Popular Post placeholder Posted February 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Are you aware that 17 year olds can join the USA Army , joining the army where they will be given a gun ? Its not just my opinion that 17 years old are old enough to carry guns, its the USA army's opinion as well Great Point! The U.S. Army just gives them a gun and tells them 'You figure it out". It doesn't provide anything in the way of training. And it doesn't have NCO's to supervise them should they have the misfortune to find themselves in combat. 1 2
ozimoron Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 Just now, placeholder said: Great Point! The U.S. Army just gives them a gun and tells them 'You figure it out". It doesn't provide anything in the way of training. And it doesn't have NCO's to supervise them should they have the misfortune to find themselves in combat. And it lets them roam the streets in a conflict situation armed to the teeth with a gun designed only to kill people. 1
Popular Post LosLobo Posted February 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 27, 2023 25 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Are you aware that 17 year olds can join the USA Army , joining the army where they will be given a gun ? Its not just my opinion that 17 years old are old enough to carry guns, its the USA army's opinion as well The only place a 17 year old in the US Army is given a loaded gun is at the range under strict supervision. 1 2
Mac Mickmanus Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, placeholder said: Great Point! The U.S. Army just gives them a gun and tells them 'You figure it out". It doesn't provide anything in the way of training. And it doesn't have NCO's to supervise them should they have the misfortune to find themselves in combat. Kyle only used the gun in self defence when his life was in danger , that is mature responsible reasonable behaviour , the type of behaviour which shows his age isn't important because he used his gun in a reasonable manner 1 1 1
Popular Post ozimoron Posted February 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 27, 2023 Rittenhouse brandished a gun at a crowd. That's using a gun. Those who intervened to stop him clearly considered he was possibly about to conduct a mass shooting. A bank robber does not need to fire a gun to use it in the course of a bank robbery. 1 1 1
placeholder Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Kyle only used the gun in self defence when his life was in danger , that is mature responsible reasonable behaviour , the type of behaviour which shows his age isn't important because he used his gun in a reasonable manner If, in fact, his life was in danger, then he really didn't have much of a choice, did he? Are you saying it takes maturity to fire a gun in self defense? First you tried on that nonsense about 17 year olds in the armed services and now this? Give it up already. 1 1
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted February 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, placeholder said: If, in fact, his life was in danger, then he really didn't have much of a choice, did he? Are you saying it takes maturity to fire a gun in self defense? First you tried on that nonsense about 17 year olds in the armed services and now this? Give it up already. Good advice, I will give it up Really tired of condescending posts 1 2
Popular Post placeholder Posted February 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 27, 2023 Just now, Mac Mickmanus said: Good advice, I will give it up Really tired of condescending posts A pity. I do so enjoy tearing up your weak arguments. 1 1 1
Mac Mickmanus Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, placeholder said: A pity. I do so enjoy tearing up your weak arguments. All good things come to an end 1
stoner Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 2 hours ago, ozimoron said: Those who intervened to stop him clearly considered he was possibly about to conduct a mass shooting. assumptions not facts.
