no onboard. They knew the sailing time, so any business should have been resolved beforehand. White wash an cover-up being prepared. The influential and important are taking care to keep out f this. Will the captain be questioned in public hearings or all kept behind closed doors. Are we sure there wasn't a Burmese fishing boat in the area? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks 14608 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) Chief Engineer too busy with his Mia noi that weekend to sail. Mai bpen rai. Edited January 3 by Mr Meeseeks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeymike100 3630 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 On 1/2/2023 at 10:58 AM, lujanit said: A coverup has been underway since the ship sank and the men responsible for the death of so many innocent sailors will not be charged. Those in higher places will blame scapegoats. This is the Thai way. Quite so. The Captain should have been arrested immediately and interrogated? Lets them try and blame a couple of Burmese on this tragedy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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