2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

No, I want one. I know the leftist talking points, what I don't know is how it's undermining democracy. 

 

When the Democrats change voting rules, gerrymander, attempt to overturn elections, lies and changes finance laws it's democracy in action. 

As a general rule, the Democrats don't disenfranchise any group, whereas the Republicans do.  They close voting sites in predominately minority areas.  A good example is the many attempts to limit mail-in voting.  Then there is the Georgia controversial voting law known as Senate Bill 202.

But we are straying from the topic.

35 minutes ago, EastBayRay said:

Interesting that this news comes only one week after we discovered that Hunter has been omitted from White House visitor logs.

 

Not saying something is amiss but the lack of information surrounding the movements of someone with a prolific history of illicit drug addiction certainly makes the investigation into the source of the substance more difficult.

As has repeatedly been pointed out, this 'discovery" was basically an invention the Fox News. As Fox News itself acknowledged in the body of the article, the White House publicly published policy has been to exempt all family members from the White House log unless they are engaged in official business. Hunter Biden was not given  unique treatment. Maybe Fox was counting on the poor reading skills of its news consumers so that they would confine themselves to the headline only and not venture into the daunting task of reading the body of the text.

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

When the white powder was found I'm sure the folks were concerned perhaps it was something more sinister and had it tested as they should have. At that point it would of been kinda hard to keep secret.

 

Well apparently they had suspicions of what it was straight away:

 

Secret Service agents found the powder Sunday during a routine sweep of the White House; it was in a small, clear plastic bag on the floor in a heavily trafficked area, according to three people

 

Officials immediately suspected the powder was an illicit drug because of how it was packaged, two of the unnamed sources said.

 

Many staffers and official visitors enter the White House through the lobby where the drug was found.

 

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2023-07-05/suspicious-powder-white-house-cocaine-biden-away

https://archive.ph/3JQ5I

17 minutes ago, onthedarkside said:

 

Well apparently they had suspicions of what it was straight away:

 

Secret Service agents found the powder Sunday during a routine sweep of the White House; it was in a small, clear plastic bag on the floor in a heavily trafficked area, according to three people

 

Officials immediately suspected the powder was an illicit drug because of how it was packaged, two of the unnamed sources said.

 

Many staffers and official visitors enter the White House through the lobby where the drug was found.

 

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2023-07-05/suspicious-powder-white-house-cocaine-biden-away

https://archive.ph/3JQ5I

Regardless of opinions, testing the white powder to rule out a nasty chemical verve agent I would think should be a priority. That's the world we live in, 

8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Well, you would expect supporters of campaign finance restrictions just to lie down and let the right wing spend billions unopposed? Really?

they could use this as a campaign point to crush the republicans though no ? we don't take money from bla bla bla could be a huge point to stand on.

 

show how you are better (dem party) by not involving yourself in the same game. 

2 minutes ago, stoner said:

are they not appointed and put into those positions generally because of how good they have shown to be at their job ? regardless of the political party are they not supposed to represent the best of american justice ? 

I think you'll find they're all political appointees.

29 minutes ago, stoner said:

remind me again how much is costs either side to win a presidency ?

 

could you also link to these campaign reform measures please. i would like to read about the proposals made by the dems on this subject. 

thanks. 

Well, I think you could do your own research because this is starting to stay way far afield, but here's one link to tide you over:   https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/553835-gop-resistance-to-election-reforms-shows-disregard-for-us-voters/

 

2 minutes ago, stoner said:

you just linked an opinion piece. 

 

 

That comes with direct source links as to how  that opinion was formed.

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

That comes with direct source links to that opinion

so both sides stop using the money. simple. 

21 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

That comes with direct source links as to how  that opinion was formed.

But is in an opinion, which can vary greatly depending on one's ideology, regardless of the source links and whatnot, yes? 

 

 

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

But is in an opinion, which can vary greatly depending on one's ideology, regardless of the source links and whatnot, yes? 

 

 

Yes of course. Its up to you if you want to click on the links to the facts contained in the source

Op was locked to cleanup Off-topic and troll posts.. Posts which have Hijacked the thread and taken this OP off completely off of its story. 

 

The OP is:

 

Suspected cocaine found at White House sparking evacuation

5 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Cocaine found in the White House, could belong to anybody. It could be the property of Hunter, who's to say. 

Well, not only camera surveillance but fingerprints and DNA. Should be a snap to find out who the cocaine belongs to--unless there is going to be another coverup.

1 hour ago, John Drake said:

Well, not only camera surveillance but fingerprints and DNA. Should be a snap to find out who the cocaine belongs to--unless there is going to be another coverup.

Another cover-up? 

2 hours ago, John Drake said:

Well, not only camera surveillance but fingerprints and DNA. Should be a snap to find out who the cocaine belongs to--unless there is going to be another coverup.

America needs to know the facts John!

A independent agency free from federal influences ,must conduct a investigation !

 The agency’s  under biden cant be trusted! Imop

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes of course. Its up to you if you want to click on the links to the facts contained in the source

That's hilarious. 

 

No, what I'm saying is, that an opinion piece is an opinion piece, regardless of what the facts are. 

 

For example, two people can look at the same facts and write two completly different articles. For example, if two people were writing about a 16-year-old child having their penis cut off and an artificial vagina constructed from parts of their colon, one writer might call it "gender affirming care", while the other might call it "genital mutilation". 

