Final officer convicted on US state charges over George Floyd death

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One of the Minneapolis officers involved in the death of George Floyd has been found guilty of aiding and abetting manslaughter.

A Minnesota judge issued the guilty verdict for Tou Thao on Monday night.

Four former police officer were charged in the aftermath of Mr Floyd's death. His killing led to mass protests around the world.

Thao's conviction on the latest charges marks the end in a series of state and federal cases against the four men.

Minnesota's attorney general Keith Ellison said Thao's conviction is "historic and the right outcome".

"While we have now reached the end of the prosecution of Floyd's murder, it is not behind us," he said.

 

"There is much more that prosecutors, law-enforcement leaders, rank-and-file officers, elected officials, and community can do to bring about true justice in law enforcement," he said.

[EVENKEEL]

It's shameful how we treat cops who are just doing their job.

[JonnyF]

22 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

It's shameful how we treat cops who are just doing their job.

In Tao's case all he did was hold back the baying crowd, which may have actually prevented a full on riot and more fatalaties. 

 

So in my opinion, this is harsh. If he failed to hold them back and fatalaties ensued as a result, he may still have faced manslaughter charges. He was between a rock and a hard place.

 

However, anything less than this would likely lead to BLM/Antifa and other extremist left wing groups burning and looting American cities again so he appears to have to take one for the team. 

[josephbloggs]

46 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

It's shameful how we treat cops who are just doing their job.

Great job!

[josephbloggs]

22 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

In Tao's case all he did was hold back the baying crowd, which may have actually prevented a full on riot and more fatalaties. 

 

So in my opinion, this is harsh. If he failed to hold them back and fatalaties ensued as a result, he may still have faced manslaughter charges. He was between a rock and a hard place.

 

However, anything less than this would likely lead to BLM/Antifa and other extremist left wing groups burning and looting American cities again so he appears to have to take one for the team. 

They all could see what was happening and did nothing to try to stop it. He even prevented a trained medical person (a firefighter) from providing medical assistance to George. Aiding and abetting manslaughter is the correct verdict.

[Tug]

50 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

It's shameful how we treat cops who are just doing their job.

Extra judicial murder isn’t tolerated in the United States of America get over it stop treating people of color like %ta& and ya won’t have riots and such

[EVENKEEL]

7 minutes ago, Tug said:

Extra judicial murder isn’t tolerated in the United States of America get over it stop treating people of color like %ta& and ya won’t have riots and such

Stop the theatrics, he's not charged with murder. Hopefully won't see anymore jail time.

[herfiehandbag]

13 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

It's shameful how we treat cops who are just doing their job.

Whilst you may view killing black men (whatever their criminal pasts) by kneeling on their necks until they stop breathing as acceptable, it is most certainly not "cops who are just doing their job"!

[Mac Mickmanus]

12 hours ago, Tug said:

Extra judicial murder isn’t tolerated in the United States of America get over it stop treating people of color like %ta& and ya won’t have riots and such

I would go even further than that and suggest that the American Police stop treating ALL people like that , they really need to stop shooting and killing ALL people , rather than just a select few 

[Tug]

12 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Stop the theatrics, he's not charged with murder. Hopefully won't see anymore jail time.

Stop the theatrics by saying they are just doing their job that cop stood by as a citizen was murdered no if you and I for that matter would plead for lenient treatment on account of being a rookie I’d tend to agree but just doing their job no sir they as a team really messed up that kind of mistake cannot be tolerated 

[EVENKEEL]

10 hours ago, Tug said:

Stop the theatrics by saying they are just doing their job that cop stood by as a citizen was murdered no if you and I for that matter would plead for lenient treatment on account of being a rookie I’d tend to agree but just doing their job no sir they as a team really messed up that kind of mistake cannot be tolerated 

This cop was doing crowd control, nothing more. But, to satisfy the BLM crowd they are charging him as well. 

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

This cop was doing crowd control, nothing more. But, to satisfy the BLM crowd they are charging him as well. 

Actually they charged him following an investigation and a Grand Jury indictment.

 

Nothing to do with your BLM grievance thing.

[EVENKEEL]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Actually they charged him following an investigation and a Grand Jury indictment.

 

Nothing to do with your BLM grievance thing.