Mac Mickmanus Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, stoner said: assumptions not facts. Kyle was running away from the rioter when he was attacked , he was running towards the Police when he was kicked to the ground and that is when the shooting began
Popular Post Walker88 Posted February 28, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 28, 2023 On 2/25/2023 at 5:15 PM, Mac Mickmanus said: Well, he wasn't a "nutter" , the "different county" wasn't a long distance from his home and was his local town and he went there to stop an arson attack on a business , rather than to stop a peaceful protest and Kyle was violently attacked by a nutter. The POS rittenhouse is a rancid pile of subhuman filth. He drove several hundred miles with his surrogate penis in order to kill. Don't know where you're from, but how about if some non-law enforcement officer traveled for hours just to walk around like he's a big swinging dick---in civilian clothes no less and with ZERO authority---and all this in a nation where lunatics regularly show up with AR-15s to slaughter innocent people? I suppose you'd say, "Oh this yet-to-start-shaving lad with his AR-15 with its 30 rd mag is probably just a peaceful young man who thinks all the trained police officers in a State need untrained youths from a neighboring State to come give them a hand with the vast majority of peaceful protesters...must have such wonderful parents". Personally, I would think he's the next dylann roof or adam lanza or stephen paddock or robert bowers or any of the other lunatic white mass murderers, and I would either run or try to disarm him. There is a reason cops don't say, "little kids, we could use your help...please get in Mom's car, bring your AR-15, lots of extra mags, and come help us out." GUARANTEED if that mutant scum were Black, the cops would have dumped 100 rds into him. The kid and his interviewer (who enjoys shooting endangered species while being fully protected from harm) are the a waste of air. 1 4
Popular Post Walker88 Posted February 28, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 28, 2023 9 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Kyle was running away from the rioter when he was attacked , he was running towards the Police when he was kicked to the ground and that is when the shooting began A civilian with an AR-15 running toward police in a protest area....what do you think the cops would have done if the little mutant kyle was Black? How about if he was wearing a ghutra? BOOM! Dead by cops. 100% guaranteed. I wonder why the little "hero" didn't drive to Washington on 6 Jan to defend cops and defend democracy? I know why, just as I know why his interviewer didn't. The people chasing him likely thought he was just another adam lanza. If you don't know who adam lanza or robert bowers are then maybe you should use your hands for something other than typing comments. 2 3
SunnyinBangrak Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 53 minutes ago, Walker88 said: The POS rittenhouse is a rancid pile of subhuman filth. He drove several hundred miles with his surrogate penis in order to kill. Apart from your use of profanity, your rant is completely false, off topic and offensive. I wonder what Kyle would make of this thread, seeing liberals defaming and smearing him and gleefully wishing bad stuff to happen to him? I suppose the blame for this disinformation and hysteria would be the likes of biden(1) falsely accusing him of stuff, and the msm running a false narrative(2) which caused the audible shock in court when it turned out Grosskreutz was pointing a gun at Kyle when he got shot, and as the censored conservatives tried to point out he was acting in SELF DEFENCE. (1)https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kyle-rittenhouses-mother-says-biden-defamed-son-suggesting-white-supre-rcna5453 (2)https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/nov/26/jerrold-nadler/nadler-wrong-claim-rittenhouse-crossed-state-line-/ 1 2
Hanaguma Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Walker88 said: The POS rittenhouse is a rancid pile of subhuman filth. He drove several hundred miles with his surrogate penis in order to kill. Don't know where you're from, but how about if some non-law enforcement officer traveled for hours just to walk around like he's a big swinging dick---in civilian clothes no less and with ZERO authority---and all this in a nation where lunatics regularly show up with AR-15s to slaughter innocent people? I suppose you'd say, "Oh this yet-to-start-shaving lad with his AR-15 with its 30 rd mag is probably just a peaceful young man who thinks all the trained police officers in a State need untrained youths from a neighboring State to come give them a hand with the vast majority of peaceful protesters...must have such wonderful parents". Personally, I would think he's the next dylann roof or adam lanza or stephen paddock or robert bowers or any of the other lunatic white mass murderers, and I would either run or try to disarm him. There is a reason cops don't say, "little kids, we could use your help...please get in Mom's car, bring your AR-15, lots of extra mags, and come help us out." GUARANTEED if that mutant scum were Black, the cops would have dumped 100 rds into him. The kid and his interviewer (who enjoys shooting endangered species while being fully protected from harm) are the a waste of air. Wrong on many levels. But don't let the facts get in the way of your vituperation. First, he drove about 10 miles, not "hundreds". He did not bring his weapon, it was already in Kenosha and it was perfectly legal for him to have it. AR-15s are rarely used in crimes. And the "peaceful protestors" did $50 million of damage to the city. Other than that, feel free. 1 2
