Popular Post RobU Posted May 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 hour ago, billd766 said: And have you examined all the evidence< or even any of the evidence? A simple yes or no question. No one on this forum has examined all the evidence or interviewed the suspect neither me nor you, unless you are RTP involved in the case. So can you please stop trolling and go away 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 3 hours ago, billd766 said: 3 hours ago, Confuscious said: Refused to speak" or he didn't know where the body of Ping Pong was? I have my doubts about his "confession". I don't. You don’t have doubts about ANY confessions? Or just this one ? You don’t think there’s any need to seek corroboration? And if just this one ,given another suspect was tortured /killed by plastic bag at the hands of Thai police, why are you so credulous on this particular case? I’m not convinced you have thought too deeply about the principles of due legal process. More of an emotional'gut feel' type of guy…? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 hour ago, nchuckle said: You don’t have doubts about ANY confessions? Or just this one ? You don’t think there’s any need to seek corroboration? And if just this one ,given another suspect was tortured /killed by plastic bag at the hands of Thai police, why are you so credulous on this particular case? I’m not convinced you have thought too deeply about the principles of due legal process. More of an emotional'gut feel' type of guy…? In this place everything should be questioned. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 On 5/14/2023 at 7:50 AM, webfact said: A local man with a criminal history, 44 year old Chaiwat, confessed to murdering Ben but would not reveal the whereabouts of Ping Pong despite being subject to interrogation. I wonder if that is because he raped her first - or after killing her - and his dna would be on/in her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 4 hours ago, RobU said: No one on this forum has examined all the evidence or interviewed the suspect neither me nor you, unless you are RTP involved in the case. So can you please stop trolling and go away So not even you yourself have examined ANY evidence yet you accuse me of trolling. 55555 NO. I am not trolling. If you think I am then report me to the. moderators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 4 hours ago, nchuckle said: You don’t have doubts about ANY confessions? Or just this one ? You don’t think there’s any need to seek corroboration? And if just this one ,given another suspect was tortured /killed by plastic bag at the hands of Thai police, why are you so credulous on this particular case? I’m not convinced you have thought too deeply about the principles of due legal process. More of an emotional'gut feel' type of guy…? So far this week I have no concern about this particular confession. It matters not to me whether you think I have thought too deeply about the principles of due legal process. I speak only for myself. Others may agree or disagree with me. That would be their choice and nobody else's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 4 hours ago, nchuckle said: You don’t have doubts about ANY confessions? Or just this one ? You don’t think there’s any need to seek corroboration? And if just this one ,given another suspect was tortured /killed by plastic bag at the hands of Thai police, why are you so credulous on this particular case? I’m not convinced you have thought too deeply about the principles of due legal process. More of an emotional'gut feel' type of guy…? That he led them to the body seems to corroborate his story, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torturedsole Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 3 hours ago, RichardColeman said: I wonder if that is because he raped her first - or after killing her - and his dna would be on/in her He could have had a sexual interest in Ben as well. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confuscious Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Yellowtail said: That he led them to the body seems to corroborate his story, yes? "He led them to the body" or "they led him to the body". Which one is TRUE? As far as I can see in the videos of the reenactement, he was led by the police everywhere and following the orders from the police. That says more than enough about the Police conducting a reenactment. Same as the poor Burmese boys where the Police found "something belonging to the victims" and led the poor Burmese boys around in the reenactment. Edited May 15, 2023 by Confuscious grammar 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confuscious Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 13 hours ago, RobU said: It's also possible that this old lag was paid to take the blame by the real perpetrator, hence his refusal to admit to the girl's murder and location of the body (because he didn't know) You hit the nail on the hat, RobU. And most of us, long time expats in this country, know very well who the real murdererS are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confuscious Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 10 hours ago, billd766 said: They were murdered and their human rights to life snatched away, and here you are saying that the perpetrator "may" not have committed the crime he has already admitted to. If I close you up in a room for 14 hours, put some electricity on your crown jewels, put a few plastic bags over your head, and torture you with the ideas from mothers finest in Thailand, I am sure you will admit this crime too .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
