Does fact checking matter to your opinions?

[ozimoron]

How likely are you to change your opinion on any matter when you see reasonably argued and credible fact checking indicating that your preconception was false?

 

Edited February 24, 2023 by ozimoron

[LaosLover]

My opinions are a pile of intractable, useless dead wood, mostly. 

 

So any opportunity to off-load one of them is always welcome. 

[userabcd]

If my opinion was accepted as fact then no need to check anything.

[ezzra]

Define credible, many sources now days portray themselves as credible, some for-money others are hoax and many do install confusion and mayhem.

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, userabcd said:

If my opinion was accepted as fact then no need to check anything.

The point of my question was what if your opinion was contested and fact checking provided in support of that dissent?

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, ezzra said:

Define credible, many sources now days portray themselves as credible, some for-money others are hoax and many do install confusion and mayhem.

Widely accepted and not credibly contested.

[LaosLover]

So many strongly held opinions are wholly made up out of thin air. 

 

In the last election, I talked knowingly about Hillary's ground game in Florida.

 

But honestly, I don't really know beyond the broadest of guessing just exactly what ground game is.

 

I have, however, been to Florida.

[mikebike]

I don't think just a fact-check is often enough. A fact check with direction to further reading helps. 

[ozimoron]

Just now, mikebike said:

I don't think just a fact-check is often enough. A fact check with direction to further reading helps. 

That is always a feature of fact checking. To be credible it must be supported.

[Hummin]

Im always willing to change my understanding of a subject or any matter if convincing evidences is present, and I can learn new facts replacing old ones. 

 

Why not?

[save the frogs]

there's a joke by comedian stephen wright. everywhere is walking distance if you have the time.

do you have the time to fact-check everything?

also ... do you believe in 'intuition' ?

 

 

[Hummin]

3 minutes ago, mikebike said:

I don't think just a fact-check is often enough. A fact check with direction to further reading helps. 

A fact check should if of interest lead to further investigations to learn why I was wrong in the first place.

[userabcd]

7 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

The point of my question was what if your opinion was contested and fact checking provided in support of that dissent?

If the fact presented was verified as credible, and by alternative sources, then the opinion would be changed.

Edited February 24, 2023 by userabcd

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

I checked "very likely" only because I'm not a fan of absolutes such as "always" or "never".  

[BritManToo]

I'm the only source worth believing.

No need to fact check me!

[Hummin]

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

there's a joke by comedian stephen wright. everywhere is walking distance if you have the time.

do you have the time to fact-check everything?

also ... do you believe in 'intuition' ?

 

 

Depending on your previous experience and knownledge if you are going to use intuition, but still should investigate things further for your and others sake if based on intuition only. We are easy manipulated.

[ezzra]

13 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Widely accepted and not credibly contested.

Just for starters: 51 Favorite Facts You’ve Always Believed That Are Actually False

 

https://www.rd.com/list/false-facts-everyone-believes/

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, ezzra said:

Just for starters: 51 Favorite Facts You’ve Always Believed That Are Actually False

 

https://www.rd.com/list/false-facts-everyone-believes/

That's a great example fo fact checking. I would change my mind on every one of those notions.

[save the frogs]

11 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Depending on your previous experience and knownledge if you are going to use intuition, but still should investigate things further for your and others sake if based on intuition only. We are easy manipulated.

yes, we are easily manipulated.

sometimes you can tell or suspect by someone's facial expressions that they are lying.

and there's no time to fact-check everything as we are being bombarded with information. 

 

[proton]

who checks the fact checkers?

[VocalNeal]

Humans are emotional beings but rather than change our opinions when confronted with facts why not check the facts before forming an opinion. 

Oh yes this is the internet????

[ozimoron]

Just now, proton said:

who checks the fact checkers?

Fact checkers check fact checkers. Fact checkers can always be contested and in the end facts aren't facts until they are proven.

[Kwasaki]

26 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'm the only source worth believing.

No need to fact check me!

You answered for me. ????

[CharlieH]

Depends entirely on the subject matter and its importance.

[Berkshire]

22 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Just for starters: 51 Favorite Facts You’ve Always Believed That Are Actually False

 

https://www.rd.com/list/false-facts-everyone-believes/

Interesting.  I have no problem changing my mind about such things....if it's grounded in science. 

 

But I think people are much less likely to change their minds about things related to their core beliefs, such as religion or politics.  Especially older people.  

[1FinickyOne]

34 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'm the only source worth believing.

No need to fact check me!

In that case, in addition to the payout period, does solar have any effect on resale value of a home? 

[Hummin]

23 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

yes, we are easily manipulated.

sometimes you can tell or suspect by someone's facial expressions that they are lying.

and there's no time to fact-check everything as we are being bombarded with information. 

 

At least important life changing issues, and also your opinions on things you like to debate with friends and also business partners.

 

When it comes to body language we trust or not, doesnt really mean anything, because those we would like to put our trust in, could be the masters in manipulation.

 

Many here who feel the urge to put all the blaim on all women, knows that for fact. The most gullible innocent woman you ever met, is most likely a dragon camouflaged as a week little pretty princess. Many attractive women knows every button to push to convince a man, as well successful Business men and other actors who use manipulation to become successful. 

 

However truth said, in the moment we can be able to believe anything, and therefor should know better and debrief conversations later, and also discuss with others. 

 

I studied marketing, and the profession is pure manipulating of people to consume more, eat more, drink more, use more vitamins you do not need, and build more,,,,,, with more, as Private hospitals here in Thailand manipulate you to do more check ups than you really do not need unless not feeling good or have health issues from before.

[foreverlomsak]

42 minutes ago, userabcd said:

If the fact presented was verified as credible, and by alternative sources, then the opinion would be changed.

If the fact was presented by the wife, alternative sources are not necessary as they might disagree with her, then your opinion would have to be changed, as you can never be right. 

[BritManToo]

13 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

In that case, in addition to the payout period, does solar have any effect on resale value of a home? 

None! 

[SuperSilverHaze]

Fact check is a tool of the woke. The fact check sites are run by lefties and funded by lefties.

 

I lost what little respect I had for TV AN during covid but the site is still woke. Ever wonder why members / posts drop to nill?

 

Hope the gay and covidiots, hapless Ukraine loser supporters can support the board bc normies, clear eyed people have had enough