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Though I don't agree with Mr Toad's contribution, I've always assumed the Id comes from Wind in the Willows, which may just prove my naivety.

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I was referring to 'bangkoksingapore' not mr toad

Oops now I'm naive and need glasses, apologies all round.

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PS I was disagreeing with bangkoksingapore.... I'll go and lie down now.

Apology accepted. :o

Just to confirm, mrtoad is from The Wind in the Willows.

I'd still like to know what happened on this case. I will assume that the BIB's have 'wrapped' this case up so well, that no one is going to hear anything about it. Very sad.

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Hey Mr Toad

We can keep it alive by popping up in this forum and occasionally asking 'what's happening' - otherwise, you're right, it will dissappear -- and before you know it this little sh+t and his pr+ck father will be launching their own political party to run in the next election!

Oh look, Chalerm and his sons have done just that - what a coincidence. No correlation intended.

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Go to the police station and ask them what's happening then.

:D Excuse me kuntstable, what happened to <deleted>?

:D He was allowed to walk free, sir.

:D Really? Why?

:D TiT, sir. By the way, your visa has expired!!

:o

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A few months ago, I was invited by good Thai friends to go on a week-long fishing trip at a resort owned by a tourist-killer Kanchanaburi policeman. :D I kid you not. If he's there or not, I don't know, but I can assure you I had second thoughts...about how to tell these friends that I can not go there. :o

Heavily populated country but still rather small. These people can't really hide.

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Go to the police station and ask them what's happening then.

:D Excuse me kuntstable, what happened to <deleted>?

:D He was allowed to walk free, sir.

:D Really? Why?

:D TiT, sir. By the way, your visa has expired!!

:o

Or you could just ask the police like was suggested, are you incapable of completing such a medial chore?

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I'm still surprised he wasn't beaten to death by an angry mob as is so common in Thailand, even in Bangkok. :D

in Indonesia and the Philippines he would not have survived, thats 100% sure...... sometimes, the Thai people are too polite..... :o

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For this to be forgotten the witnesses and victims will all be paid off - probably not the police. I read with amusement as farangs offered finacial assistance pay for for legal aid to some of the victims when this happened, unfortunately not as much as the spoiled kid and his dad could offer. This is how it works here. 65% of Thais surveyed recently are still perfectly happy to take money under the table for their vote in the upcoming election.

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A few months ago, I was invited by good Thai friends to go on a week-long fishing trip at a resort owned by a tourist-killer Kanchanaburi policeman. :D I kid you not. If he's there or not, I don't know, but I can assure you I had second thoughts...about how to tell these friends that I can not go there. :o

Heavily populated country but still rather small. These people can't really hide.

Perhaps we can have a catch-all category for follow-ups to various extreme crimes. As regards the Kanchanaburi cop who murdered the young Brit couple, I strongly suspected he's been out for awhile, but have heard nothing substantial.

Am also curious about the 3 off-duty cops, one of whom hacked off a young woman's arm on a motorbike tussle from hel_l. For sure there were pay-offs and hush money, but I'd still like to know whether the cops got seriously disciplined, or just directed to 'inactive posts.' ....or less?!

Thais have the memory capacity of goldfish. (a recent scientific study says goldfish have a memory retention of 3 minutes).

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A few months ago, I was invited by good Thai friends to go on a week-long fishing trip at a resort owned by a tourist-killer Kanchanaburi policeman. :D I kid you not. If he's there or not, I don't know, but I can assure you I had second thoughts...about how to tell these friends that I can not go there. :o

Heavily populated country but still rather small. These people can't really hide.

Perhaps we can have a catch-all category for follow-ups to various extreme crimes. As regards the Kanchanaburi cop who murdered the young Brit couple, I strongly suspected he's been out for awhile, but have heard nothing substantial.

