youreavinalaff Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gottfrid said: Just lay it off. Talk to your wife. Then you will find out that the first thing is too much salt or not, after it´s the preferred amount of pla ra or chilli. That´s why they go to a specific vendor. Exactly my point. It doesn't all " taste the same". Marinades vary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 38 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: Really? Jerk and Isaan are the same? Greek and French is the same? Cajun and Chinese is the same? No need for more. Point made. What are you talking about? Bbq pork is bbq pork. Satay is satay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 41 minutes ago, FruitPudding said: I know what it is. I didn't know where in Thailand it's from. But if it is supposed to be eaten with sticky rice, then it's Isaan. Sticky rice tastes like rice. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 50 minutes ago, bignok said: What are you talking about? Bbq pork is bbq pork. Satay is satay. Strange answer. You quote a comment I made regarding chicken marinades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, youreavinalaff said: Strange answer. You quote a comment I made regarding chicken marinades. Strange comment. They use the same sauces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, bignok said: Strange comment. They use the same sauces. That is the most uneducated, funny really, comment I've seen for a long time. I won't bother listing the myriad of different chicken marinades. I gave up teaching a few years ago. Educate yourself. Have a little "Google" of chicken marinades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: That is the most uneducated, funny really, comment I've seen for a long time. I won't bother listing the myriad of different chicken marinades. I gave up teaching a few years ago. Educate yourself. Have a little "Google" of chicken marinades. No thanks. Ive eaten all over Thailand and you are full of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, bignok said: No thanks. Ive eaten all over Thailand and you are full of it. The subject is marinades from around Thailand and the world. Once again, you get it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: The subject is marinades from around Thailand and the world. Once again, you get it wrong. Subject is Isaan food. You are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, bignok said: Subject is Isaan food. You are wrong. You quoted this comment of mine, part of a conversation with another poster about chicken marinades. I wrote: "Really? Jerk and Isaan are the same? Greek and French is the same? Cajun and Chinese is the same? No need for more. Point made". Your reply " What are you talking about? Bbq pork is bbq pork. Satay is satay." As you can see, the subject you joined in on was chicken marinades in Thailand and around the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 My screen says Isaan Food. Yours says chicken marinade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, bignok said: My screen says Isaan Food. Yours says chicken marinade. Your screen certainly did not say Isaan Food when you chose to quote me and question my comment and continued to do so. As I explained above. Edited September 12, 2023 by youreavinalaff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnydrops Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 On 7/22/2023 at 6:44 PM, proton said: My mrs watches this type of thing- while she's eating Mine also???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 7 hours ago, youreavinalaff said: I'm comparing ingredients from around the world. Ingredients that, when used correctly, enhance the taste of a dish. I know people who despise garlic. They don't complain when others use it in their cooking and insult them. My whole point on here has been, one person may not like a certain type of food. Doesn't make it rancid, disgusting or whatever to all As to your question, I'm fine. Thank you. Please, are you saying that Pla Ra is not rancid? Apparently, like you say, some people like rancid food, but it´s rotten and rancid fish as it has been standing out in the open for many month. Sometimes a year or more. They also eat it with maggots crawling in it, as I have seen with my own eyes. The worms have developed same way like they do in dead bodies. Then they say it´s extra good. That is the definition of rotten, rancid and disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 7 hours ago, youreavinalaff said: Exactly my point. It doesn't all " taste the same". Marinades vary. No, it was not exactly your point. You are missing something. You said that the ingredients in the marinades for the same food vary. It´s not soo much the ingredients that vary as most are using the same recipes. What change is how much they use of each one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, Gottfrid said: Please, are you saying that Pla Ra is not rancid? Apparently, like you say, some people like rancid food, but it´s rotten and rancid fish as it has been standing out in the open for many month. Sometimes a year or more. They also eat it with maggots crawling in it, as I have seen with my own eyes. The worms have developed same way like they do in dead bodies. Then they say it´s extra good. That is the definition of rotten, rancid and disgusting. In defense of pla ra, some of it is boiled first and not naturally allowed to ferment. I have since moved from Isaan and will only return for visits. Funny how most all Isaan food has that greenish color. Me, personally I don't think an outsider can learn to like it. I feel like this is something you learn very young. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: In defense of pla ra, some of it is boiled first and not naturally allowed to ferment. I have since moved from Isaan and will only return for visits. Funny how most all Isaan food has that greenish color. Me, personally I don't think an outsider can learn to like it. I feel like this is something you learn very young. Yeah, sure! You have to learn. If you no eat, you die. ???? Regarding the boiled Pla Ra, that is not something they use out in Isaan villages. There it´s bought from the big bucket at the market, or taken from a pot standing out under a small building or something. Edited September 13, 2023 by Gottfrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 10 hours ago, bignok said: Sticky rice tastes like rice. Beer taste like beer ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Just now, Hummin said: Beer taste like beer ???????? I dont get how Thais obsess over rice and noodles. Its just basic carbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, bignok said: I dont get how Thais obsess over rice and noodles. Its just basic carbs. Everything have its own characteristics, no doubt about it. A potato, is not just a potato, and coming from a farm where we had 4 different potato, it is a magnificent difference when to use, and to which dishes. Isan food in south, is one of the better options actually, and not because southern food is not tasty, but how they make Isaan food for the local taste make it special. In Isaan, it is very few dishes I eat locally, and it is always mix, to make it tasty for me. I'm lucky who have a wife who is creative and listen, and also willing to make adjustments for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 14 hours ago, FruitPudding said: What's not to like? Unfortunately, in 95% of rural Issan your not going to have a selection or choice of "juicy meats" or the savory dishes you mentioned. You"ll find those at the big night markets in Khon Kaen or Udon Thani. Many rural parts of Issan, even there night markets are very limited due to the intense poverty. Even the Tesco's or mini'C run out of pork or chicken for some reason. Living here I find the most infuriating thing is the lack of descent vegetables and fruit. It's if most of Issan gets the dregs of the delivery's and what rural Issan doesn't want the ship to Laos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitPudding Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 38 minutes ago, MrJ2U said: Unfortunately, in 95% of rural Issan your not going to have a selection or choice of "juicy meats" or the savory dishes you mentioned. You"ll find those at the big night markets in Khon Kaen or Udon Thani. Many rural parts of Issan, even there night markets are very limited due to the intense poverty. Even the Tesco's or mini'C run out of pork or chicken for some reason. Living here I find the most infuriating thing is the lack of descent vegetables and fruit. It's if most of Issan gets the dregs of the delivery's and what rural Issan doesn't want the ship to Laos. Well, I lived in an Isaan village for the best part of a decade (about 40km outside a city) The villagers ate plenty of grilled pork and chicken. Various larb meats were available, including beef. Chicken soup, fish soup. Eggs galore. I do agree that I felt we didn't eat enough fruit n veggies, except bamboo,mushrooms, and eggplants. We had a Sunday market at our nearby amphur with all the meats and there would also be trucks driving around every few days selling it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, FruitPudding said: Well, I lived in an Isaan village for the best part of a decade (about 40km outside a city) The villagers ate plenty of grilled pork and chicken. Various larb meats were available, including beef. Chicken soup, fish soup. Eggs galore. I do agree that I felt we didn't eat enough fruit n veggies, except bamboo,mushrooms, and eggplants. We had a Sunday market at our nearby amphur with all the meats and there would also be trucks driving around every few days selling it Beef! That's even hard to find at the Topps in Sakon Nakhon. Certain areas definitely have better markets. Ours, unfortunately is hit and miss. Not many chickens here at the moment because of a "virus" has decimated the ones running around. Plenty of fresh dog meat available though if that's your thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 34 minutes ago, MrJ2U said: Certain areas definitely have better markets. Ours, unfortunately is hit and miss. Finally. Thanks for acknowledging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 hour ago, MrJ2U said: Unfortunately, in 95% of rural Issan your not going to have a selection or choice of "juicy meats" or the savory dishes you mentioned. You"ll find those at the big night markets in Khon Kaen or Udon Thani. Many rural parts of Issan, even there night markets are very limited due to the intense poverty. Even the Tesco's or mini'C run out of pork or chicken for some reason. Living here I find the most infuriating thing is the lack of descent vegetables and fruit. It's if most of Issan gets the dregs of the delivery's and what rural Issan doesn't want the ship to Laos. A post you've totally contradicted in your next post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: A post you've totally contradicted in your next post. I'm saying most of Issan sucks for food choice. Unless you live on the outskirts or within a large Issan city your diet will probably lead to diabetes and/or slow agonizing death. If the diet doesn't kill you boredom will! "Thai food’s bold blend of flavours: A culinary delight with a fatal bite" https://thethaiger.com/news/national/thai-foods-bold-blend-of-flavours-a-culinary-delight-with-a-fatal-bite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, MrJ2U said: I'm saying most of Issan sucks for food choice. Unless you live on the outskirts or within a large Issan city your diet will probably lead to diabetes and/or slow agonizing death. If the diet doesn't kill you boredom will! "Thai food’s bold blend of flavours: A culinary delight with a fatal bite" https://thethaiger.com/news/national/thai-foods-bold-blend-of-flavours-a-culinary-delight-with-a-fatal-bite Your article talks about KhonKaen. That's a big city. It is an article about " Thai food". Not Isaan food. You've already pointed out certain areas have more choice. I agree. In my experience of living in Issan; Korat, MSK, Buriram, Surin, KhonKean, Kalasin, Yasothon, Amnat Charoen, Roiet, Sissaket all have great markets, both night and day. All places have Makro and BigC. Some have Robinson with Tops. Your 95% and use of the word " most" are inverted. I don’t remember seeing the mass deaths from diet or boredom. Maybe you can show evidence. Really. If you truly believe what you say, move. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: move. Simple. Do you have a spare room? Sounds like your living the dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, MrJ2U said: Do you have a spare room? Sounds like your living the dream. Our home is in Isaan. You wouldn't like the food. Edited September 13, 2023 by youreavinalaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 4 hours ago, bignok said: I dont get how Thais obsess over rice and noodles. Its just basic carbs. It's cheap. It's not unlike poor areas in the US. There stuck buying food at dollar stores and bargain outlets. Issan is terribly impoverished. There not going to stock high quality meats, vegetables, fruits, etc., if nobody can afford them. Diabetes and Fatty's abound in Issan, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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