Single Phase Electric On Samui

[adamskisamui]

Can anyone help me and tell me what is the maxium in Amps i can get from a single phase line on Samui. I have heard some conflicting stories. Im building a new house and need around 70 amps from a single phase if i cannot do this i need to get three phase right ??

[Pilchard]

Can anyone help me and tell me what is the maxium in Amps i can get from a single phase line on Samui. I have heard some conflicting stories. Im building a new house and need around 70 amps from a single phase if i cannot do this i need to get three phase right ??

One hel of a washing machine thats going to draw 70 amps. You sure you have that right ?

There are some profesional electricians in th "Real estate housing house and land" forum, I've received some very sound advice from there before. Might be worth posting in there as well.

PS the max on 3 phase domestic / light industrial is 100 amps, that's enough to run a fair size apartment block.

[Naam]

PS the max on 3 phase domestic / light industrial is 100 amps, that's enough to run a fair size apartment block.

hmmm... i have a 3-phase 3x30amp connection and if all my aircons would run simultaneously they'd draw 82 amps. and no... i don't live in apartment block but in a single family home

[Naam]

Can anyone help me and tell me what is the maxium in Amps i can get from a single phase line on Samui. I have heard some conflicting stories. Im building a new house and need around 70 amps from a single phase if i cannot do this i need to get three phase right ??

i don't know the setup in Samui but in Pattaya you can get maximum 30 amps with a single phase connection. however -according to the electrical department- you can overload that connection 80% continously and 120% for a short time.

[Pilchard]

PS the max on 3 phase domestic / light industrial is 100 amps, that's enough to run a fair size apartment block.

hmmm... i have a 3-phase 3x30amp connection and if all my aircons would run simultaneously they'd draw 82 amps. and no... i don't live in apartment block but in a single family home

Sorry , does the size of your house make my statement untrue ?

Edited July 4, 2007 by Pilchard

[lazeeboy]

PS the max on 3 phase domestic / light industrial is 100 amps, that's enough to run a fair size apartment block.

hmmm... i have a 3-phase 3x30amp connection and if all my aircons would run simultaneously they'd draw 82 amps. and no... i don't live in apartment block but in a single family home

Sorry , does the size of your house make my statement untrue ?

single phase will run normal house holds unless you're running a swimming pool then you need 3 phase .......

[Naam]

PS the max on 3 phase domestic / light industrial is 100 amps, that's enough to run a fair size apartment block.

hmmm... i have a 3-phase 3x30amp connection and if all my aircons would run simultaneously they'd draw 82 amps. and no... i don't live in apartment block but in a single family home

Sorry , does the size of your house make my statement untrue ?

it doesn't make it "untrue" but i would call it highly exaggerated

[Naam]

single phase will run normal house holds unless you're running a swimming pool then you need 3 phase .......

why that? i have never encountered a pool pump (for a private pool) that needs a 3-phase connection.

[Pilchard]

PS the max on 3 phase domestic / light industrial is 100 amps, that's enough to run a fair size apartment block.

hmmm... i have a 3-phase 3x30amp connection and if all my aircons would run simultaneously they'd draw 82 amps. and no... i don't live in apartment block but in a single family home

Sorry , does the size of your house make my statement untrue ?

it doesn't make it "untrue" but i would call it highly exaggerated

Perhaps you missed the thrust of my point, I shall endeavour to clarify.

Would you agree the following is true (not talking condos here, us country folk are barely out of bamboo huts) ?

"The max on 3 phase domestic / light industrial is 100 amps, that's enough to run a fair size apartment block"

And if so can you explain what it has to do with the size of your ( You ,Dr Naams residence ) house.

thanks

Edited July 5, 2007 by Pilchard

[Naam]

the discussion is pointless Pilchard unless you define your understanding of an "apartment block". there are blocks with a handfull of units and there are blocks with hundreds of units.

in Europe (Germany) the common supply for a newly built 3-bedroom flat is normally 3-phase each 15 amps; older flats have only a single phase connection with 30 amps. the average single family home is served by a 3-phase connection, each phase 30 amps but prudent home owners plan a connection with 3x60 amps.

now... if we talk about "apartment blocks" in Thailand one has to assume that each apartment has three aircons which draw each ~5 amps = 15 amps per apartment. add to this fridge/freezer, lighting, hot water and other consumers you land up with a total load of minimum 25 amps, i.e. the "apartment block" you are talking about has four units.

[Pilchard]

the discussion is pointless Pilchard unless you define your understanding of an "apartment block". there are blocks with a handfull of units and there are blocks with hundreds of units.

in Europe (Germany) the common supply for a newly built 3-bedroom flat is normally 3-phase each 15 amps; older flats have only a single phase connection with 30 amps. the average single family home is served by a 3-phase connection, each phase 30 amps but prudent home owners plan a connection with 3x60 amps.

now... if we talk about "apartment blocks" in Thailand one has to assume that each apartment has three aircons which draw each ~5 amps = 15 amps per apartment. add to this fridge/freezer, lighting, hot water and other consumers you land up with a total load of minimum 25 amps, i.e. the "apartment block" you are talking about has four units.

You were casting doubt on my statement that "the max on 3 phase domestic / light industrial is 100 amps, that's enough to run a fair size apartment block" by compairing it to the single phase set up in your home. Apple and Oranges , cant be done.

