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This is trolling, the forum is not a cartoon forum, nor is it twitter or Line, if you disagree with a post then either move on or discuss.

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Huh! The OP and the title say nothing about "professionals".

 

It talks about millions of people who are going without food. All of them. Not just the stereotypes you like to select to make you feel better about yourself.

 

20 minutes ago, JayClay said:

Anybody who dismisses the current crises as millions of people suddenly being unable to budget properly, is simply enabling the people responsible.

It's nothing to do with "suddenly". They haven't been saving for years. Perhaps they thought low interest was going to last forever and over borrowed. Well chickens and roosting etc- the good times are gone and those that lived it but without a care for the future will suffer now. Nobody else's fault if they bought a house they can't afford, bought a car that was too expensive, went on too many overseas holidays, etc.

Plenty of people saw the writing on the wall after the 2007 man made financial crisis, plain to see what inventing billions of $ out of nothing was going to create. If I knew inflation was just a matter of time, why didn't they? Perhaps too busy living it up to care.

1 minute ago, JayClay said:

It talks about millions of people who are going without food. All of them. Not just the stereotypes you like to select to make you feel better about yourself.

 

I don't believe it.

You can if you wish. Up to you.

Fifth/sixth richest nation on Earth?

 

You have to wonder who has all the money.

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/dr-simon-duffy/welfare-myth-benefit-fraud_b_2947000.html

 

Edited January 26, 20233 yr by Will B Good

39 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

That explains the government's unpopularity in polls. Got it. And the ambitions of Zelenski has nothing to do with the people of the UK.

And the ambitions of Zelenski has nothing to do with the people of the UK.

 

What ambitions are they? Tell that to the UK population whose majority think otherwise.

45 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Same broad generalizations. 

I'm guessing you graduated in the mid 1990's. Prices have risen considerably since then.

 

 

As has minimum wage. Almost trebled in fact.

11 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Fifth/sixth richest nation on Earth?

 

You have to wonder who has all the money.

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/dr-simon-duffy/welfare-myth-benefit-fraud_b_2947000.html

 

How does that fit into the topic of this thread and what is the reason why you posted that ?

Three pages of stereotypical bar stool philosophy and economics...my oh my.

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I know a few pensioners back in the UK, no income beyond state pension.

They're doing OK, so I can't see how 'professionals' aren't coping.

Probably poor money management skills.

Agree 100%

Is it real or is it just media speil? Would you trust the media to tell you there was nothing bad today in the news or would you expect for them to glorify a side story into a national catastrophe? Views and clicks is dollars!

Edited January 26, 20233 yr by MRToMRT

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

It's a good thing energy costs haven't skyrocketed in the UK. Because in that unlikely event, people might have to choice between death by exposure or death by starvation.

"It's a good thing energy costs haven't skyrocketed in the UK."

But they have, and very drastically too, mostly due to greedy capitalists, making enormous profits while people, particularly the elderly, starving, freezing and dying because of it.

I cannot understand why the UK people are not revolting and protesting in the streets.

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Really? Thanks to the government, In the UK people no longer have to pay for heating? Because that's what "free" means.  

"In the UK people no longer have to pay for heating?" Maybe in some odd cases, but there is an article in the UK newspapers today of an 83 year old lady who died because she could not afford to heat her home.

27 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

How does that fit into the topic of this thread and what is the reason why you posted that ?

Entirely relevant. The amount of wealth a nation generates is X. If the rich 10% get 90% of X, that leaves the other 90% of the population to share 10% of X.

 

14 minutes ago, NoshowJones said:

"It's a good thing energy costs haven't skyrocketed in the UK."

But they have, and very drastically too, mostly due to greedy capitalists, making enormous profits while people, particularly the elderly, starving, freezing and dying because of it.

I cannot understand why the UK people are not revolting and protesting in the streets.

It takes the Brits a while to get to that stage, but eventually they may do so. Took the nurses almost a century after the NHS was created to go on strike, but they got there in the end.

3 hours ago, placeholder said:

You said that heating was "free" in the UK. It was not free. It was subsidized. And even after the subsidies, the cost was still at historically high levels. 

 

Wear more clothes, sleep in a sleeping bag. As long as you keep the house above freezing, no point in wasting more money. When I was a lad there was always ice on the inside of the windows in winter. People have just got soft and spoiled. 

6 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

pretty sure that you could make a tin of beans and half a loaf of wholemeal last for 2 meals - people moaning are probably also the ones covered in tattoos , supping energy drinks and rolling a fag whilst on the ps5 !

Sounds like a great diet; baked beans on bread. Any more of those wonderful ideas stored away?

48 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Three pages of stereotypical bar stool philosophy and economics...my oh my.

Guessing that many of the posters on this forum have worked hard for their retirement, have sometimes (often) been fleeced by a divorce settlement in their home country, and yet have still managed to provide for a "comfortable" later life. It should not be a surprise that they have little sympathy for those who appear incapable of financial self-management.

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Convenience stores charge more for that food, so use the difference to take the bus, OR use a bike and get exercise as well.

That would be OK if you are young to middle aged or live on a regular bus route.

 

If you are older or a pensioner, riding a bicycle is not that safe and bus routes have been cut back everywhere and I are getting very expensive as I understand it.

 

Having said that, many older people do know how to cook proper meals rather than convenience foods.

 

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Plenty of people saw the writing on the wall after the 2007 man made financial crisis........

 

Edited January 26, 20233 yr by Inderpland

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

The Tories undermining of the social good began long before the Ukraine War. 

Very true, but Labour the "party of the working class" are no better.