 

It's like when CNN calls it redistricting when talking about the left, and gerrymandering when talking about the right.  

17 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

That's hilarious. 

 

No, what I'm saying is, that an opinion piece is an opinion piece, regardless of what the facts are. 

 

For example, two people can look at the same facts and write two completly different articles. For example, if two people were writing about a 16-year-old child having their penis cut off and an artificial vagina constructed from parts of their colon, one writer might call it "gender affirming care", while the other might call it "genital mutilation". 

 

It's like when CNN calls it redistricting when talking about the left, and gerrymandering when talking about the right.  

Glad you found my post so amusing and yes I know exactly what you meant thanks. The sources are there for people who want to check and form their own opinions on the article.

3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

No, what I'm saying is, that an opinion piece is an opinion piece, regardless of what the facts are. 

 

For example, two people can look at the same facts and write two completly different articles. For example, if two people were writing about a 16-year-old child having their penis cut off and an artificial vagina constructed from parts of their colon, one writer might call it "gender affirming care", while the other might call it "genital mutilation". 

 

It's like when CNN calls it redistricting when talking about the left, and gerrymandering when talking about the right.  

Here. Straight from the 4 dissenting justices

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/08-205.ZX.html

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Here. Straight from the 4 dissenting justices

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/08-205.ZX.html

What does that have to do with my post? 

Now, back to the Peruvian Marching Powder....

ANy specifics? How much was in the bag, what would it cost, where specifically was it found, etc.

This could be a tempest, or a tempest in a teapot. Need more information. 

8 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Now, back to the Peruvian Marching Powder....

ANy specifics? How much was in the bag, what would it cost, where specifically was it found, etc.

This could be a tempest, or a tempest in a teapot. Need more information. 

Here's some more information:

Republicans Continue to Blame Hunter Biden for White House Cocaine Saga

The discovery of cocaine in the White House on Sunday has prompted several Republicans to hone in on President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, as a potential culprit—despite little evidence to suggest he was behind the discovery.

The small baggie of drugs was found in a high-traffic area of the West Wing where guests on tours of the building leave their phones and other belongings—while the president’s entire family was away on vacation for the Fourth of July weekend.

On Wednesday’s broadcast of Hannity, however, Rep. James Comer (R-KY) stated multiple times that he had concerns about Hunter Biden, who has openly spoken of a prior addiction to crack cocaine but claims to have been sober for years.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/republicans-waste-no-time-blaming-hunter-biden-for-white-house-cocaine-saga

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Here's some more information:

Republicans Continue to Blame Hunter Biden for White House Cocaine Saga

The discovery of cocaine in the White House on Sunday has prompted several Republicans to hone in on President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, as a potential culprit—despite little evidence to suggest he was behind the discovery.

The small baggie of drugs was found in a high-traffic area of the West Wing where guests on tours of the building leave their phones and other belongings—while the president’s entire family was away on vacation for the Fourth of July weekend.

On Wednesday’s broadcast of Hannity, however, Rep. James Comer (R-KY) stated multiple times that he had concerns about Hunter Biden, who has openly spoken of a prior addiction to crack cocaine but claims to have been sober for years.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/republicans-waste-no-time-blaming-hunter-biden-for-white-house-cocaine-saga

Thanks for that. From what I read, the area is not exactly fully public but used by journalists and certain guests, but not the general public. And the bag was "dime sized", so we aren't talking  about a half key in a sandwich bag.

18 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Thanks for that. From what I read, the area is not exactly fully public but used by journalists and certain guests, but not the general public. And the bag was "dime sized", so we aren't talking  about a half key in a sandwich bag.

We do know that if, and that's a big if, it were any staffers they would be fired as has happened previously when White House staffers were found to have taken cannabis (not in the white house) as it affects their security clearances

Edited July 6, 20233 yr by Bkk Brian

7 hours ago, John Drake said:

Well, not only camera surveillance but fingerprints and DNA. Should be a snap to find out who the cocaine belongs to--unless there is going to be another coverup.

What was the first coverup?

 

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Here's some more information:

Republicans Continue to Blame Hunter Biden for White House Cocaine Saga

The discovery of cocaine in the White House on Sunday has prompted several Republicans to hone in on President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, as a potential culprit—despite little evidence to suggest he was behind the discovery.

The small baggie of drugs was found in a high-traffic area of the West Wing where guests on tours of the building leave their phones and other belongings—while the president’s entire family was away on vacation for the Fourth of July weekend.

On Wednesday’s broadcast of Hannity, however, Rep. James Comer (R-KY) stated multiple times that he had concerns about Hunter Biden, who has openly spoken of a prior addiction to crack cocaine but claims to have been sober for years.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/republicans-waste-no-time-blaming-hunter-biden-for-white-house-cocaine-saga

However Rep James Comer (R-KY) has yet to come up with ANY proof that can be taken to a prosecutor and used as evidence against Hunter Biden.

 

quote from the link

 

"“We are concerned about the fact that the president’s son, who we’ve said for seven months now is a risk to our national security, is spending so much time in the White House,” Comer said."

 

Hunter Biden is NOT connected in anyway with the current administration so how can he be a risk to our national security?

 

Why would he spend a lot of his time at the White House?

 

Perhaps because his parents and family actually LIVE there.

 

Yet another nothing burger from Comer.