Popular Post webfact Posted May 21, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 21, 2023 Image Courtesy: United Front of Thammasat and Demonstration The “United Front of Thammasat and Demonstration” (UFTD), which is affiliated with the Ratsadon anti-establishment group, is urging members of the public to rally in front of the Thai parliament this Tuesday at 5pm, to put pressure on the Senate not to vote against Move Forward party’s Pita Limjaroenrat as Thailand’s 30th prime minister. The UFTD said on its Facebook page today (Sunday) that the results of the recent general election are an important reflection of the wants and aspirations of the people and they want to see change, adding that, according to democratic principles, such voices must be heeded. The 2017 Constitution, however, involves the 250 unelected senators in the selection process for the prime minister. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thai-anti-establishment-activists-plan-rally-on-tuesday-to-pressure-senate/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2023-05-22 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. The most versatile and flexible rental investment and holiday home solution in Thailand - click for more information. 4 1
neeray Posted May 21, 2023 Posted May 21, 2023 A little bit of pre-selling/pre-conditioning is often a good thing. 1
Popular Post ikke1959 Posted May 21, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 21, 2023 Not a good thing to do I think... Thai army doesn't like pressure from outside 5 1
Popular Post h90 Posted May 21, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 21, 2023 How is the party from an oligarch in an coalition with another oligarchs party not establishment as well? It is just different groups of elites who struggle for influence. 4 5 1 1
quake Posted May 21, 2023 Posted May 21, 2023 24 minutes ago, h90 said: How is the party from an oligarch in an coalition with another oligarchs party not establishment as well? It is just different groups of elites who struggle for influence. Yeap. But there different. 1
Popular Post AustinRacing Posted May 21, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 21, 2023 Give the army another excuse to muscle in to keep “law and order”. 1 3
Popular Post h90 Posted May 21, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, quake said: Yeap. But they are different. this time it will be different 1 2
quake Posted May 21, 2023 Posted May 21, 2023 Just now, h90 said: this time it will be different Nah. dream on. Blame game culture and squabbling to come. Before they hear that rumbling in the distance, and what will come round the corner. surprise surprise. Same same, but same.
mania Posted May 21, 2023 Posted May 21, 2023 4 hours ago, webfact said: anti-establishment group, is urging members of the public to rally in front of the Thai parliament this Tuesday at 5pm, to put pressure on the Senate not to vote against Move Forward party’s Pita Limjaroenrat This could be as black flag as it gets. It could instead give the BS250 the excuse to say..."See this is what is expected of anti establishment"
h90 Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 1 hour ago, quake said: Nah. dream on. Blame game culture and squabbling to come. Before they hear that rumbling in the distance, and what will come round the corner. surprise surprise. Same same, but same. There are 60+ year old people who still believe that this time if only this party wins everything will change to the better But maybe, maybe this time it is real a good guy
quake Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, h90 said: There are 60+ year old people who still believe that this time if only this party wins everything will change to the better But maybe, maybe this time it is real a good guy Change needs to come from within the Thai people. Not just changing a government. Do you think Thai people truly want to change themselves. I don't think they do. I think they just want there turn at the trough. I hope I'm wrong, but history says I'm right. Good luck to the New kids on the block.
bamnutsak Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 Time for service and detailing on the blue trucks. Make sure those plows on the front are in working condition. And start stacking containers and rigging razor wire.
Popular Post h90 Posted May 22, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 22, 2023 27 minutes ago, quake said: Change needs to come from within the Thai people. Not just changing a government. Do you think Thai people truly want to change themselves. I don't think they do. I think they just want there turn at the trough. I hope I'm wrong, but history says I'm right. Good luck to the New kids on the block. History says either another turn at the trough or a change to the much worse (when there are big changes it most of the time get much worse first). I hope Thai people don't want to change themself, with all the problems the average life quality is pretty good here....Even being poor the over all life quality is better than being poor in US/UK/DE...etc 1 1 1
quake Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 17 minutes ago, h90 said: History says either another turn at the trough or a change to the much worse (when there are big changes it most of the time get much worse first). I hope Thai people don't want to change themself, with all the problems the average life quality is pretty good here....Even being poor the over all life quality is better than being poor in US/UK/DE...etc Yeap your right
Popular Post Dr B Posted May 22, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 22, 2023 41 minutes ago, h90 said: History says either another turn at the trough or a change to the much worse (when there are big changes it most of the time get much worse first). I hope Thai people don't want to change themself, with all the problems the average life quality is pretty good here....Even being poor the over all life quality is better than being poor in US/UK/DE...etc Can you please advise how much time you have spent being poor in Thailand, or in US/UK/DE etc, to allow you to reach such a firm conclusion? 2 1
Purdey Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 Timing couldn't be worse. MF hasn't been rejected as a government. Senators are concerned an MF government will lead to street protests. Now they will be proven correct. Waiting to allow the MF party to get support from the Senate before these rash provocations. Demonstrations are hardly likely to convince that MF can lead. 2
h90 Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 37 minutes ago, Dr B said: Can you please advise how much time you have spent being poor in Thailand, or in US/UK/DE etc, to allow you to reach such a firm conclusion? It happens that I know some people and I studied without much money. But feel free to google the situation in US...with "tent" cities and trailer parks. In Thailand you neither starve nor the winter hits you.