Am also curious about the 3 off-duty cops, one of whom hacked off a young woman's arm on a motorbike tussle from hel_l. For sure there were pay-offs and hush money, but I'd still like to know whether the cops got seriously disciplined, or just directed to 'inactive posts.' ....or less?!

Thais have the memory capacity of goldfish. (a recent scientific study says goldfish have a memory retention of 3 minutes).

How do you explain the fact that they still haven't forgiven the Burmese for sacking Ayutthya then? That's a bit longer than 3 mins, if I'm not v. much mistaken. :D

Maybe it's just more selective memory over things the average person feels they have absolute no influence over or impact from. Or its still the same old "keep ones head below the battlement" mentality which is common to many societies, plus the poor teaching of and sense of history prevalent in Thailand, evidenced by the recent furore over the schoolkids in Nazi uniform parade.

Tony Clifton, perhaps you could do a great public service and mention the name of killer cop's resort. Don't want to give it undue publicity, but if anyone reading this happened to be going to Kan for the w/end, it would help them know where to avoid. You might even save them some serious aggro if he's out of the clanger. :D

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They all have an excuse, which the parents seem to know about, but only deem fit to tell everyone after the problem comes to light. I would request a gazillion baht as compensation or they would all have to swing. I would ask so much that Toxin could not pay. Then they have to go to the monkey house.

I bet that even their should be voided insurance will pay up.

To me, it is the same as them giving him a loaded weapon and then complaining when he shot someone at a bus stop.

He should be sent to see buddah all right, very swiftly at the end of a rope.

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A few months ago, I was invited by good Thai friends to go on a week-long fishing trip at a resort owned by a tourist-killer Kanchanaburi policeman. :D I kid you not. If he's there or not, I don't know, but I can assure you I had second thoughts...about how to tell these friends that I can not go there. :o

Heavily populated country but still rather small. These people can't really hide.

Perhaps we can have a catch-all category for follow-ups to various extreme crimes. As regards the Kanchanaburi cop who murdered the young Brit couple, I strongly suspected he's been out for awhile, but have heard nothing substantial.

Am also curious about the 3 off-duty cops, one of whom hacked off a young woman's arm on a motorbike tussle from hel_l. For sure there were pay-offs and hush money, but I'd still like to know whether the cops got seriously disciplined, or just directed to 'inactive posts.' ....or less?!

Thais have the memory capacity of goldfish. (a recent scientific study says goldfish have a memory retention of 3 minutes).

How do you explain the fact that they still haven't forgiven the Burmese for sacking Ayutthya then? That's a bit longer than 3 mins, if I'm not v. much mistaken. :D

Maybe it's just more selective memory over things the average person feels they have absolute no influence over or impact from. Or its still the same old "keep ones head below the battlement" mentality which is common to many societies, plus the poor teaching of and sense of history prevalent in Thailand, evidenced by the recent furore over the schoolkids in Nazi uniform parade.

Tony Clifton, perhaps you could do a great public service and mention the name of killer cop's resort. Don't want to give it undue publicity, but if anyone reading this happened to be going to Kan for the w/end, it would help them know where to avoid. You might even save them some serious aggro if he's out of the clanger. :D

And maybe draw even more aggravation onto myself? :D

If he is indeed prematurely out of jail, he sure isn't flashing around at his resort or his ol' neighborhood.

Maybe havin' a cuppa green tea with Kam Nan Poh also on the run.

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There has been an article in the Bangkok Post a while ago. The relatives were of course paid off. It said some demanded a bit more money. That's it. Case closed.

Could you give a link? The last I read the families still hadn't been given anything, other than more promises.

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There has been an article in the Bangkok Post a while ago. The relatives were of course paid off. It said some demanded a bit more money. That's it. Case closed.

Could you give a link? The last I read the families still hadn't been given anything, other than more promises.

Agreed, Archa! The 'case closed' phrase was simply the cynical sign off of the last poster. May we please be privy to the BP story to which he refers? I scan carefully and have seen nothing and do assume that, yet again, money & influence triumph.