Don't believe me? How much percentage of the UK population are ordinary working class families, at least 70%? In my adult life time, the Tories have been in office maybe about twice as much as Labour, ask yourself why that is. Wilson, Callaghan, Blair, Brown, all Labour PM's, were any of them for the working class??

They were as much liars and hypocrites as the Tories, perhaps even more so.

At least the Tories never presented themselves as the "part of the working class".

14 minutes ago, bangon04 said:

Guessing that many of the posters on this forum have worked hard for their retirement, have sometimes (often) been fleeced by a divorce settlement in their home country, and yet have still managed to provide for a "comfortable" later life. It should not be a surprise that they have little sympathy for those who appear incapable of financial self-management.

A “comfortable” late life in another country much cheaper than their own ????

Posting bitterly on a forum because they “worked hard” and have been “fleeced” is to what the poor and downtrodden should aspire?

8 hours ago, puchooay said:

Due to laziness, yes.

 

Yesterday I made a chicken casserole for 4 people. Total cost £3.80.

 

Chicken, mushrooms, tomatoes, onions, spinach and red pepper. Served with jacket potatoes. 10 minutes prep, 50 minutes cooking time. 

 

Cheap, wholesome food with minimal fat content. Just a bit of effort needed.

But.. what did they fee the chicken with?

 

But I agree, a lot safer than one of those English breakfasts..

5 hours ago, JayClay said:

The responses in this thread are absolutely disgusting.

 

A bunch of pompous old out of touch retirees making totally incorrect assumptions about the kind of people that are using these services because they can't be bothered to do the slightest bit of research.

 

No, this is not limited to "people with tattoos", and it's not a case of a few chubbas not being able to afford an ice cream after their McDonalds.

 

We're not talking about uneducated, unskilled workers struggling a bit.

 

We're talking about families of paid professionals; teachers, nurses, police and firefighters. People who have studied hard, invested time and money in their education and career so that they could avoid situations like this. Yet for the last 10 years they've had governments impose real-term pay cuts and now with interest rates rising and inflation raging at double-digit levels they are left without enough money to feed and/or heat themselves and thier families.

 

Show a bit of deleted compassion.

I must assume this is meant as a joke, in which case 5 out of 10 for the attempt, otherwise take a serious reality check combined with a hefty degree of honest introspection.

45 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Entirely relevant. The amount of wealth a nation generates is X. If the rich 10% get 90% of X, that leaves the other 90% of the population to share 10% of X.

 

That graph wasn't about that subject though , it was about ..........., well, have a look yourself 

2 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

When her sons ask for snacks she can no longer afford, Aislinn Corey in London, lays down a blanket on the floor and plays “the picnic game.” She takes an apple collected from her preschool’s food bank and slices it in thirds to be shared. “We do it as an activity...so they don’t know that mummy is struggling.” She says dinners are often reduced to “pasta pasta pasta,” and she sometimes skips the meal entirely so there is more food for her children.

You shouldn't be giving your children junk food snacks.

The apple is better for them.

All these sob stories seem to involve single moms.

How many families with 2 working adults are going hungry?

 

The problem is not expensive food.

The problem is single moms!

Edited January 26, 20233 yr by BritManToo

6 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

I must assume this is meant as a joke, in which case 5 out of 10 for the attempt, otherwise take a serious reality check combined with a hefty degree of honest introspection.

Why would you assume it is a joke?

5 hours ago, JayClay said:

The responses in this thread are absolutely disgusting.

 

A bunch of pompous old out of touch retirees making totally incorrect assumptions about the kind of people that are using these services because they can't be bothered to do the slightest bit of research.

 

No, this is not limited to "people with tattoos", and it's not a case of a few chubbas not being able to afford an ice cream after their McDonalds.

 

We're not talking about uneducated, unskilled workers struggling a bit.

 

We're talking about families of paid professionals; teachers, nurses, police and firefighters. People who have studied hard, invested time and money in their education and career so that they could avoid situations like this. Yet for the last 10 years they've had governments impose real-term pay cuts and now with interest rates rising and inflation raging at double-digit levels they are left without enough money to feed and/or heat themselves and thier families.

 

Show a bit of deleted compassion.

I general I agree with your sentiment, but you need to lighten up and realize sarcasm, possibly humor, when you see it?

4 hours ago, Bundooman said:

"Is that bad news"?

 

Fatuous and unnecessary remark - pun intended as well.

Fatuous as the photo looks more American that British. You know, that gluttonous country full of grossly fat people.

Unnecessary, because the USA went through their own crisis of a Depression in the 1930s - so I'm sure you would have sneered at them as you have seen fit to do with the UK.

We have a cr*p government at present - but certainly not as cr*p as the one you've got!

 

A lot of decent, honest people in UK don't deserve your petty comments.

 

UK has like 1/100000000the population and the US does like 25 trillion in GDP, about 1 billion times more than the UK.

 

Plus they TIED England in SOCCER, England's really only "sport."  

 

Plus these "fatties" saved UK from being taken over a billion times and the UK still owe us about 1 zillion dollars for my help.  

 

to say the biggest, strongest, mightiest, all-controlling countries has a worse government...

 

well, that Kool-Aid must taste good.

 

Like I said 10000000000 times, Americans NEVER bring up that little island..........it's always that frozen place with horrible English trying to get in our heads.

 

Now go back to your William and Harry soap opera ..... your only heroes!!!!

 

lol

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Thank you for pointing that out.

Indeed, if British children are going hungry, why are the parents not out demonstrating against any money for Ukraine? Use the "spare money" being spent on war, to pay for children's meals at school.

I have no sympathy for any that don't demonstrate against paying for a war that is IMO nothing to do with Britain.

I am old enough to remember the sacrifices we made to help the Brits in WWII.