Mac Mickmanus Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Walker88 said: The POS rittenhouse is a rancid pile of subhuman filth. He drove several hundred miles with his surrogate penis in order to kill. Don't know where you're from, but how about if some non-law enforcement officer traveled for hours just to walk around like he's a big swinging dick---in civilian clothes no less and with ZERO authority---and all this in a nation where lunatics regularly show up with AR-15s to slaughter innocent people? I suppose you'd say, "Oh this yet-to-start-shaving lad with his AR-15 with its 30 rd mag is probably just a peaceful young man who thinks all the trained police officers in a State need untrained youths from a neighboring State to come give them a hand with the vast majority of peaceful protesters...must have such wonderful parents". Personally, I would think he's the next dylann roof or adam lanza or stephen paddock or robert bowers or any of the other lunatic white mass murderers, and I would either run or try to disarm him. There is a reason cops don't say, "little kids, we could use your help...please get in Mom's car, bring your AR-15, lots of extra mags, and come help us out." GUARANTEED if that mutant scum were Black, the cops would have dumped 100 rds into him. The kid and his interviewer (who enjoys shooting endangered species while being fully protected from harm) are the a waste of air. Kyle put his hands up and surrendered to the police and offered his gun to the police and they could have taken it from him if they wanted , he wasn't a threat to the police or anyone else at that time , he had surrendered
Popular Post Walker88 Posted February 28, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Kyle put his hands up and surrendered to the police and offered his gun to the police and they could have taken it from him if they wanted , he wasn't a threat to the police or anyone else at that time , he had surrendered If he was Black, they would have shot the scumbag. He's the coward version of Robert De Niro in Taxi Driver, except it's only the far right lunatics who see him as some sort of folk hero. Had I seen him, I would have assumed he's another Adam Lanza, Robert Bowers, Stephen Paddock, Patrick Crusius, etc. which he probably is. Anyone who thinks he's anything other than a deranged POS is a sick muthaf^kka 2 1
Popular Post Walker88 Posted February 28, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 28, 2023 3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Apart from your use of profanity, your rant is completely false, off topic and offensive. I wonder what Kyle would make of this thread, seeing liberals defaming and smearing him and gleefully wishing bad stuff to happen to him? I suppose the blame for this disinformation and hysteria would be the likes of biden(1) falsely accusing him of stuff, and the msm running a false narrative(2) which caused the audible shock in court when it turned out Grosskreutz was pointing a gun at Kyle when he got shot, and as the censored conservatives tried to point out he was acting in SELF DEFENCE. (1)https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kyle-rittenhouses-mother-says-biden-defamed-son-suggesting-white-supre-rcna5453 (2)https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/nov/26/jerrold-nadler/nadler-wrong-claim-rittenhouse-crossed-state-line-/ What the hell was a child with an AR-15 doing driving across State lines for that? He thinks he's better trained that cops because he plays Call of Duty? Maybe the Crypts from Compton or South Central can drive to the next Nazi or "Stolen Election" or Charlottesville Tiki Torch protest to "help the cops". I bet that would end well. Maybe folks thought he was another Adam Lanza, so THEY are justified pointing a gun at him. Good reason for the punk to stay home and let trained police handle things. He's a sick punk, a child cowardly version of the Robert De Niro character in Taxi Driver. So typical of the Never Served loser son of a Never Served coward (who used to run to the WH bunker when a Code Pink protest was outside the WH) to champion the punk. 2 3
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted February 28, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, Walker88 said: If he was Black, they would have shot the scumbag. He's the coward version of Robert De Niro in Taxi Driver, except it's only the far right lunatics who see him as some sort of folk hero. Had I seen him, I would have assumed he's another Adam Lanza, Robert Bowers, Stephen Paddock, Patrick Crusius, etc. which he probably is. Anyone who thinks he's anything other than a deranged POS is a sick muthaf^kka Well Majoree TG think otherwise and think he is a hero for the Right Wingers. She has introduced a bill to award that deranged sobbing kid the Congressional Gold Medal which is the highest legislative honour. The Right-wingers are celebrating the killing of 2 innocent protesters and shot one other and he became a right wing darling. This is the new era of political violence. Brace yourself for more. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/greene-rittenhouse-congressional-gold-medal/2021/11/24/c09980d2-4d49-11ec-a1b9-9f12bd39487a_story.html 1 2
placnx Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 21 hours ago, placeholder said: 17 years old, a dropout, untrained in policing, Rittenhouse wass certainly doing something wrong by carrying a loaded weapon into a volatile situation. Because of a peculiarity in Wisconsin's law, namely that the gun has to have a barrel less than 16 inches for it to be illegal, he wasn't guilty of committing a crime. That doesn't mean it isn't wrong for an armed minor to have been there. Impunity under state law is a good reason for having federal laws. 2
placnx Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 20 hours ago, placeholder said: Thanks for giving me permission to hold that opinion. And I certainly can't stop you from holding the position that it's OK for a minor to be an armed vigilante, if that's what you believe. But whether you believe it or not, It's obviously nuts. In a volatile situation it's provocative for somebody to show up in body armor with a weapon (as I remember the circumstances).