For any of we farangs (all of us? some of us?) out there who truly care for Thai people, especially those who have to rely on bus services if they can afford one, may I appeal that we keep this thread going? And strongly too? Letters to 'The Nation' and the 'BP' may indirectly help in this.

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From memory, the article suggested that negotiations were still on-going, though there was 'confirmation' that the case would go ahead, I seem to recall that event was supposed to be at the end of September. Unless someone copied it or has access to the archives, which are chargeable, it is unlikely to appear here, added to which BP complained to the site owner about the inclusion of its articles, and in principal loss of revenue to the archive, and insisted that fair use should only permit a brief extract.

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These may be in the thread, however, :-

From the September 1 Nation

No agreement reached on road rage

Negotiations between the Pachimsawas family and victims of the road rage incident in early July involving their son Kanpitak who drove into a crowded bus stop failed to reach a conclusion Monday, as two victims initially demanded Bt13 million. The case officer, LtColonel Yannawut Liamkaew, said the negotiations had "nothing to do" with the criminal charges of murder, attempted murder and assault against Kanpitak, which the police investigator will conclude for the Criminal Court within a week.

Further talks will be on September 14. Prior to the negotiations at Thong Lor police station, Kanpitak's mother, a former Miss Thailand, Savinee Pakaranang, told reporters that she would talk about compensation with four more victims out the 12 affected people eight of whom had already agreed to the compensation proposed. However, Savinee later told reporters the two hour talks did not reach any conclusion and her side wanted each victim to submit details of the damages claim to help her understand why they wanted such a large amount of money. One injured victim, Sangwan Srihawong, 40, initially asked for Bt6 million, but following discussions with Sangwan's lawyer Prakobrat Dechakul - the amount was lowered to Bt3 million, Savinee said.

Sucheera Insuwan, 25, whose mother Saichol Luangsaeng, 42, was killed in the incident said the Bangkok Mass Transit Authority (BMTA) sent a lawyer to help her family seek compensation and that she initially asked for Bt7 million, which she was in process of negotiating. "Such an amount of money can never replace my mom's life," she said, adding that the BMTA had also assisted the family by hiring her for her mother's position as a BMTA account. Two other victims, bus driver Sathaporn Arunsiri, 37, and bus conductor Somjit Klaewkla, 35, who were both slightly injured asked for Bt70,000 and Bt73,000 in compensation respectively. LtColonel Yannawut Liamkaew said if both parties could agree upon compensation, they would no longer need to file a civil lawsuit, he added.

In the July 4 incident, a Mercedes Benz slammed into a crowd of people who had just been ordered to alight from a bus. This followed an accident between the bus and the car and an altercation between the two drivers. The Pachimsawas family claimed Kanpitak, who was identified by witnesses as the Benz driver, suffered from epilepsy and that he had been treated at a mental hospital this year.

Earlier 14 August 2007 from the Nation
Benz driver's victims not paid as yet

The Pachimsawas family has yet to give any promised help or assistance to those affected by a road rage incident involving their son Kanpitak at a crowded bus stop in early July, according to the daughter of the woman who was killed. Sucheera Insuwan said she had not been contacted by Kan-anek Pachimsawas, the father of murder suspect Kanpitak, or his divorced wife Sawinee following the funeral of her mother, Saichol Luangsaeng. She said she expected to meet with the family tomorrow after giving them details of the damages claim. "If my family is happy with what they pay then everything will be finished, as I have no legal knowledge and our family has suffered enough," she said.

Sucheera thought it would be an injustice if Kanpitak escaped criminal liability for the incident. It was likely, she said, his family would seek to have him declared legally incompetent in order to gain sympathy from the court and escape the murder charge. "I have lost my mother as a result of somebody's thoughtless act. If he escapes justice I think it would be unfair to me. I would like to call on the judges to fully exercise their judgement in the most precise way they can," she added. Hathaithip Khrutthakhajorn, who was injured in the incident, said the lawyer for the Pachimsawas family had postponed scheduled appointments with her to settle the payment of damages several times. "It is quite clear he did everything because of his aggressiveness. I would also like to blame his parents for letting him drive, despite knowing that he was mentally sick," she said.