h90 Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 33 minutes ago, Purdey said: Timing couldn't be worse. MF hasn't been rejected as a government. Senators are concerned an MF government will lead to street protests. Now they will be proven correct. Waiting to allow the MF party to get support from the Senate before these rash provocations. Demonstrations are hardly likely to convince that MF can lead. I think and I could be wrong that at the end there will be PTP lead government and everyone but MF is happy.
Purdey Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, h90 said: I think and I could be wrong that at the end there will be PTP lead government and everyone but MF is happy. Yes that now looks very possible.
MrMojoRisin Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 2 hours ago, h90 said: There are 60+ year old people who still believe that this time if only this party wins everything will change to the better But maybe, maybe this time it is real a good guy D-e-s-p-e-r-a-t-i-o-n. You have lost. The quicker you get through the denial phase, the better off you will be. Time to enjoy life in a democracy. 1 1
MrMojoRisin Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Purdey said: Timing couldn't be worse. MF hasn't been rejected as a government. Senators are concerned an MF government will lead to street protests. Now they will be proven correct. Waiting to allow the MF party to get support from the Senate before these rash provocations. Demonstrations are hardly likely to convince that MF can lead. Nonsense. The people finally have their foot on the throat of the elites - time to ram the victory home. 1
h90 Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: D-e-s-p-e-r-a-t-i-o-n. You have lost. The quicker you get through the denial phase, the better off you will be. Time to enjoy life in a democracy. What did I loose? I am no party member, no party fanboy and I am not Prayuth posting under a Farang name..... I don't even loose much if red or yellow shirts (or new now orange) run amok again. 1
Dr B Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 32 minutes ago, h90 said: I think and I could be wrong that at the end there will be PTP lead government and everyone but MF is happy. I am not quite sure how you arrived at "everyone". 36% of votes cast on 14 May were for MF.
Popular Post MrMojoRisin Posted May 22, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 22, 2023 1 hour ago, h90 said: History says either another turn at the trough or a change to the much worse (when there are big changes it most of the time get much worse first). I hope Thai people don't want to change themself, with all the problems the average life quality is pretty good here....Even being poor the over all life quality is better than being poor in US/UK/DE...etc What garbage. There is no safety net here. Things go wrong and Thais have nothing but family to rely on. It is much worse here. History (2001 election of Thaksin) says that democratically elected governments can make massive positive impacts on the nation such as: reducing poverty, paying off government debt, increasing healthcare access for all, kick starting rural development, reducing the suicide rate, increasing minimum wages, decreasing inequality etc. etc. Your dreams of continued junta rule are just that - dreams. 1 2
Purdey Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: Nonsense. The people finally have their foot on the throat of the elites - time to ram the victory home. Yes, the people have enough tanks and airplanes of course to rise against the military. Not. The military has never backed down from a fight against unarmed young people. Thammasart 1976 for instance. Thai troops crushed a demonstration against the country's new military-backed prime minister in 1992 after opening fire on crowds protesting the arrest of a key opposition leader. At least 24 people died in Bangkok as government troops shot civilians in 2010. Yes, nonsense indeed. 1
MrMojoRisin Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, Purdey said: Yes, the people have enough tanks and airplanes of course to rise against the military. Not. The military has never backed down from a fight against unarmed young people. Thammasart 1976 for instance. Thai troops crushed a demonstration against the country's new military-backed prime minister in 1992 after opening fire on crowds protesting the arrest of a key opposition leader. At least 24 people died in Bangkok as government troops shot civilians in 2010. Yes, nonsense indeed. Watch…., and learn.
h90 Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, Purdey said: Yes, the people have enough tanks and airplanes of course to rise against the military. Not. The military has never backed down from a fight against unarmed young people. Thammasart 1976 for instance. Thai troops crushed a demonstration against the country's new military-backed prime minister in 1992 after opening fire on crowds protesting the arrest of a key opposition leader. At least 24 people died in Bangkok as government troops shot civilians in 2010. Yes, nonsense indeed. 2010: Was that the red shirt protests.... Where the military lost several people due to gunfire from your civilians...had to fall back and get weapons. The last 2 coups were without blood....but yes 30 or 50 years earlier it was a different world......But 1976 even Prayuth was young boy
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