scottiejohn Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jingthing said: I see it as fake manufactured outrage. I see it as fake manufactured and insulting word. I get the point that YOU want to USE it. I wish you would get the point that I DON'T want to HEAR or READ it. Can't you just shut up and get back to the OP! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longwood50 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: Cisgender does not refer to sex. The word is about getting identity. Woof woof. Now you can call someone anything you want. That does not change the fact that biologically there are only XX and XY Chromosones. The fact that a person self identifies as a horse does not make them an Equine. For centuries, the practice of "identifying" was known as pretending. That is actually what is still is. Cisgender denoting or relating to a person whose gender identity corresponds with the sex registered for them at birth; not transgender. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: I see it as fake manufactured and insulting word. I get the point that YOU want to USE it. I wish you would get the point that I DON'T want to HEAR or READ it. Can't you just shut up and get back to the OP! Such a hysterical reaction to a neutral adjective. Thats your problem. Not mine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Longwood50 said: Now you can call someone anything you want. That does not change the fact that biologically there are only XX and XY Chromosones. The fact that a person self identifies as a horse does not make them an Equine. For centuries, the practice of "identifying" was known as pretending. That is actually what is still is. Cisgender denoting or relating to a person whose gender identity corresponds with the sex registered for them at birth; not transgender. Yes that is the definition of cisgender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: I see it as fake manufactured and insulting word. I get the point that YOU want to USE it. I wish you would get the point that I DON'T want to HEAR or READ it. Can't you just shut up and get back to the OP! You need a safe space from the nasty word? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Just now, PremiumLane said: You need a safe space from the nasty word? There's a rumor that it bites and has rabies. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Longwood50 said: Now you can call someone anything you want. That does not change the fact that biologically there are only XX and XY Chromosones. The fact that a person self identifies as a horse does not make them an Equine. For centuries, the practice of "identifying" was known as pretending. That is actually what is still is. Cisgender denoting or relating to a person whose gender identity corresponds with the sex registered for them at birth; not transgender. You really should look up about sex being bimodal for a start. Again, have to repeat it, sex and gender are not the same. If you think identifying as a gender that has clear characteristics and social norms that people follow, is somehow like identifying as a horse, just shows a low IQ Edited June 30, 2023 by PremiumLane 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG1 Blue Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, PremiumLane said: You need a safe space from the nasty word? There are plenty of words for gay men that you would object to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, PremiumLane said: You really should look up about sex being bimodal for a start. Again, have to repeat it, sex and gender are not the same. If you think identifying as a gender that has clear characteristics and social norms that people follow, is somehow like identifying as a horse, just shows a low IQ No comment on IQ but it does reflect willful ignorance and a reactionary political stance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Just now, CG1 Blue said: There are plenty of words for gay men that you would object to. Actual slurs. Cisgender not a slur. Big difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitPudding Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 35 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Cisgender does not refer to sex. The word is about gender identity. Woof woof. Please don't tell me you identify as a canine now? ???? ???? Woof 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, FruitPudding said: Please don't tell me you identify as a canine now? ???? ???? Woof OK I won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 38 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Cisgender does not refer to sex. The word is about gender identity. Woof woof. So that would be a bit redundant, unless there is a new definition of 'gender' I'm not aware of. I'm old school, and tire of people changing the meaning or applying words incorrectly to fit their spin. Somehow, people just seem to accept and or force it onto others. It really is getting silly. Gender is the sex (male/female) at birth. You don't get to choose your gender. What is your gender/sex at birth ... means the same thing. Origin is from Latin - Genus. Again, people, in 1980s & 90s, decided to use it differently. About same time someone invented or decided to use 'cis' in conjunction with gender. The silliness remains. What new words will people attempt to force us to use in the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: Such a hysterical reaction to a neutral adjective. Thats your problem. Not mine. You are making it my problem by making nonsensical posts after post after posts. Give it a bloody rest. You are just trolling now.. I do not know how often I have asked this and never received a sensible answer but just one last time! Why must you keep on and on and on about a word that many people do not want to be referred to/as? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 52 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said: There are plenty of words for gay men that you would object to. Cis was never devised as a slut though, was it? And you will find the gay community has coopted those words, so no I wouldn't have a problem with them. See, I am not a snowflake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 58 minutes ago, PremiumLane said: You need a safe space from the nasty word? No I need a safe space from the nasty bigoted idiots who are just deliberately prolonging the promotion of this meaningless word! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Just now, PremiumLane said: Cis was never devised as a slut though, was it? And you will find the gay community has coopted those words, so no I wouldn't have a problem with them. See, I am not a snowflake. Was the highlighted (by me) word deliberate? ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 minute ago, scottiejohn said: No I need a safe space from the nasty bigoted idiots who are just deliberately prolonging the promotion of this meaningless word! So, basically you have made up something in your head to get angry about, well done. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Just now, scottiejohn said: Was the highlighted (by me) word deliberate? ???? nah, it is called a typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, PremiumLane said: So, basically you have made up something in your head to get angry about, well done. No you lot made up the meaningless and pointless word! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) I'm sticking with the oldies but goodies: Straight/Heterosexual Gay BiSexual Do we need any more ? Although, saying that, I do prefer PanSexual, all inclusive, and I've learned, 'never to say never' ... as that expression is against my religion; Raëlism In your mind, and mind only, if you want to 'trans' into something else, feel free, but you're still a male or female @ birth & now, no matter what you think, but imagine you want to be afterward. On Topic, as always ???? the doc will only care if you are a male or female, the same thing that's on you admission/registration form. Keep it simple. Edited June 30, 2023 by KhunLA 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, KhunLA said: So that would be a bit redundant, unless there is a new definition of 'gender' I'm not aware of. I'm old school, and tire of people changing the meaning or applying words incorrectly to fit their spin. Somehow, people just seem to accept and or force it onto others. It really is getting silly. Gender is the sex (male/female) at birth. You don't get to choose your gender. What is your gender/sex at birth ... means the same thing. Origin is from Latin - Genus. Again, people, in 1980s & 90s, decided to use it differently. About same time someone invented or decided to use 'cis' in conjunction with gender. The silliness remains. What new words will people attempt to force us to use in the future. I said gender identity. Not gender. But that didn't suit your agenda so you ignored it. Force? Hilarious. Edited June 30, 2023 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: No you lot made up the meaningleiss and pointless word! It has a definition previously posted and if you think it's pointless don't use it. Sorted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 34 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: No I need a safe space from the nasty bigoted idiots who are just deliberately prolonging the promotion of this meaningless word! Nothing bigoted about using the word cisgender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 41 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: You are making it my problem by making nonsensical posts after post after posts. Give it a bloody rest. You are just trolling now.. I do not know how often I have asked this and never received a sensible answer but just one last time! Why must you keep on and on and on about a word that many people do not want to be referred to/as? So I should be bullied by you? Fat chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 An off topic video has been removed. This topic has degenerated into a bickering match. Agree to disagree or move on. Further bickering and any off topic posts will be removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longwood50 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 13 hours ago, PremiumLane said: You really should look up about sex being bimodal for a start. Again, have to repeat it, sex and gender are not the same. If you think identifying as a gender that has clear characteristics and social norms that people follow, is somehow like identifying as a horse, just shows a low IQ I would suggest that anyone who believes that there are more than two genders pretty well establishes that persons intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 20 minutes ago, Longwood50 said: I would suggest that anyone who believes that there are more than two genders pretty well establishes that persons intelligence. More like the opposite. How Many Genders Are There? A Full Identity & Expression List (healthline.com) Quote Gender and sex do not have the same meaning. One is social, and the other is biological. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Longwood50 said: I would suggest that anyone who believes that there are more than two genders pretty well establishes that persons intelligence. See? Really smart people all know that wearing a dress makes you a women, and only straight men "date" ladyboys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) Again, docs care about one thing, if you are male or female, as treatment is different for different ailments that only each may have. Here's to add to the silliness, as if a doc needs to be told, you don't identify with any or multiple genders ???? Edited July 1, 2023 by KhunLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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