In the July 4 incident, a Mercedes Benz was slammed into a crowd of people who had just been ordered to alight from a bus. This followed an accident between the bus and the car and an altercation between the two drivers. The Pachimsawas family claimed Kanpitak, who was identified by witnesses as the Benz driver, suffered from epilepsy and that he had been treated at a mental hospital this year. Lt-Colonel Yannawut Liamkaew of Thong Lor police station said he would next week interview a psychiatrist who had treated Kanpitak. The psychiatrist had recently returned to Thailand from an overseas trip. More than 20 witnesses to the incident have been interviewed.

The officer said he was doing his job professionally and neutrally, and although he sympathised with both parties in the case, it was up to the court to rule on whether Kanpitak's state of mind would comply with legal conditions that exempt him from criminal liability. Sawinee pleaded for sympathy for her family, saying Kanpitak had dropped all of his university courses as he was suffering from stress and guilt. She said Kanpitak, also known as Ham, had offered to meet with those injured by his actions but they and their relatives had turned him down. "They might not yet be ready to meet or talk with Ham," she said. The former beauty queen said she had also been worried about Bambi, Kanpitak's younger sister who was present during the incident, because she was likely to suffer from stress if she heard anything bad about Kanpitak and it would affect her studies. Sawinee said she had constantly been in touch with the injured victims to offer help, and that her family had not tried to interfere with the police investigation.

Mayuree Sukyingcharoenwong

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From memory, the article suggested that negotiations were still on-going, though there was 'confirmation' that the case would go ahead, I seem to recall that event was supposed to be at the end of September. Unless someone copied it or has access to the archives, which are chargeable, it is unlikely to appear here, added to which BP complained to the site owner about the inclusion of its articles, and in principal loss of revenue to the archive, and insisted that fair use should only permit a brief extract.

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Off-thread comment: If BP really wants us/anybody to use their archive service, they should worry more about the functionality of their (dare I say, useless) search page than about articles being occasionally copied (which of course they have every right to complain about). If it were searchable and free (such as the NYT's) I would use it and they would be getting ad revenue, rather than the nada they are getting now.

On-thread comment: Ok, so the family hasn't paid and no charges have been filed (police probably still waiting to interview somebody, in the interest of fairness to all parties). But has the son been ordained yet?

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But has the son been ordained yet?

Such a harsh penalty is only used when it's a police officer the son kills.

No, this lad go sent to his room without milk or cookies, for two nights. (It was going to be three nights but Amnesty informed the parents it would be labeled as a human rights abuse case.)

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But has the son been ordained yet?

Such a harsh penalty is only used when it's a police officer the son kills.

No, this lad go sent to his room without milk or cookies, for two nights. (It was going to be three nights but Amnesty informed the parents it would be labeled as a human rights abuse case.)

yet another crime swept under the lino .

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You can murder sombody and pay the family a few bucks..case closed?

11/29/2007 05:33:46 PM EST

THE NATION

He has been released on a bail guarantee worth Bt1 million.

Kanpitak, son of former Miss Thailand Savinee Pakaranang, has been charged with premeditated murder, attempted murder and assault. The case will be heard on December 25.

According to the investigation report, Kanpitak was involved in a brawl with bus driver Sathaphorn Arunsiri and later threw a rock at him after they had argued over a minor traffic incident.

The accused later went back to his Mercedes car and drove into a crowd of people waiting at a bus stop at Sukhumvit Soi 26, killing Bangkok Mass Transit Authority employee Saichon Luangsaeng. Many people were injured in the accident.

The Nation

Copyright © 2007 Nation Multimedia Group, Source: The Financial Times Limited

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