Popular Post webfact Posted July 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2023 The political machinations within the landscape of Thailand are akin to the rolling of dice in an unpredictable and often treacherous game of chance. One mustn’t be precipitous nor naive, particularly when the scepter of power is at stake. The Move Forward Party (MFP), a relatively new political force, finds itself maneuvering in these complex waters. Their recent setbacks underscore the necessity for a measured political coming-of-age, one underpinned by careful judgment and prudence. As Pheu Thai introduces Wan Muhamad Noor Matha into the consideration for house speaker, it’s an instructive moment for MFP. The party’s overzealous public statements, their premature announcements, and a cavalier attitude have exposed a lack of political maturity. It’s as if they’ve willingly handed Pheu Thai a strategic advantage, thus underlining their inability to keep their own counsel. The MFP’s strategic missteps reflect an adolescent sense of invulnerability. When Rangsiman Rome proposed to change the National Day, they further strained the already taut threads of public sentiment – an unnecessary challenge ahead of delicate political negotiations. High-profile figures within the party firing broadsides on social media have been counterproductive. By Arun Saronchai #news Full story: https://www.thaienquirer.com/50104/to-proceed-mfp-must-show-more-political-maturity/ -- © Copyright Thai Enquirer 2023-07-03 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bannork Posted July 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2023 MF supporters booing PT leaders when they arrived at MF HQ for negotiations yesterday 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brickleberry Posted July 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, bannork said: MF supporters booing PT leaders when they arrived at MF HQ for negotiations yesterday This is to be expected. Wouldn't you boo if you saw through all of their platitudes, bargains and backroom deals? I know I would... PT will likely be the party that forms the next government. Is the Thai Enquirer owned by China Daily? Their writing sounds a lot like the CCP's mouthpiece lately. Edited July 3, 2023 by Brickleberry spelling 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bob smith Posted July 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) it all boils down to education. most thais don't even know what the word democracy means. Edited July 3, 2023 by bogs smith 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted July 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2023 K Arun, my challenge to you is to write an article on the maturity of the establishment and military to recognize the changing landscape and the voices of the people. The cycle of political impasse from repeating coups and attempts to dominate have not yield any improvement of the political structure , massive lost of economic potential and has created deep income inequality division. 7 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted July 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2023 2 hours ago, webfact said: The Move Forward Party (MFP), a relatively new political force, finds itself maneuvering in these complex waters. Their recent setbacks underscore the necessity for a measured political coming-of-age, one underpinned by careful judgment and prudence. The only way to gain experience is to sit in the drivers seat... Go MFP 4 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post newbee2022 Posted July 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2023 2 hours ago, webfact said: The political machinations within the landscape of Thailand are akin to the rolling of dice in an unpredictable and often treacherous game of chance. One mustn’t be precipitous nor naive, particularly when the scepter of power is at stake. The Move Forward Party (MFP), a relatively new political force, finds itself maneuvering in these complex waters. Their recent setbacks underscore the necessity for a measured political coming-of-age, one underpinned by careful judgment and prudence. As Pheu Thai introduces Wan Muhamad Noor Matha into the consideration for house speaker, it’s an instructive moment for MFP. The party’s overzealous public statements, their premature announcements, and a cavalier attitude have exposed a lack of political maturity. It’s as if they’ve willingly handed Pheu Thai a strategic advantage, thus underlining their inability to keep their own counsel. The MFP’s strategic missteps reflect an adolescent sense of invulnerability. When Rangsiman Rome proposed to change the National Day, they further strained the already taut threads of public sentiment – an unnecessary challenge ahead of delicate political negotiations. High-profile figures within the party firing broadsides on social media have been counterproductive. By Arun Saronchai #news Full story: https://www.thaienquirer.com/50104/to-proceed-mfp-must-show-more-political-maturity/ -- © Copyright Thai Enquirer 2023-07-03 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. I strongly disagree! Maturity doesn't come by age (only). Look at that 80 year old Joe Biden or this fragile Prawit. Aren't they not mature or already childish? Who knows? ???? 3 2 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Dont blame them they are just kids...l 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted July 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2023 20 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: I strongly disagree! Maturity doesn't come by age (only). Look at that 80 year old Joe Biden or this fragile Prawit. Aren't they not mature or already childish? Who knows? ???? Never heard them whine about stolen election like a petulant child. 1 1 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kuma Posted July 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2023 2 hours ago, bogs smith said: it all boils down to education. most thais don't even know what the word democracy means. oh and there are sage people from the cw that can school them is that the implication? Ha, if so. There are no good examples of properly functioning 'democracies' in the english speaking world, currently, imo 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 43 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: I strongly disagree! Maturity doesn't come by age (only). Look at that 80 year old Joe Biden or this fragile Prawit. Aren't they not mature or already childish? Who knows? ???? usually comes with age....for some it comes never....and some go back in time when they get senile. But some age is important...with 15 everyone is childish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 3 hours ago, bogs smith said: it all boils down to education. most thais don't even know what the word democracy means. no it comes more from work....not from school. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 The MF leaders are naive and fall into traps like lemmings. If i hear one more quote saying how confident someone is that nothing will happen I will have to admit Move Forward is not the party Thailand needs, just the one it wants. 