1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

Appearing Thursday night on CNN, Trump attorney James Trusty said the indictment includes charges of willful retention of national defense information — a crime under the Espionage Act, which polices the handling of government secrets — obstruction, false statements and conspiracy.

 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-justice-department-indictment-classified-documents-miami-8315a5b23c18f27083ed64eef21efff3

Trusty, is absolutely correct and the jail term upon conviction will place the Donald into a Federal location, maybe Lompoc, or a Club Fed as some are known. He should fit right in and become the defacto leader of the club.....

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2015/01/05/what-its-really-like-inside-club-fed-prisons/

 

“It’s kind of like a junior college setting,” explained Larry Levine, director and founder of Wall Street Prison Consultants, which advises clients before going into lock-up. “I don’t want to call it a stress-free environment, but it’s a lot of hanging out with the other inmates, you know, just bull—-ing.”

 

Edited June 9, 20233 yr by ozimoron

Twice impeached.

First president to be indicted on a state charge.

First president to be indicted on a federal charge.

(And other cases still being investigated).

Tired of winning yet?

I predicted several months ago Trump will exit his candidacy by the end of this month. Now the wheels are rolling into a probable dream come true. 

GOP opponent calls on Trump to drop out after latest charges and ‘disrespect for the rule of law’

GOP opponent calls on Trump to drop out after latest charges and ‘disrespect for the rule of law’ (msn.com)

Good news. I was getting sick of the stupid "witch hunt" mantra from the MAGA cohort..

6 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

I predicted several months ago Trump will exit his candidacy by the end of this month. Now the wheels are rolling into a probable dream come true. 

GOP opponent calls on Trump to drop out after latest charges and ‘disrespect for the rule of law’

GOP opponent calls on Trump to drop out after latest charges and ‘disrespect for the rule of law’ (msn.com)

I don't see any evidence yet that Trump will exit the race short of him being put behind bars. He could still run in prison but I think even republicans will understand nominating a jailbird is a losing proposition.

11 minutes ago, ballpoint said:

Twice impeached.

First president to be indicted on a state charge.

First president to be indicted on a federal charge.

(And other cases still being investigated).

Tired of winning yet?

They can't get enough "winning"

Its a indictment but it feels more like political persecution against his supporters likeJordan , Donalds ,Graham , Grassly , Staffanic , Green , Gatze and hundreds of other Gop officials along with
Millions of hard working Americans who just want to hold the unelected bureaucrats accountable!Thats what the declassified docs were all about imop

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Whilst I believe this is politically motivated, I would be glad to see Trump stand down from politics.

 

He's had his time, the future is DeSantis. The US needs fresh, younger blood than the current selection of stumbling, mumbling geriatrics on offer.

It is not politically motivated.

Nominating Trump is the best chance the democrats have to hold the presidency.

Taking him out before he can be nominated is good for the republicans!

Edited June 9, 20233 yr by Jingthing

5 hours ago, Tug said:

7 counts let’s hope that = 7 convictions!wonder if they pulled his passport and issued a no fly!it’s a good day for the rule of law!

I want a perp walk!

The public deserves a perp walk!

4 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Well even though Miami-Dade County went for Biden in 2020, jury pool there would certainly be less hostile to Trump than  New York City and environs.

That's true. 

3 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

... or, I should have said, Washington DC.

That being said the other side of the coin is this from a prosecutor's point of view.

 

Former President Donald Trump will face charges in the Southern District of Florida, a venue whose reputation for swift proceedings has earned it "rocket docket" status -- a colloquialism that reflects its strict adherence to the speedy trial clock.

The judges in the Southern District of Florida adhere very strictly to the Speedy Trial clock, which, with limited exceptions, requires trial or conviction to occur within 70 days."

 

1 minute ago, earlinclaifornia said:

That being said the other side of the coin is this from a prosecutor's point of view.

 

Former President Donald Trump will face charges in the Southern District of Florida, a venue whose reputation for swift proceedings has earned it "rocket docket" status -- a colloquialism that reflects its strict adherence to the speedy trial clock.

The judges in the Southern District of Florida adhere very strictly to the Speedy Trial clock, which, with limited exceptions, requires trial or conviction to occur within 70 days."

 

Rhe specualtion on CNN is 6 months and depending on the judge and any delay motions could take it into the election season.

9 minutes ago, riclag said:

Its a indictment but it feels more like political persecution against his supporters likeJordan , Donalds ,Graham , Grassly , Staffanic , Green , Gatze and hundreds of other Gop officials along with
Millions of hard working Americans who just want to hold the unelected bureaucrats accountable!Thats what the declassified docs were all about imop

"Millions of hard working Americans who just want to hold the unelected bureaucrats accountable!Thats what the declassified docs were all about imop"

 

What declassified documents and how does holding Trump accountable for the theft of government documents have anything to do with unelected bureaucrats?

14 minutes ago, riclag said:

Its a indictment but it feels more like political persecution against his supporters likeJordan , Donalds ,Graham , Grassly , Staffanic , Green , Gatze and hundreds of other Gop officials along with
Millions of hard working Americans who just want to hold the unelected bureaucrats accountable!Thats what the declassified docs were all about imop

Can you explain how you came to the belief that the classified documents were declassified and he was able to keep them in his possession, without it first being cleared through the National Archives?  I am aghast that there are people who still believe this mans lies and his mantra.....

