Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: Appearing Thursday night on CNN, Trump attorney James Trusty said the indictment includes charges of willful retention of national defense information — a crime under the Espionage Act, which polices the handling of government secrets — obstruction, false statements and conspiracy. https://apnews.com/article/trump-justice-department-indictment-classified-documents-miami-8315a5b23c18f27083ed64eef21efff3 Trusty, is absolutely correct and the jail term upon conviction will place the Donald into a Federal location, maybe Lompoc, or a Club Fed as some are known. He should fit right in and become the defacto leader of the club..... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2015/01/05/what-its-really-like-inside-club-fed-prisons/ “It’s kind of like a junior college setting,” explained Larry Levine, director and founder of Wall Street Prison Consultants, which advises clients before going into lock-up. “I don’t want to call it a stress-free environment, but it’s a lot of hanging out with the other inmates, you know, just bull—-ing.” 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post ballpoint Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 Twice impeached. First president to be indicted on a state charge. First president to be indicted on a federal charge. (And other cases still being investigated). Tired of winning yet? 2 2 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post earlinclaifornia Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 I predicted several months ago Trump will exit his candidacy by the end of this month. Now the wheels are rolling into a probable dream come true. GOP opponent calls on Trump to drop out after latest charges and ‘disrespect for the rule of law’ GOP opponent calls on Trump to drop out after latest charges and ‘disrespect for the rule of law’ (msn.com) 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 Good news. I was getting sick of the stupid "witch hunt" mantra from the MAGA cohort.. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said: I predicted several months ago Trump will exit his candidacy by the end of this month. Now the wheels are rolling into a probable dream come true. GOP opponent calls on Trump to drop out after latest charges and ‘disrespect for the rule of law’ GOP opponent calls on Trump to drop out after latest charges and ‘disrespect for the rule of law’ (msn.com) I don't see any evidence yet that Trump will exit the race short of him being put behind bars. He could still run in prison but I think even republicans will understand nominating a jailbird is a losing proposition. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, ballpoint said: Twice impeached. First president to be indicted on a state charge. First president to be indicted on a federal charge. (And other cases still being investigated). Tired of winning yet? They can't get enough "winning" 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Its a indictment but it feels more like political persecution against his supporters likeJordan , Donalds ,Graham , Grassly , Staffanic , Green , Gatze and hundreds of other Gop officials along withMillions of hard working Americans who just want to hold the unelected bureaucrats accountable!Thats what the declassified docs were all about imop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, JonnyF said: Whilst I believe this is politically motivated, I would be glad to see Trump stand down from politics. He's had his time, the future is DeSantis. The US needs fresh, younger blood than the current selection of stumbling, mumbling geriatrics on offer. It is not politically motivated. Nominating Trump is the best chance the democrats have to hold the presidency. Taking him out before he can be nominated is good for the republicans! Edited June 9, 2023 by Jingthing 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Tug said: 7 counts let’s hope that = 7 convictions!wonder if they pulled his passport and issued a no fly!it’s a good day for the rule of law! I want a perp walk! The public deserves a perp walk! 1 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 4 hours ago, jerrymahoney said: Well even though Miami-Dade County went for Biden in 2020, jury pool there would certainly be less hostile to Trump than New York City and environs. That's true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 3 hours ago, jerrymahoney said: ... or, I should have said, Washington DC. That being said the other side of the coin is this from a prosecutor's point of view. Former President Donald Trump will face charges in the Southern District of Florida, a venue whose reputation for swift proceedings has earned it "rocket docket" status -- a colloquialism that reflects its strict adherence to the speedy trial clock. The judges in the Southern District of Florida adhere very strictly to the Speedy Trial clock, which, with limited exceptions, requires trial or conviction to occur within 70 days." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, earlinclaifornia said: That being said the other side of the coin is this from a prosecutor's point of view. Former President Donald Trump will face charges in the Southern District of Florida, a venue whose reputation for swift proceedings has earned it "rocket docket" status -- a colloquialism that reflects its strict adherence to the speedy trial clock. The judges in the Southern District of Florida adhere very strictly to the Speedy Trial clock, which, with limited exceptions, requires trial or conviction to occur within 70 days." Rhe specualtion on CNN is 6 months and depending on the judge and any delay motions could take it into the election season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, riclag said: Its a indictment but it feels more like political persecution against his supporters likeJordan , Donalds ,Graham , Grassly , Staffanic , Green , Gatze and hundreds of other Gop officials along withMillions of hard working Americans who just want to hold the unelected bureaucrats accountable!Thats what the declassified docs were all about imop "Millions of hard working Americans who just want to hold the unelected bureaucrats accountable!Thats what the declassified docs were all about imop" What declassified documents and how does holding Trump accountable for the theft of government documents have anything to do with unelected bureaucrats? 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, riclag said: Its a indictment but it feels more like political persecution against his supporters likeJordan , Donalds ,Graham , Grassly , Staffanic , Green , Gatze and hundreds of other Gop officials along withMillions of hard working Americans who just want to hold the unelected bureaucrats accountable!Thats what the declassified docs were all about imop Can you explain how you came to the belief that the classified documents were declassified and he was able to keep them in his possession, without it first being cleared through the National Archives? I am aghast that there are people who still believe this mans lies and his mantra..... 