it is what it is Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 On 5/14/2023 at 4:58 PM, dingdongrb said: Doesn't Thailand have/use any cadaver dogs? sadly search and rescue services are not what we are used to in our home countries. that's just how it is in thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmjl Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Now the two bodies have been found (RIP) where is the motorbike? There are a lot of people on this forum willing to presume the guilt of what is obviously a not very nice person but TiT not the Western world,as Confuscious says everyone of us would admit to anything if we were being tortured 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Confuscious said: If I close you up in a room for 14 hours, put some electricity on your crown jewels, put a few plastic bags over your head, and torture you with the ideas from mothers finest in Thailand, I am sure you will admit this crime too .... And lead you to the body and not say a word in front of the cameras. So, your theory is that the police killed them and are using this guy cover for them? Would it not have been a lot easier to kill him while he was trying to "escape"? Edited May 16, 2023 by Yellowtail 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 12 hours ago, Confuscious said: If I close you up in a room for 14 hours, put some electricity on your crown jewels, put a few plastic bags over your head, and torture you with the ideas from mothers finest in Thailand, I am sure you will admit this crime too .... I most certainly would. Are you saying that is what the police actually did, or is it simply your opinion. If you are claiming it then post the proof. If it is just your opinion, it is worth as much as anybody else's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confuscious Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 46 minutes ago, billd766 said: I most certainly would. Are you saying that is what the police actually did, or is it simply your opinion. If you are claiming it then post the proof. If it is just your opinion, it is worth as much as anybody else's. He admitted to the crime only after 14 hrs of interrogation at the police and his admittance was far from complete. That's enough proof for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Confuscious said: He admitted to the crime only after 14 hrs of interrogation at the police and his admittance was far from complete. That's enough proof for me So it is only your opinion which is the opposite of mine. But is it enough proof for the police and the court? Our words and levels of proof don't matter here in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00dle Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 On 5/14/2023 at 7:50 AM, webfact said: The remains were removed from the shallow grave while the search team waited for the arrival of forensics officers. for the love of god, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00dle Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, it is what it is said: sadly search and rescue services are not what we are used to in our home countries. that's just how it is in thailand. which makes sense as we are not in our home countries, innit? Edited May 16, 2023 by n00dle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Confuscious said: He admitted to the crime only after 14 hrs of interrogation at the police and his admittance was far from complete. That's enough proof for me And let them to the body.... How many people do you think confess when first asked? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Yellowtail said: And lead you to the body and not say a word in front of the cameras. There's nothing I've seen that indicates he led them to the body. According the articles earlier in this thread, he has continued to deny any knowledge of her fate, and her body was found following a tipoff received from someone who saw her being led into the forest by a man. Edited May 16, 2023 by GroveHillWanderer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confuscious Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 38 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: And let them to the body.... How many people do you think confess when first asked? The body was found by people who were alarmed by the smell of rotting flesh. Not by the alleged murderer. And the body was carried away BEFORE any knowledgable forensic expert arrived and could prove the police wrong. This whole "confession" stinks more then the death people and remind me on the poor burmesee suckers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 A troll post and off-topic posts have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 23 minutes ago, Confuscious said: The body was found by people who were alarmed by the smell of rotting flesh. Not by the alleged murderer. And the body was carried away BEFORE any knowledgable forensic expert arrived and could prove the police wrong. This whole "confession" stinks more then the death people and remind me on the poor burmesee suckers. So, your theory is that the police killed them and are using this guy cover for them? Would it not have been a lot easier to kill him while he was trying to "escape"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foexie Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 On 5/14/2023 at 3:59 AM, NanLaew said: I was unaware that a Thai minor's identity, deceased or otherwise, is age protected. Is it a legal exclusion or a local media protocol? And this is really the only/first tought/feeling/worry you have? GEEEEEZZZZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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