2 hours ago, Baht Simpson said:

Berg? Lol. Good luck with that.  

yeah, good luck with your nonsense.

for years "your team" has been telling people to avoid the sun and use sunscreen.

and skin cancer rates are going up. 

None. Look up the ingredients of your sunscreen and realize the true reason why people are getting so much skin cancer after staying in sunny regions for a longer time. It is not the sun itself, it is the cytotoxic ingredients they put on their permeable skin.

16 hours ago, save the frogs said:

thanks, but I will take advice from Eric Berg on this one.

Harvard is "mainstream", and the mainstream has perpetuated the simplistic "sun causes cancer" mantra, so you need to block out the sun.

 

- melanoma has increased 3000% since 1970

- 75% of melanomas occur in areas on the body which are rarely exposed to the sun

- people are getting less sun than in the past

- Sun screens have carcinogens

- Sun screens block Vitamin D production on the skin

- Vitamin D from sun exposure protects you from cancer

- people with melanoma often have Vitamin D deficiency

 

So based on these facts, it can be assumed that the sun is not the main cause of this increase in melanoma.

 

- Avoid sunscreen

- Get moderate amount of sun, but avoid sunburn.

- The benefits of Vitamin D from the sun outweigh risks of cancer.

 

 

Awesome post. All is being said there. Thank you for that one.

17 hours ago, Baht Simpson said:

This article from Harvard might help.

 

https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/6-things-you-should-know-about-vitamin-d

 

"Use of sunscreen. Sunscreen prevents sunburn by blocking UVB light. Theoretically, that means sunscreen use lowers vitamin D levels. But as a practical matter, very few people put on enough sunscreen to block all UVB light, or they use sunscreen irregularly, so sunscreen's effects on vitamin D might not be that important. An Australian study that's often cited showed no difference in vitamin D between adults randomly assigned to use sunscreen one summer and those assigned a placebo cream."

 

You don't need a lot of sun exposure to get Vitamin D.
https://fastrt.nilu.no/VitD_quartMEDandMED_v2.html

"Thinksport" SPF 50 Sunscreen.

 

Zinc Oxide 20% (non-nano).

 

Read up on the subject plus user reviews - this seemed the best for multiple reasons.

"Thailand’s UV Index Rating and the Risk of Sunburn"

https://www.samitivejhospitals.com/article/detail/uv-index

11 minutes ago, JimmyJ said:

"Thinksport" SPF 50 Sunscreen.

 

Zinc Oxide 20% (non-nano).

 

Read up on the subject plus user reviews - this seemed the best for multiple reasons.

Also - Responding to complaints of other sunscreens mentioned in the thread:

 

Pretty much scent free;

IMO not an oily/greasy feeling once applied/rubbed in.

 

This is one of the items I stock up on when visiting USA. 

What lube do you use and why?

19 hours ago, save the frogs said:

yeah, good luck with your nonsense.

for years "your team" has been telling people to avoid the sun and use sunscreen.

and skin cancer rates are going up. 

I don't have a "team". I just have a personal opinion. Don't project other people's views on me.

 

It doesn't make sense anyway.  I'm not telling people to avoid the sun. If I did there wouldn't be any need for sunscreen would there?

I use water.  I want to be black.