Does money make YOU happy?

[FruitPudding]

For me: yeah, money makes me happy.

[spidermike007]

22 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

But then nothing can actually make a person happy, fulfilled, or content, as everything is just external stimuli that we process consciously or subconsciously and then we have a positive, negative, or neutral reaction to the feeling that it gives us.

 

I never said money cannot be helpful, in having a more fulfilling life. I consider fulfillment to be one of the primary elements required in order to be happy. But, happiness is simply too abstract and impossible to measure.

[retarius]

Great topic, thank you Bob, and the commenters. Having read the comments I have nothing more to add.

[LaosLover]

Eating out every night here in a decent restaurant is the greatest thing that ever happened to me with my clothes on.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, LaosLover said:

Eating out every night here in a decent restaurant is the greatest thing that ever happened to me with my clothes on.

Don't stop there, what was the best thing that happened to you with your clothes off?

[LaosLover]

8 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Don't stop there, what was the best thing that happened to you with your clothes off?

Sadly, gotta be my wife.

 

Good looking AND into me. At 70, those planets won't likely align again.

[bignok]

7 hours ago, bob smith said:

its definitely better to have 2baht instead of 1 ???? 

Great news. Ive got 25 baht.

[bignok]

6 hours ago, chuang said:

Money makes the world goes round.

It's better to be crying in a Rolls Royce that be happy on a bicycle.

Thats not true. A lot of rich people are miserable and bike riding boosts chemicals which make you feel better. None of the rich people I met were more happy than a average person and mostly nasty back stabbers. Rich people know other rich people and mostly slag each other off. You heard of Andrew Forest? I knew people who knew him and were always having a go at him. Very few nice rich people. Money and power goes to their heads.

 

Gina Rinehart was the richest women ib the world at one stage. Never happy and spent years havibg court battles to stop her kids inheriting money too early.

[GammaGlobulin]

Somehow, I suspect that no amount of money could ever make YOU happy.

 

Edited August 31, 2023 by GammaGlobulin

[AnnaBanana]

[GammaGlobulin]

8 hours ago, bob smith said:

ive been quite rich

Does anyone here believe that...Our Boy Bob even knows....

 

The meaning of the word "rich"?

 

Not just financially...

But in so many other important ways, as well.

 

To Our Boy Bob, his idea of being financially rich might be enough loose change in his pocket just to make his jeans bulge a bit.

 

What is Our Boy Bob's idea of wealth, for that matter?

 

One million USD?

Ten million USD?

100 million USD?

Property around the globe?

 

C'mon Bob!

Spill the beans.

What is your idea of being wealthy?

 

I think we might be surprised because, when somebody talks so much about being rich, as does Our Boy Bob, it's not really REAL wealth that they know anything about.

 

Do tell, Bob.

Do you actually KNOW anything about being wealthy?

 

 

 

[Jingthing]

Well everyone has their own psychological issues about money.

Read Sigmund Freud.

I don't think we can make blanket generalizations for everyone.

In my life I have noticed some profound effects of my relationship with money.

In my 20s I consciously chose a life of "bohemian" poverty. I didn’t feel like an actual poor person even though I was living like one because I was raised in a somewhat higher class.

What I noticed living poor is that you are forced to have much more intense exposure to people and the real world and that can be potentially spiritually enhancing giving one experiences rich people never have.

Eventually I freaked out and realized if I didn't start working my butt off I would be a real poor person and stuck with it.

So I did.

With money comes the ability to build material walls against the real world and owning too much stuff that ends up owning you.

Happiness when you feel it is fleeting.

Edited August 31, 2023 by Jingthing

[bignok]

6 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Does anyone here believe that...Our Boy Bob even knows....

 

The meaning of the word "rich"?

 

Not just financially...

But in so many other important ways, as well.

 

To Our Boy Bob, his idea of being financially rich might be enough loose change in his pocket just to make his jeans bulge a bit.

 

What is Our Boy Bob's idea of wealth, for that matter?

 

One million USD?

Ten million USD?

100 million USD?

Property around the globe?

 

C'mon Bob!

Spill the beans.

What is your idea of being wealthy?

 

I think we might be surprised because, when somebody talks so much about being rich, as does Our Boy Bob, it's not really REAL wealth that they know anything about.

 

Do tell, Bob.

Do you actually KNOW anything about being wealthy?

 

 

 

Rich is ordering a bucket of kfc to eat only 3 pieces and give away the rest

[bignok]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Well everyone has their own psychological issues about money.

Read Sigmund Freud.

I don't think we can make blanket generalizations for everyone.

In my life I have noticed some profound effects of my relationship with money.

In my 20s I consciously chose a life of "bohemian" poverty. I didn’t feel like an actual poor person even though I was living like one because I was raised in a somewhat higher class.

What I notices living poor is that you are forced to have much more intense exposure to people and the real world and that can be potentially spiritually enhancing giving one experiences rich people never have.

Eventually I freaked out and realized if I didn't start working my butt off I would be a real poor person and stuck with it.

So I did.

With money comes the ability to build material walls against the real world a d owning too much stuff that ends up owning you.

Happiness when you feel it is fleeting.

And buy premium internet.

[GammaGlobulin]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Well everyone has their own psychological issues about money.

Read Sigmund Freud.

I don't think we can make blanket generalizations for everyone.

In my life I have noticed some profound effects of my relationship with money.

In my 20s I consciously chose a life of "bohemian" poverty. I didn’t feel like an actual poor person even though I was living like one because I was raised in a somewhat higher class.

What I noticed living poor is that you are forced to have much more intense exposure to people and the real world and that can be potentially spiritually enhancing giving one experiences rich people never have.