Popular Post placnx Posted February 28, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 28, 2023 19 hours ago, placeholder said: If, in fact, his life was in danger, then he really didn't have much of a choice, did he? Are you saying it takes maturity to fire a gun in self defense? First you tried on that nonsense about 17 year olds in the armed services and now this? Give it up already. Why didn't this Rittenhouse just stay home? Just let the police and national guard handle it. 5
Mac Mickmanus Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, placnx said: Why didn't this Rittenhouse just stay home? Just let the police and national guard handle it. Do you really not know the answer to that and is that a genuine question ?
Popular Post Tug Posted February 28, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Do you really not know the answer to that and is that a genuine question ? What part of crossing state lines and taking it on oneself to act as a vigilante don’t you understand that behavior cannot and shouldn’t be condoned period all stop the VAST majority of Americans feel (he got away with it) this lionization of this dude is wrong some other idiot will try it not good this stuff should be left to professionals.if one is protecting their home or business that’s different this dude crossed state lines looking for trouble 2 1
Mac Mickmanus Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 Just now, Tug said: What part of crossing state lines and taking it on oneself to act as a vigilante don’t you understand that behavior cannot and shouldn’t be condoned period all stop the VAST majority of Americans feel (he got away with it) this lionization of this dude is wrong some other idiot will try it not good this stuff should be left to professionals.if one is protecting their home or business that’s different this dude crossed state lines looking for trouble Its really no big deal about "crossing state lines" . You make is sound like he left the USA side in Iraq and went into a I.S held Caliphate in Iraq and took them weapons . Crossing "state lines" is really irrelevant and its not against the law to cross state lines and you don't need a passport, visa, or permission or anything . Of course the rioters and protestors side with the deceased and hate Kyle for standing up to them and it causes them concern that the next time they go on a destructive riot, some people may once again stand up to them and shoot them . I can understand their concern 2
Popular Post ozimoron Posted February 28, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 28, 2023 Might as well just defund the police and let teenage vigilantes do the job. You know, smaller government and all that. 1 4
Tug Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Might as well just defund the police and let teenage vigilantes do the job. You know, smaller government and all that. Good one! 1 1
placeholder Posted February 28, 2023 Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, ozimoron said: Might as well just defund the police and let teenage vigilantes do the job. You know, smaller government and all that. And be sure to make them retire when they legally become adults.. 2
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted February 28, 2023 Popular Post Posted February 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Tug said: Good one! Yeah, real clever..... if you can find one person making that argument for you to straw man, feel free to point it out. The protesters were exercising their civil rights (at least until they started causing the $50 million of damage in the town). So was Kyle. He was doing nothing illegal. HE is the victim, not the rioters. 1 1 2
kwonitoy Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 On 2/27/2023 at 4:42 AM, Mac Mickmanus said: Are you aware that 17 year olds can join the USA Army , joining the army where they will be given a gun ? Its not just my opinion that 17 years old are old enough to carry guns, its the USA army's opinion as well And if a 17 year old joins the Army he will receive the proper training and supervision on how to safely handle his rifle
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