What can be done to make Thai Roads safer?

[Fab5BKK]

55 minutes ago, novacova said:

Speed has a lot to with traffic accidents. Road conditions, driving behavior of other drivers. Can’t compare road conditions and speeding of different countries with different road conditions and driving behavior. I can confidently drive 90+mph on an open west Texas highway that is smooth and wide and generally have confidence that most drivers are paying attention to their surroundings. Can’t do that here. 

Did you understand what I wrote? I don't think so...

Did you have a look @ the stats? I don't think so...

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, Fab5BKK said:

Speed is not the main factor for road accidents, far of...

Or, how could you explain that Germany has much less road fatalities per million of inhabitants than France (for example), knowing that in Germany many autobahns have no speed limits under normal conditions?

 

I used to drive my Porsche 911 a lot in Europe and specially in Germany...

 

EU Road Safety Statistics

 

Apparently you don't understand, speed vs speed limit.  Exceeding and or driving too fast for conditions.   Germany is irrelevant, if they have roads made to drive silly speed, then speed wouldn't be a problem.

 

Any cross traffic or ding dong u-turns on those German autobahns ... I think not.  Drive 90 kph on the highway, as we usually do, and you'll be one of the slowest vehicles there.   But I can stop if needed.

 

Drive 60 through metro areas or 30 through the villages and everyone will be passing you.  Take those curves on the highways here, posted at 40-50-60 kph.  It's almost impossible for 'you' to have an accident, cause it, if you drive the speed limit.

 

Every accident I've been in, back in USA, was because I was driving too fast for conditions.

[Bday Prang]

On 6/14/2023 at 1:12 PM, kwilco said:

I HAVE read the road traffic act and most of the amendments.

I also have the ability to think critically, and have a huge experience of road safety. I can tell when someone hasn't made sense of what they've read

enough said (yet again)

[Bday Prang]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Every accident I've been in, back in USA, was because I was driving too fast for conditions

I think its pretty safe to say that is the case in most if not all accidents, for at least one of the parties involved, and that applies in any country, it's not unique to Thailand. Personally I'd rather the motorist here does not become a cash cow and end up being persecuted as a source of funds for a cash strapped government  I much prefer driving here than in the UK and have had less issues here than I ever had there. 

[kwilco]

Traditional road accident investigations focus on assigning blame, which can be helpful in legal proceedings. However, "no blame" investigations take a different approach with the following goals. It involves a scientific understanding of “human error” as a constant in road safety

 

The idea is safety improvement; by understanding all contributing factors to an accident, regardless of fault, it becomes possible to identify ways to prevent similar accidents in the future. This is basically the same approach applied in accident investigations for industries like aviation and rail.

 

It requires participation of people involved as the fear of blame can discourage people involved in accidents from cooperating fully with investigations. A "no blame" approach fosters a more open environment where everyone involved feels comfortable sharing information.

 

Trying to blame an accident entirely on one person of factor is barking up the wrong tree.  The aim is to focus on systemic issues. Accidents are rarely caused by a single factor. "No blame" investigations can consider broader contributing elements, like road design, infrastructure issues, or even weather conditions. These are crucial as they lead to repeats of similar incidents.

 

This approach is based on the idea that most accidents arise from a complex interplay of factors, and focusing solely on blame can hinder efforts to improve overall road safety.

 

[KhunLA]

6 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

I think its pretty safe to say that is the case in most if not all accidents, for at least one of the parties involved, and that applies in any country, it's not unique to Thailand. Personally I'd rather the motorist here does not become a cash cow and end up being persecuted as a source of funds for a cash strapped government  I much prefer driving here than in the UK and have had less issues here than I ever had there. 

Agree, and I like things just the way they are here, and enjoy driving here more than back in the USA.

[Ste78]

usage of lights at night would be a good starting point: with my daughter we alway play the game at night time to count how many motorbikes/car don't have light and we count at least 10 in 5 km in Rayong area.

 

another point would be to use correct line, especially in motorway:

when 3 lines, also the police escort tourist busses in 3rd lane, makes no sense.

then 1st line usually empty so fast car use it which is dangerous

 

observe a MINIMUM speed.

most of the time it's not necessary for Thai the speed limit, because also in motorway they go slow.

a minimum speed or 80/100 dependending on the lane would help, because sometimes you get cars going 60/80 in faster lane, which cause traffic.

 

helmet is a big question mark. they use the mask but cannot see how dangerous or lethal can be fall down from motorbike?