Eventually I freaked out and realized if I didn't start working my butt off I would be a real poor person and stuck with it.

So I did.

With money comes the ability to build material walls against the real world and owning too much stuff that ends up owning you.

Happiness when you feel it is fleeting.

The pursuit of happiness is a total waste of time and resources.

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

5 minutes ago, bignok said:

Well everyone has their own psychological issues about money.

Read Sigmund Freud.

Three examples, please.

Or, is this just another blanket generalization you are making?

 

What is it, using three examples, that Freud had to say about money that is so enlightening?

I'm sincerely curious to know.

 

 

 

[bignok]

Just now, GammaGlobulin said:

Three examples, please.

Or, is this just another blanket generalization you are making?

 

What is it, using three examples, that Freud had to say about money that is so enlightening?

I'm sincerely curious to know.

 

 

 

I never said that

[vinci]

ya'll stop lying to yourself, yes money make you happy period

[bignok]

4 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

The pursuit of happiness is a total waste of time and resources.

 

 

Well happiness is internal so yes you are right. External goals should have some meaning beyond happiness.

[bignok]

"I have found little 'good' about human beings. In my experience, most of them are trash."

 

Freud

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Well everyone has their own psychological issues about money.

Read Sigmund Freud.

I don't think we can make blanket generalizations for everyone.

In my life I have noticed some profound effects of my relationship with money.

In my 20s I consciously chose a life of "bohemian" poverty. I didn’t feel like an actual poor person even though I was living like one because I was raised in a somewhat higher class.

What I noticed living poor is that you are forced to have much more intense exposure to people and the real world and that can be potentially spiritually enhancing giving one experiences rich people never have.

Eventually I freaked out and realized if I didn't start working my butt off I would be a real poor person and stuck with it.

So I did.

With money comes the ability to build material walls against the real world and owning too much stuff that ends up owning you.

Happiness when you feel it is fleeting.

Three examples, please.

Or, is this just another blanket generalization you are making?

 

What is it, using three examples, that Freud had to say about money that is so enlightening?

I'm sincerely curious to know.

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

54 minutes ago, bignok said:

I never said that

My apologies!

You wouldn't have said that, I imagine.

My reply was directed at the person that said it, and not you, of course.

I will be more careful in the future.

 

 

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Three examples, please.

Or, is this just another blanket generalization you are making?

 

What is it, using three examples, that Freud had to say about money that is so enlightening?

I'm sincerely curious to know.

 

 

You'll need to get into this yourself by reading his books. I'm not doing a Freud for Dummies seminar (even if I could which I can't).  His theories and complex and interesting. Linking money to feces and anal eroticism for example. 

Edited August 31, 2023 by Jingthing

[GammaGlobulin]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You'll need to get into this yourself. I'm not doing a Freud for Dummies seminar. His theories and complex and interesting. Linking money to feces and anal eroticism for example. 

Wow.

So you are recommending to me a course for dummies?

How very dismissive of you, poor Thing.

 

What I meant was more along the lines of:

 

Well, as your Shrink must have often said to you, Poor Thing...

 

"If you don't want to talk about it"

"Why don't you want to talk about it?"

"Does talking about it make you feel anxious?"

 

Was this how it went for you, in analysis?

 

 

 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Wow.

So you are recommending to me a course for dummies?

How very dismissive of you, poor Thing.

 

What I meant was more along the lines of:

 

Well, as your Shrink must have often said to you, Poor Thing...

 

"If you don't want to talk about it"

"Why don't you want to talk about it?"

"Does talking about it make you feel anxious?"

 

Was this how it went for you, in analysis?

 

 

 

I find your post very weird.

That's talking about theories about his theories.

To actually see his theories, you need to read his original source materials.

[GammaGlobulin]

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I find your post very weird.

That's talking about theories about his theories.

To actually see his theories, you need to read his original source materials.

And I find it VERY weird to think that you would recommend reading Freud as an authority on psychological issues pertaining to money.

You suggest that we "Read Freud".

 

And then you begin speaking of FECES and ANAL EROTICISM.

You MUST be joking.

Correct?

 

You have such a gift for humor, obviously.

 

[Jingthing]

Just now, GammaGlobulin said:

And I find it VERY weird to think that you would recommend reading Freud as an authority on psychological issues pertaining to money.

You suggest that we "Read Freud".

 

And then you begin speaking of FECES and ANAL EROTICISM.

You MUST be joking.

Correct?

 

You have such a gift for humor, obviously.

 

Do you doubt that Freud wrote about money in terms of feces and anal eroticism? 

[GammaGlobulin]

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I find your post very weird.

That's talking about theories about his theories.

To actually see his theories, you need to read his original source materials.

Please keep in mind that Freud is already very discredited.

He was a Social Scientist, and as such, what value should we place in much of his theories, since they cannot be validated.

 

If you are still such a Freud Freak, then there must be some deep seated reason why, and maybe you need further analysis, just to get to the BOTTOM of it, and the Anal Eroticism thing.

[GammaGlobulin]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Do you doubt that Freud wrote about money in terms of feces and anal eroticism? 

I doubt very much that this is helpful in explaining psychological issues people may have concerning money.

 

Sure, you may think of money as being dirty, I suppose.

And where does dirt COME FROM?

 

Do you have a theory about the origin of dirt, for example?

 

 

[Jingthing]

Just now, GammaGlobulin said:

Please keep in mind that Freud is already very discredited.

He was a Social Scientist, and as such, what value should we place in much of his theories, since they cannot be validated.

 

If you are still such a Freud Freak, then there must be some deep seated reason why, and maybe you need further analysis, just to get to the BOTTOM of it, and the Anal Eroticism thing.

I never said I was a Freud freak or that I am promoting Freudian psychoanalysis.