1 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, newbee2022 said: I strongly disagree! Maturity doesn't come by age (only). Look at that 80 year old Joe Biden or this fragile Prawit. Aren't they not mature or already childish? Who knows? ???? You're comparing a golden eagle to a frog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeMachine Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Who has the friendship of the military wins. Guns beats everything really. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted July 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2023 Quote To proceed, MFP must show more political maturity in other words, MFP has to start offering bribes and show signs of corruption which then gives the impression of Thai political maturity. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted July 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2023 And then there’s the regrettable incident of July 2. The spectacle of MFP’s fans berating senior Pheu Thai strategists, After reading the news, I think the above was wrongly reported. It was not berating but actually asking the Pheu Thai Party not to abandon their promise to form a government with the MFP. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Brickleberry said: This is to be expected. Wouldn't you boo if you saw through all of their platitudes, bargains and backroom deals? I know I would... PT will likely be the party that forms the next government. Is the Thai Enquirer owned by China Daily? Their writing sounds a lot like the CCP's mouthpiece lately. I've followed Thai Enquirer's stylings for quite some time and appears that their policies tend to favour a Shinawatra stronghold. Have to wonder if a particular underwriting influence has their ear..... A Thai media source that promotes itself for an English readership [and mindset] should always be suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 2 hours ago, kuma said: oh and there are sage people from the cw that can school them is that the implication? Ha, if so. There are no good examples of properly functioning 'democracies' in the english speaking world, currently, imo As there never has been in practice. Much more oligarchy and plutocracy in nature than anything democratic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke1959 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) The last Government had a lack of everything, how dare they say MFP is to show more political maturity?? Anutin and Prawit and Prayuth even had no clue anything, if you heard them talking and saw the acting to questions. Besides that there are more people who are not suitable for their functions Edited July 3, 2023 by ikke1959 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 3 hours ago, hotchilli said: The only way to gain experience is to sit in the drivers seat... Go MFP Indeed. The irony might be missed by many. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 6 hours ago, webfact said: One mustn’t be precipitous nor naive, particularly when the scepter of power is at stake. Power isn't at stake - the election has completed, the results are in and that's the end of it - anything other than that is interferring with the electoral process. If the people decide to vote for morons then that's up to them - there are no requirements of maturity or anything else to holding power other than somehow cobbling together a majority of MPs in the house and following the rules of parliament which can be altered accordingly by the MPs. Any suggestion otherwise is complete nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveE13 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 What MFP need to show maturity on the level with military government is have a convicted drug smuggler in their first cabinet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 16 hours ago, Srikcir said: You're comparing a golden eagle to a frog. Hmmh, I was thinking about it.....but who is who?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 21 hours ago, webfact said: The Move Forward Party (MFP), a relatively new political force, finds itself maneuvering in these complex waters. Their recent setbacks underscore the necessity for a measured political coming-of-age, one underpinned by careful judgment and prudence. Code for not engaging in the nessacery for Thai politics level of corruption and nepotism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 17 hours ago, klauskunkel said: in other words, MFP has to start offering bribes and show signs of corruption which then gives the impression of Thai political maturity. I am sure they have learned that already.....else they would been a 1% party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 15 hours ago, ikke1959 said: The last Government had a lack of everything, how dare they say MFP is to show more political maturity?? Anutin and Prawit and Prayuth even had no clue anything, if you heard them talking and saw the acting to questions. Besides that there are more people who are not suitable for their functions But they didn't had big projects...so they didn't do much harm.....But MFP want to change everything and having no clue of anything. To be stupid is no problem if you are lazy....but it is if someone is hard working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 15 hours ago, ukrules said: Power isn't at stake - the election has completed, the results are in and that's the end of it - anything other than that is interferring with the electoral process. If the people decide to vote for morons then that's up to them - there are no requirements of maturity or anything else to holding power other than somehow cobbling together a majority of MPs in the house and following the rules of parliament which can be altered accordingly by the MPs. Any suggestion otherwise is complete nonsense. Theoretically yes.....But if people vote for an Adolf Hitler, also these people who didn't vote for them have the consequences. 28% of the voter did vote for MFP. All others didn't vote or vote different but still have at least to pay for the nonsense this government will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamnutsak Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Immature, child-like op-ed piece. Thai Enquirer excels at these. The author seems to find fault with nearly every statement and activity made by MFP in this tenuous period, post election. MFP is "acting" just as they said they would when they presented their platform, and received their electoral mandate. Pita et al are expressing confidence, since when is that a bad thing? If the ultra-nationalists can't take a bit of tweaking from, for example Rome on the national day thing, then they need thicker skin. I'm sure the author will also pen an op-ed piece on the powers that be doing all they can to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power? And I'm sure they wrote something similar when PPP steam-rolled their way to power in 2019. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Perhaps in this instance mature is a coded word for corrupt, bent, moral sacrifice, broken ethics, bought and paid for, and working within a system of patronage. Their relative youth and lack of capitulation is what the people want. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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