You have your opinion as I have mine. 

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, EVENKEEL said:

You have your opinion as I have mine. 

My opinion is backed by the facts.

 

He was investigated, a Grand Jury handed down an indictment and a jury convicted him.

 

 

[riclag]

Most people accept and obey police commands ,when being detained .

Floyd didn’t adhere to the first attempt to detain him.

If only that occurred perhaps none of this would of transpired!

How many times has society been exposed to people who rather dispute commands on the street instead of in court.

In the video it shows his unwillingness to obey commands.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/31/derek-chauvins-attorney-argues-george-floyd-died-by-drug-overdose/

 

[Tug]

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

You have your opinion as I have mine. 

There was a crowd of people there telling them they were killing the guy in broad daylight no sir he failed to serve and protect all stop no excuses now in my personal opinion the guy was a rookie officer in a military type organization and to call out his superiors would be a tremendous act of courage and probably ruin his career with that thought in mind I hope he receives mercy

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Most people accept and obey police commands ,when being detained .

Floyd didn’t adhere to the first attempt to detain him.

If only that occurred perhaps none of this would of transpired!

How many times has society been exposed to people who rather dispute commands on the street instead of in court.

In the video it shows his unwillingness to obey commands.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/31/derek-chauvins-attorney-argues-george-floyd-died-by-drug-overdose/

 

Can you state under which statute the penalty for not immediately obeying a police officer is death?

[josephbloggs]

5 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

But, to satisfy the BLM crowd they are charging him as well. 

"....to satisfy the BLM crowd".   Ha ha, not hard to see which side of the fence you are sitting on.

 

So it was nothing to do with the fact that an unarmed man was murdered by the police by having his neck kneeled on for nine and a half minutes and a full minute and a half after he lost consciousness. Nothing to do with the fact that he was clearly dying and everyone could see that yet nobody did anything to stop it, the crowd were shouting for help. Nothing also to do with the fact that not only did this "officer" do nothing to try to stop the killing but he also prevented a person with trained medical skills (an off duty firefighter) from rendering medical assistance. That is clearly aiding and abetting manslaughter.

But no, none of the was taken in to account, it was all just to appease BLM. Like I say, easy to see which side of the fence you sit on as you have nailed your colours firmly to the mast with your post.

[Purdey]

On 5/3/2023 at 7:30 AM, JonnyF said:

all he did was hold back the baying crowd,

Do you mean the baying crowd yelling at the police officers that they were killing the guy on the ground? I doubt the crowd would have shouted quite as much if these guys weren't in the process of murdering someone in cold blood. Should they have stood back quietly and let it happen?

Guilty as charged.

[JonnyF]

2 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Do you mean the baying crowd yelling at the police officers that they were killing the guy on the ground? I doubt the crowd would have shouted quite as much if these guys weren't in the process of murdering someone in cold blood. Should they have stood back quietly and let it happen?

Guilty as charged.

I suspect if he had allowed the baying crowd to advance on the officers then there would have more fatalities, possibly the officers and possibly people in the crowds. He was in an impossible position. Damned if he did and damned if he didn't.

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Do you mean the baying crowd yelling at the police officers that they were killing the guy on the ground? I doubt the crowd would have shouted quite as much if these guys weren't in the process of murdering someone in cold blood. Should they have stood back quietly and let it happen?

Guilty as charged.

The Police are taught and trained to control the crowd , they tell the public what to do .

   The Police are not trained to accept demands from the public .

   The Police tell the public to "stand back" , the public don't tell the Police to "stand back"

[Chomper Higgot]

54 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I suspect if he had allowed the baying crowd to advance on the officers then there would have more fatalities, possibly the officers and possibly people in the crowds. He was in an impossible position. Damned if he did and damned if he didn't.

He didn’t, and Floyd was damned. 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The Police are taught and trained to control the crowd , they tell the public what to do .

   The Police are not trained to accept demands from the public .

   The Police tell the public to "stand back" , the public don't tell the Police to "stand back"

No amount of police training obviates the duty not to unlawfully kill civilians.

 

If officers are, as you say trained, then they should be handling the situation and continually assessing developments.

 

Multiple people standing near by telling police officers that they are killing the guy who one of the officers has his knee on his neck is the kind of thing trained officers ought reasonably be expected respond to. 
 