6 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Rhe specualtion on CNN is 6 months and depending on the judge and any delay motions could take it into the election season.

He will be running from Trial to trial it appears.  Maybe he will set up his political stops on his way in between each jurisdiction. 

49 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Appearing Thursday night on CNN, Trump attorney James Trusty said the indictment includes charges of willful retention of national defense information — a crime under the Espionage Act, which polices the handling of government secrets — obstruction, false statements and conspiracy.

 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-justice-department-indictment-classified-documents-miami-8315a5b23c18f27083ed64eef21efff3

A rational defendant would negotiate a plea:  "Guarantee I don't serve time and I won't insist secrets be revealed in court."  I assume that is what Gen Patreus did.  I don't think "rational defendant" apples to Trump.

Trump didnt steal documents !As Potus he declassified them in a memo!

 He was negotiating with gov agencies as had been reported!

Now its in the courts hands!

12 minutes ago, heybruce said:

A rational defendant would negotiate a plea:  "Guarantee I don't serve time and I won't insist secrets be revealed in court."  I assume that is what Gen Patreus did.  I don't think "rational defendant" apples to Trump.

That is exactly what his lawyers should have done in last week's meeting. The claim is now that Trump is 100% going to be the nominee.

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

Trump didnt steal documents !As Potus he declassified them in a memo!

 He was negotiating with gov agencies as had been reported!

Now its in the courts hands!

Really, so what was Trump talking about in the audio recording they have?

 

"Federal prosecutors have obtained an audio recording of a summer 2021 meeting in which former President Donald Trump acknowledges he held onto a classified Pentagon document about a potential attack on Iran, multiple sources told CNN, undercutting his argument that he declassified everything.

The recording indicates Trump understood he retained classified material after leaving the White House, according to multiple sources familiar with the investigation. On the recording, Trump’s comments suggest he would like to share the information but he’s aware of limitations on his ability post-presidency to declassify records, two of the sources said."

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/31/politics/trump-tape-classified-document-iran-milley/index.html

 

Besides which, the espionage act, presidential records act etc does not matter if docs are declassified or not.

 

MAGA = My A* Got Arrested.

6 minutes ago, riclag said:

Trump didnt steal documents !As Potus he declassified them in a memo!

 He was negotiating with gov agencies as had been reported!

Now its in the courts hands!

If he had been negotiating and turning the documents over as you say, there would never have been an investigation, and no it was not and is not being done as a political hack job.  Look at the evidence.  If there was no evidence a grand jury never would have decided there was enough evidence to indict.  You really are not looking very clearly at the situation.

Two questions:

 

1) Will a single trump delusional loser here toss him any donation in his gravest hour of need even equal to a single happy-hour Chang? (No)

 

2) Lady-boy imitator, Kari Lake, has urged all other Republican candidates to suspend their candidacies immediately to show support for Trump. Will any do so? (No).

 

-Mannish Kari cuts right to the chase: If you're running against him and you bemoan this shocking miscarriage of justice, then why are you running against him? Pence didn't do Hannity tonight. They're all running scared.

A very dark day, equal justice I think not.

1 minute ago, vandeventer said:

A very dark day, equal justice I think not.

Many Trump cult members welcome such indictments. They think playing the persecuted will help him win. 

5 minutes ago, LaosLover said:

Two questions:

 

1) Will a single trump delusional loser here toss him any donation in his gravest hour of need even equal to a single happy-hour Chang? (No)

 

2) Lady-boy imitator, Kari Lake, has urged all other Republican candidates to suspend their candidacies immediately to show support for Trump. Will any do so? (No).

 

-Mannish Kari cuts right to the chase: If you're running against him and you bemoan this shocking miscarriage of justice, then why are you running against him? Pence didn't do Hannity tonight. They're all running scared.

Can you clarify your post please.  Who exactly are you referring to as Running Scared?  Trumps supporters?

I predict his biggest fundraiser weekend ever. Soak those morons.

 

Only one of his lawyers is legal to practice in Florida. He went from D-list representation to now D-list representation with a lot of empty seats. And some of his lawyers may now ve witnesses.

 

MAGA = My Attorneys Get Attorneys.

5 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

A very dark day, equal justice I think not.

Dark day for who? Not for justice as it is being served correctly after a thorough investigation and a grand jury review with the recommendation to indict.  Tel us please how that is a miscarriage of justice and a dark day.  Dark day for trump as the clouds are darkening over him and his supporters.  Time to realize just who you have been played by.

4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

You got it..............lol

 

Trump sends out fundraising email saying he's been indicted

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/live-blog/live-updates-trump-classified-documents-florida-grand-jury-rcna88233#rcrd13831

Billionaire grifting off the people he claims to defend.

16 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

A very dark day, equal justice I think not.

My condolences.  My advice to you is to send money.  You will then receive many more e-mails from khun Trump....probably until the day you die (or whenever you run out of money, which ever comes first).