Monterey Park: Several people shot near Los Angeles - reports

[Bkk Brian]

& another one, in Louisiana

 

Mass shooting inside Baton Rouge club left 12 people injured

https://www.wdsu.com/article/mass-shooting-baton-rouge-club-12-people-injured/42610747

[EVENKEEL]

8 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

No that's what the police called it, from your same article. 

 

The firearm wrested from the suspect was “a magazine-fed semiautomatic assault pistol” that had “an extended large capacity magazine attached to it,” the sheriff said, adding later that he believed the weapon was illegal to own in the state of California.

It was a legal registered gun, that's how they tracked down the shooter. Sounds like an illegal magazine, not an illegal gun.

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

& another one, in Louisiana

 

Mass shooting inside Baton Rouge club left 12 people injured

https://www.wdsu.com/article/mass-shooting-baton-rouge-club-12-people-injured/42610747

"Sorry, this content is not available in your region."

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, EVENKEEL said:

It was a legal registered gun, that's how they tracked down the shooter. Sounds like an illegal magazine, not an illegal gun.

That may well be the case but I was responding to your post:

 

 

As I've already pointed out to you, it was not the article writer but a direct quote from the police, would you rather they did not do that? I'm confused. It was not just the Daily Beast that quoted County Sheriff Robert Luna, multiple other sources did.

 

Luna described the gun seized from the suspect at the Alhambra location as “a magazine-fed semiautomatic assault pistol” with an “extended large capacity magazine.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2023/01/23/heroes-hailed-for-disarming-monterey-park-shooting-suspect-at-second-location

[Bkk Brian]

12 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

"Sorry, this content is not available in your region."

What region are you in?

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/01/22/baton-rouge-shooting-nightclub-suspect/

[Credo]

10 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Really? The "gun lobby" didn't even make the top twenty lobby groups according to this list. 

 

https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/top-spenders

 

The NRA spent about $5 million. By contrast the US Chamber of Commerce and US Association of Realtors EACH spent more than $50 million. 

The gun lobby is more than just the NRA.   

 

[Callmeishmael]

I'm fairly certain that guns are limited to 5 bullet magazines in California.  Which would be more than enough for a hunter or target shooter.

[Scott]

California shooting death toll rises to 11

WATCH: Suspect 'fancied himself' very good at dance

Congresswoman Judy Chu says that the killer was a serious dancer and offered to give free lessons to people.

She said he divorced his wife in 2005 because he had been very critical of her dance moves.

Chu, the former mayor of Monterey Park, spoke to BBC News outside of a victim’s support centre set up at a group home for senior citizens.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-64365251

 

[EVENKEEL]

9 hours ago, Callmeishmael said:

I'm fairly certain that guns are limited to 5 bullet magazines in California.  Which would be more than enough for a hunter or target shooter.

Handguns are limited to 10 rd. magazines in Ca.

 

 

[EVENKEEL]

10 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

That may well be the case but I was responding to your post:

 

 

As I've already pointed out to you, it was not the article writer but a direct quote from the police, would you rather they did not do that? I'm confused. It was not just the Daily Beast that quoted County Sheriff Robert Luna, multiple other sources did.

 

Luna described the gun seized from the suspect at the Alhambra location as “a magazine-fed semiautomatic assault pistol” with an “extended large capacity magazine.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2023/01/23/heroes-hailed-for-disarming-monterey-park-shooting-suspect-at-second-location

I'm not sure why you're making this so difficult, yes I heard Luna give his talk. 

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I'm not sure why you're making this so difficult, yes I heard Luna give his talk. 

Then maybe you also heard him say “I believe the weapon that was recovered at the Alhambra location is not legal to have here in the state of California.”

Edited January 23, 2023 by Bkk Brian

[EVENKEEL]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Then maybe you also heard him say “I believe the weapon that was recovered at the Alhambra location is not legal to have here in the state of California.”

More to come on that statement I'm sure.

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

More to come on that statement I'm sure.