The Jury agreed.
 

But back to this training you mention, I wonder which part of police training covers holding a person to the ground with your knee on his neck for over 9 minutes?
 

 

[EVENKEEL]

3 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

"....to satisfy the BLM crowd".   Ha ha, not hard to see which side of the fence you are sitting on.

 

So it was nothing to do with the fact that an unarmed man was murdered by the police by having his neck kneeled on for nine and a half minutes and a full minute and a half after he lost consciousness. Nothing to do with the fact that he was clearly dying and everyone could see that yet nobody did anything to stop it, the crowd were shouting for help. Nothing also to do with the fact that not only did this "officer" do nothing to try to stop the killing but he also prevented a person with trained medical skills (an off duty firefighter) from rendering medical assistance. That is clearly aiding and abetting manslaughter.

But no, none of the was taken in to account, it was all just to appease BLM. Like I say, easy to see which side of the fence you sit on as you have nailed your colours firmly to the mast with your post.

This man did nothing wrong except keep people back. He was doing crowd control, nothing more.

 

My belief and opinion of which I'm entitled is that the guilty verdict was in part fear of a backlash in the community if he was found innocent. 

[Chomper Higgot]

21 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

This man did nothing wrong except keep people back. He was doing crowd control, nothing more.

 

My belief and opinion of which I'm entitled is that the guilty verdict was in part fear of a backlash in the community if he was found innocent. 

The jury disagree with you.

[Bkk Brian]

9 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

This cop was doing crowd control, nothing more. But, to satisfy the BLM crowd they are charging him as well. 

"This cop was doing crowd control, nothing more."

 

Not true, he was standing over Floyd as he was on the ground with a knee on his neck by the other officer. Floyd was still just alive screaming to be let go just before he died. Tou did nothing while this was going on a couple of feet away from him.

 

Tou Thao also had 6 previous complaints made against him including a brutality lawsuit for throwing a man to the ground and hitting him.

 

Video:

https://www.nytimes.com/article/george-floyd.html

[candide]

23 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

This man did nothing wrong except keep people back. He was doing crowd control, nothing more.

 

My belief and opinion of which I'm entitled is that the guilty verdict was in part fear of a backlash in the community if he was found innocent. 

You are making things up!

 

Watch the video. There was no crowd, only a few people. They were not threatening or trying to intervene. They were cautiously remaining on the sidewalk, and were just yelling Floyd was dying. There was no crowd control. The video even showed a cop watching it quietly with his hands in his pockets.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/01/us/george-floyd-three-videos-minneapolis/index.html

[candide]

7 hours ago, riclag said:

Most people accept and obey police commands ,when being detained .

Floyd didn’t adhere to the first attempt to detain him.

If only that occurred perhaps none of this would of transpired!

How many times has society been exposed to people who rather dispute commands on the street instead of in court.

In the video it shows his unwillingness to obey commands.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/31/derek-chauvins-attorney-argues-george-floyd-died-by-drug-overdose/

 

 

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Can you state under which statute the penalty for not immediately obeying a police officer is death?

More precisely:

 

Can you state under which statute the penalty for 'a handcuffed man' not immediately obeying a police officer is death?

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, candide said:

 

More precisely:

 

Can you state under which statute the penalty for 'a handcuffed man' not immediately obeying a police officer is death?

No one is suggesting that the correct outcome was death or that he deserved to die .

   Point being that had he not resisted arrest and had he followed the Police  officers instructions then he wouldn't have been restrained and he wouldn't have died . 

[transam]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No amount of police training obviates the duty not to unlawfully kill civilians.

 

If officers are, as you say trained, then they should be handling the situation and continually assessing developments.

 

Multiple people standing near by telling police officers that they are killing the guy who one of the officers has his knee on his neck is the kind of thing trained officers ought reasonably be expected respond to. 
 

The Jury agreed.
 

But back to this training you mention, I wonder which part of police training covers holding a person to the ground with your knee on his neck for over 9 minutes?
 

 

Try watching YouTube vids on USA police doing their job, you will see many police trying to arrest nutters using knee on head, neck, whatever.......

OH, I forgot, you don't watch video's, even true life police video's................????