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Rhe specualtion on CNN is 6 months and depending on the judge and any delay motions could take it into the election season. He will be running from Trial to trial it appears. Maybe he will set up his political stops on his way in between each jurisdiction. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 49 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Appearing Thursday night on CNN, Trump attorney James Trusty said the indictment includes charges of willful retention of national defense information — a crime under the Espionage Act, which polices the handling of government secrets — obstruction, false statements and conspiracy. https://apnews.com/article/trump-justice-department-indictment-classified-documents-miami-8315a5b23c18f27083ed64eef21efff3 A rational defendant would negotiate a plea: "Guarantee I don't serve time and I won't insist secrets be revealed in court." I assume that is what Gen Patreus did. I don't think "rational defendant" apples to Trump. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riclag Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 Trump didnt steal documents !As Potus he declassified them in a memo! He was negotiating with gov agencies as had been reported! Now its in the courts hands! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, heybruce said: A rational defendant would negotiate a plea: "Guarantee I don't serve time and I won't insist secrets be revealed in court." I assume that is what Gen Patreus did. I don't think "rational defendant" apples to Trump. That is exactly what his lawyers should have done in last week's meeting. The claim is now that Trump is 100% going to be the nominee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, riclag said: Trump didnt steal documents !As Potus he declassified them in a memo! He was negotiating with gov agencies as had been reported! Now its in the courts hands! Really, so what was Trump talking about in the audio recording they have? "Federal prosecutors have obtained an audio recording of a summer 2021 meeting in which former President Donald Trump acknowledges he held onto a classified Pentagon document about a potential attack on Iran, multiple sources told CNN, undercutting his argument that he declassified everything. The recording indicates Trump understood he retained classified material after leaving the White House, according to multiple sources familiar with the investigation. On the recording, Trump’s comments suggest he would like to share the information but he’s aware of limitations on his ability post-presidency to declassify records, two of the sources said." https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/31/politics/trump-tape-classified-document-iran-milley/index.html Besides which, the espionage act, presidential records act etc does not matter if docs are declassified or not. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LaosLover Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 MAGA = My A* Got Arrested. 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, riclag said: Trump didnt steal documents !As Potus he declassified them in a memo! He was negotiating with gov agencies as had been reported! Now its in the courts hands! If he had been negotiating and turning the documents over as you say, there would never have been an investigation, and no it was not and is not being done as a political hack job. Look at the evidence. If there was no evidence a grand jury never would have decided there was enough evidence to indict. You really are not looking very clearly at the situation. 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LaosLover Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 Two questions: 1) Will a single trump delusional loser here toss him any donation in his gravest hour of need even equal to a single happy-hour Chang? (No) 2) Lady-boy imitator, Kari Lake, has urged all other Republican candidates to suspend their candidacies immediately to show support for Trump. Will any do so? (No). -Mannish Kari cuts right to the chase: If you're running against him and you bemoan this shocking miscarriage of justice, then why are you running against him? Pence didn't do Hannity tonight. They're all running scared. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vandeventer Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 A very dark day, equal justice I think not. 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, vandeventer said: A very dark day, equal justice I think not. Many Trump cult members welcome such indictments. They think playing the persecuted will help him win. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, LaosLover said: Two questions: 1) Will a single trump delusional loser here toss him any donation in his gravest hour of need even equal to a single happy-hour Chang? (No) 2) Lady-boy imitator, Kari Lake, has urged all other Republican candidates to suspend their candidacies immediately to show support for Trump. Will any do so? (No). -Mannish Kari cuts right to the chase: If you're running against him and you bemoan this shocking miscarriage of justice, then why are you running against him? Pence didn't do Hannity tonight. They're all running scared. Can you clarify your post please. Who exactly are you referring to as Running Scared? Trumps supporters? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LaosLover Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 I predict his biggest fundraiser weekend ever. Soak those morons. Only one of his lawyers is legal to practice in Florida. He went from D-list representation to now D-list representation with a lot of empty seats. And some of his lawyers may now ve witnesses. MAGA = My Attorneys Get Attorneys. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, vandeventer said: A very dark day, equal justice I think not. Dark day for who? Not for justice as it is being served correctly after a thorough investigation and a grand jury review with the recommendation to indict. Tel us please how that is a miscarriage of justice and a dark day. Dark day for trump as the clouds are darkening over him and his supporters. Time to realize just who you have been played by. 8 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: You got it..............lol Trump sends out fundraising email saying he's been indicted https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/live-blog/live-updates-trump-classified-documents-florida-grand-jury-rcna88233#rcrd13831 Billionaire grifting off the people he claims to defend. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berkshire Posted June 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, vandeventer said: A very dark day, equal justice I think not. My condolences. My advice to you is to send money. You will then receive many more e-mails from khun Trump....probably until the day you die (or whenever you run out of money, which ever comes first). 6 1 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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