webfact Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 PHOTO: Thairath Online By Tanakorn Panyadee The levels of carcinogenic particulate matter 2.5 micrometers (PM2.5) in Thailand’s Chiang Mai province has been deemed the worst in the world as of yesterday morning, March 29th. The Command Center for Preventing and Resolving Forest Fire Problems, Smog and PM2.5 Fine Dust of Chiang Mai reported yesterday morning that 334 hotspots have been discovered in 25 districts across the province. The most effected areas are Chiang Dao district with 65 hotspots, Chai Prakan with 35, Mae Ai with 32, Samoeng with 30, and Fang with 27. These districts are mostly in the northern part of Chiang Mai. The cumulative hotspots range from January 1st, 2023 to the present total of over 5,867 spots, with 2,322 hotspots found in March alone. Full story: https://thepattayanews.com/2023/03/30/chiang-mais-air-ranks-worst-globally-several-days-this-week/ -- © Copyright The Pattaya News 2023-03-31 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. The most versatile and flexible rental investment and holiday home solution in Thailand - click for more information. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nglodnig Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Yipee! Chiang Mai Number One! Way to go! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Northstar1 Posted March 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2023 Great retirement destination! 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Northstar1 said: Great retirement destination! Street food with extra flavor! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 The air in Chiang Mai is most definitely chewy not too tasty though. Most days the warning is "hazardous"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BKKKevin Posted March 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2023 Chiang Mai is the new hub of 2.5 particular Matter 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted March 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 hours ago, webfact said: The levels of carcinogenic particulate matter 2.5 micrometers (PM2.5) in Thailand’s Chiang Mai province has been deemed the worst in the world as of yesterday morning, March 29th. Something in any other country would have the governor removed. But this is Thailand and ecceptable by those above. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Northstar1 said: Great retirement destination! Not, along with Phuket, Pattaya or Samui. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post koolkarl Posted March 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2023 I sincerely hope this becomes headline news around the world, for a very long time, so that not a single tourist would come here ever again and that these useless politicians get serious cancer from this incessant burning and smog. The Thai people are simply too docile. As for me, plans are being made to relocate as soon as my contract is fulfilled. 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tarteso Posted March 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2023 4 hours ago, webfact said: The Command Center for Preventing and Resolving Forest Fire Problems, The JOKE.. The name of this center. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post andersonat Posted March 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2023 Has anyone heard of any Local, Provincial, or National Politician recently discussing possible ameliorations/solutions to this annual-problem ? [ - I *haven't* ] -- This is a public-health disaster, and it seems that the people in CM are expected to sit-tight, and wait for the winds to come and blow the smoke away.. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarteso Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, andersonat said: and wait for the winds to come and blow the smoke away.. They need the rain more than wind..which is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sqwakvfr Posted March 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2023 The negative consequences of this will not be realized for years. This is because when children are exposed this horrible air their underdeveloped lungs and respiratory system cannot handle it. Cases of asthma for young people could spike in the coming years. Inhalers will be high demand. Is the Ministry of Health planning for this? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post delgarcon Posted March 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2023 3 hours ago, koolkarl said: I sincerely hope this becomes headline news around the world, for a very long time, so that not a single tourist would come here ever again and that these useless politicians get serious cancer from this incessant burning and smog. The Thai people are simply too docile. As for me, plans are being made to relocate as soon as my contract is fulfilled. The BBC online has this report on its front page. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-65120502 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 7 hours ago, webfact said: Thailand’s Chiang Mai province has been deemed the worst in the world as of yesterday morning, March 29th. Man that is another sad fact for Chiang Mai & there is no way to white wash it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, webfact said: The levels of carcinogenic particulate matter Which particles are carcinogenic???? The levels of sensationalism in the media is getting worst than in the tabloid newspaper days. Another confusion for the uninitiated is the possible confusion in Thailand that the name of the provincial capital and the province is often the same. Edited March 31, 2023 by VocalNeal 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi49jr Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) This is the PM10 count today in northern Thailand. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it this bad. And Dear Leader said he was going to put a stop to this…. Edited March 31, 2023 by rudi49jr 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chaila Posted March 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2023 20 minutes ago, rudi49jr said: This is the PM10 count today in northern Thailand. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it this bad. And Dear Leader said he was going to put a stop to this…. He was going to solve it in seven days , but something came up 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post andersonat Posted March 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 11:16 AM, VocalNeal said: Which particles are carcinogenic???? The levels of sensationalism in the media is getting worst than in the tabloid newspaper days. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5920433/ "Previous studies have identified a marked association between particulate matter 2.5 (PM2.5) exposure and increased incidence of pulmonary diseases (1). ... PM2.5 comprises a mixture of solid and liquid particles, including black carbon, metals, nitrate, sulfate, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons and automobile exhaust particles (4). It has also been indicated that PM2.5 may trigger asthma, chronic obstructive lung disease (COPD) and lung cancer through the activation of various signaling pathways, ... A European cohort study indicated that PM2.5 exposure increased the risk of lung cancer, particularly lung adenocarcinoma (12). .. " *** https://oem.bmj.com/content/61/10/799 "While many uncertainties remain, it appears plausible that known chemical carcinogens are responsible for the lung cancers attributed to PM2.5 exposure in the extended ACS Cohort Study. However, the possibility should not be ruled out that particulate matter is capable of causing lung cancer independent of the presence of known carcinogens. ... " *** https://www.esmo.org/newsroom/press-releases/scientists-discover-how-air-pollution-may-trigger-lung-cancer-in-never-smokers "A new mechanism has been identified through which very small pollutant particles in the air may trigger lung cancer in people who have never smoked, paving the way to new prevention approaches and development of therapies, according to late-breaking data [to be] reported at the ESMO Congress 2022 by scientists of the Francis Crick Institute and University College London, funded by Cancer Research UK (1). The particles, which are typically found in vehicle exhaust and smoke from fossil fuels, are associated with non-small cell lung cancer (NSCLC) risk, accounting for over 250,000 lung cancer deaths globally per year (2,3)." 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Northstar1 Posted March 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2023 3 hours ago, rudi49jr said: This is the PM10 count today in northern Thailand. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it this bad. And Dear Leader said he was going to put a stop to this…. Sure glad I got the hell out of there and never made the mistake of buying 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi49jr Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Northstar1 said: Sure glad I got the hell out of there and never made the mistake of buying Me too. Spent a few very good winters in Chiang Mai in the eighties and nineties, and even planned to retire there. Then came back twice, in the winters of 2007/2008 and 2011/2012, and got bronchitis both times. Needless to say I haven’t been back since. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Northstar1 Posted March 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2023 3 hours ago, rudi49jr said: Me too. Spent a few very good winters in Chiang Mai in the eighties and nineties, and even planned to retire there. Then came back twice, in the winters of 2007/2008 and 2011/2012, and got bronchitis both times. Needless to say I haven’t been back since. Myself and several friends developed health issues from the pollution, and my doctor told me to get out ASAP! simply not worth it. too many places to retire. Don’t understand the draw of Chang nobyl!????????♂️????????♂️???? 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Northstar1 said: my doctor told me to get out ASAP! I assume you have an underlying health condition that prompted your doctor's statement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, scottiejohn said: I assume you have an underlying health condition that prompted your doctor's statement! Not necessarily ....I could imagine a lot of doctors saying get out...why not? If you can? Then why put this kind of filth thru your body ? Edited March 31, 2023 by mania 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Northstar1 Posted April 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2023 18 hours ago, scottiejohn said: I assume you have an underlying health condition that prompted your doctor's statement! No, perfectly healthy, but coughing and sinus infections were the early warning. didn’t wait for anything more serious, which by the way was coming! im too intelligent to wait! why would I or anyone for that matter? wearing a mask, and spending my time indoors with air purifiers wasn’t my retirement dream! I didn’t work hard all my life for that! is that your retirement dream? I feel sorry for you! ????????????♂️ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scottiejohn Posted April 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Northstar1 said: I feel sorry for you! Thanks but there is no need! I love CM. It is my retirement dream, with my long term partner, and we will not be scared away by comments like yours! Edited April 1, 2023 by scottiejohn 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SoilSpoil Posted April 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2023 42 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: Thanks but there is no need! I love CM. It is my retirement dream, with my long term partner, and we will not be scared away by comments like yours! Your retirement dream is to live in the most polluted city on earth? I can imagine that people cannot just easily relocate, because of business, work or schooling, but to claim that CM is your retirement dream is rather bizarre. 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, SoilSpoil said: Your retirement dream is to live in the most polluted city on earth? I can imagine that people cannot just easily relocate, because of business, work or schooling, but to claim that CM is your retirement dream is rather bizarre. You can be as alarmist as you want! I don't care! I love it here and will continue to ignore the exaggerations of you and your ilk! Enjoy your new home! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SoilSpoil Posted April 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: You can be as alarmist as you want! I don't care! I love it here and will continue to ignore the exaggerations of you and your ilk! Enjoy your new home! What exaggerations? Are you even aware of the pm2.5 health crisis in Thailand? Darwins Award cones to mind 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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