Yes, plenty, it was a:

 

Cobray M11 9mm semi-automatic weapon, which is designed to take 30-round magazines that allow for rapid fire.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/23/us/huu-can-tran-monterey-park-shooting-what-we-know/index.html

 

Image of one here

Another with accessories that can be added:

 

 

 

[Hanaguma]

11 hours ago, Credo said:

The gun lobby is more than just the NRA.   

 

Well, the NRA is not a major player in lobbying according to Open Secrets.  Care to flesh out your assertion a little? The NRA is the constant boogeyman and pales in comparison to Big Pharma or Big Business in lobbying.

[Credo]

3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Well, the NRA is not a major player in lobbying according to Open Secrets.  Care to flesh out your assertion a little? The NRA is the constant boogeyman and pales in comparison to Big Pharma or Big Business in lobbying.

No.  I am just pointing out that the NRA is not alone.   

 

Gun rights groups spent a record $15.8 million on lobbying in 2021 and $2 million in the first quarter of 2022. 

These organizations have invested $190 million in lobbying efforts since 1998. Gun rights advocates spent more than $114 million of that total since 2013.

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2022/05/gun-rights-groups-set-new-lobbying-spending-record-in-2021/

 

[Hanaguma]

1 minute ago, Credo said:

No.  I am just pointing out that the NRA is not alone.   

 

Gun rights groups spent a record $15.8 million on lobbying in 2021 and $2 million in the first quarter of 2022. 

These organizations have invested $190 million in lobbying efforts since 1998. Gun rights advocates spent more than $114 million of that total since 2013.

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2022/05/gun-rights-groups-set-new-lobbying-spending-record-in-2021/

 

Yep, 15 million is a record for gun rights groups. But compare it to other lobbying efforts and it is a drop in the bucket.  The health care lobby spent more than $500 million. Finance spent $450 million.  

 

https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/ranked-sectors

 

So the gun nuts spent 3% of the largest lobby group.  You really think this is a problem?

[JimHuaHin]

22 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Interesting that the shooter was apparently Vietnamese while the victims were presumably Chinese. We will find out the motive soon.

The suspected gunman, Tran Huu Can, appears to be Vietnamese (or he could have been Chinese-Vietnamese).  Two victims' names were released this morning - one had a Vietnamese name the other a Chinese name.  In my experience, some Chinese-Vietnamese have reverted to Chinese names in the West.  We shall probably get more detsials in the coming days.

[KhunLA]

Seems it wasn't random ... as usual.

 

Take away from all these shootings;

... arm yourself

... stop p!ssing people off

 

From 2011 FBI states;

... 12,644 homicides

... 1,481 committed by 'strangers'

 

Highest by relationship (don't p!ss off wife or GH);

... 2700 by acquaintance

... 552 by wife

... 474 by girlfriend

... 269 total by husband & boyfriend combined ????

Women are 3.8X more deadly in relationships ????

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-10

Edited January 24, 2023 by KhunLA

[Stargeezr]

Americans and their guns are like Thais and their amulets.

  Some even try to come into Canada with their USA permit, 

packing pistols. They get a big surprise at the border.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Seems it wasn't random ... as usual.

 

Take away from all these shootings;

... arm yourself

... stop p!ssing people off

 

From 2011 FBI states;

... 12,644 homicides

... 1,481 committed by 'strangers'

 

Highest by relationship (don't p!ss off wife or GH);

... 2700 by acquaintance

... 552 by wife

... 474 by girlfriend

... 269 total by husband & boyfriend combined ????

Women are 3.8X more deadly in relationships ????

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-10

So what you're saying is arm yourselves at all times especially if your with your wife people you know and when you go to a dance hall. Got it.

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.

 

[Bkk Brian]

Video of the brave man disarming the attacker of the assault weapon.

 

 

[Salerno]

On 1/26/2023 at 8:40 PM, Bkk Brian said:

Video of the brave man disarming the attacker of the assault weapon.

Very surreal video; you'd think there would be head butting, eye gauging, boots, hay makers, biting everything under the sun to take him down not just holding him off at arms length and the gunman eventually just walking away. Kudos to Mr Tsay for disarming him.