This is not the DIN electrical forum of Berlin so lets assume we are in Thailand. Smaui has no completed Condo's so lets say 3 shop houses with 3 floors turned into a guest house. 100 amp 3 phase will and does run the air and the tellies and the mini fridges.

Come and have a look next time you in Samui, i'll show you

[BigC]

the discussion is pointless Pilchard unless you define your understanding of an "apartment block". there are blocks with a handfull of units and there are blocks with hundreds of units.

in Europe (Germany) the common supply for a newly built 3-bedroom flat is normally 3-phase each 15 amps; older flats have only a single phase connection with 30 amps. the average single family home is served by a 3-phase connection, each phase 30 amps but prudent home owners plan a connection with 3x60 amps.

now... if we talk about "apartment blocks" in Thailand one has to assume that each apartment has three aircons which draw each ~5 amps = 15 amps per apartment. add to this fridge/freezer, lighting, hot water and other consumers you land up with a total load of minimum 25 amps, i.e. the "apartment block" you are talking about has four units.

this bloke knows his electric he lives on a star ship

[Naam]

"this bloke knows his electric he lives on a star ship"

:D

[Naam]

name='Pilchard' date='2007-07-05 10:43:09' post='1400593'

You were casting doubt on my statement that "the max on 3 phase domestic / light industrial is 100 amps, that's enough to run a fair size apartment block" by compairing it to the single phase set up in your home. Apple and Oranges , cant be done.

-today we have learned that a "fair sized apartment block" consists of three shop houses turned into a guest house

-what "we" still have to learn (by reading) is that my home (the one in Thailand) has not a single phase but a three phase connection (each phase 30 amps) and that is what i need to run all my appliances

-what we have to accept is the demand of the original poster who thinks he needs an 80 amp connection with a single phase supply. whether we like his demand or not is besides the point. his question was whether he can get that. my answer was that i have doubts but in amazing Thailand it might be possible good luck to him!

[Mid]

follow this with 1/2 an eye ,

i have upgraded from a 15 to a 30 amp meter and still can not get enough juice to run my computer reliably..???

[Pilchard]

name='Pilchard' date='2007-07-05 10:43:09' post='1400593'

You were casting doubt on my statement that "the max on 3 phase domestic / light industrial is 100 amps, that's enough to run a fair size apartment block" by compairing it to the single phase set up in your home. Apple and Oranges , cant be done.

-today we have learned that a "fair sized apartment block" consists of three shop houses turned into a guest house

-what "we" still have to learn (by reading) is that my home (the one in Thailand) has not a single phase but a three phase connection (each phase 30 amps) and that is what i need to run all my appliances

-what we have to accept is the demand of the original poster who thinks he needs an 80 amp connection with a single phase supply. whether we like his demand or not is besides the point. his question was whether he can get that. my answer was that i have doubts but in amazing Thailand it might be possible good luck to him!

It wasn’t me who brought Germany into it , but hey apology accepted

[Naam]

... but hey apology accepted

apology? does that mean my wife is right when she claims my english is quite bad and can be misunderstood?

[elkangorito]

single phase will run normal house holds unless you're running a swimming pool then you need 3 phase .......

[Naam]

single phase will run normal house holds unless you're running a swimming pool then you need 3 phase .......

actually a swimming pool needs four phases. one for each side. if not then the phases are not balanced (which is quite dangerous). if you have a round or oval pool you don't need any phase and it's quite safe to swim in it plus it saves electricity cost!

BUT... mind you! a common pool is filled with water which contains dangerous bacteria and viruses. better to fill up your pool with refrigerant. i think this is standard in UK nowadays.

edited because of misleading tchörmann krammer

Edited July 5, 2007 by Dr. Naam

[elkangorito]

single phase will run normal house holds unless you're running a swimming pool then you need 3 phase .......

actually a swimming pool needs four phases. one for each side. if not then the phases are not balanced (which is quite dangerous). if you have a round or oval pool you don't need any phase and it's quite safe to swim in it plus it saves electricity cost!

BUT... mind you! a common pool is filled with water which contains dangerous bacteria and viruses. better to fill up your pool with refrigerant. i think this is standard in UK nowadays.

edited because of misleading tchörmann krammer

[elkangorito]

single phase will run normal house holds unless you're running a swimming pool then you need 3 phase .......

actually a swimming pool needs four phases. one for each side. if not then the phases are not balanced (which is quite dangerous). if you have a round or oval pool you don't need any phase and it's quite safe to swim in it plus it saves electricity cost!

BUT... mind you! a common pool is filled with water which contains dangerous bacteria and viruses. better to fill up your pool with refrigerant. i think this is standard in UK nowadays.

edited because of misleading tchörmann krammer

[adamskisamui]

Thanks for your replys

Im just finishing the inside of the house at the moment so electric is going to be by next issue so as im not experienced in electrical issues i had no idea what Ampage i would get from a single phase but 30 Amps is not enough for sure. Im going to be buying four aircon units,four water heaters a pump for water and in the next six months i will be adding a swimming pool so another pump plus all the domestic things. Ok so now i know i will need 3 phase next question is does anyone have a rough estimate on cost ?? for taking in a 3 phase supply to my house which is about 80 metres from main road 3 phase. another question is ?? I have a few neibours who are running on single phase if i put the 3 phase supply can they use this or is this specically for me the reason i ask this is simply if i pay the money to get the 3 phase in it would be unfair for them to get this for free is there anyway round this ???