Trump vows to end ‘madness’ of EV push

[bignok]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

I'm no fan of Trump but he's bang on the money here.

 

Chinese manufactured EV's are not the answer to the dubious claims of the eco warriors. Even if the doomsday cult of climate alarmism had some merit (which it doesn't), switching from mining for gas/coal to mining for precious metals (and then charging the batteries made of those precious metals with electricity primarily generated from gas/coal) is a ridiculous concept.

 

Yes it is.

[bignok]

GOP needs to win to stop left wing nonsense.

[bignok]

17 minutes ago, LS24 said:

 

Source Volt Resources.

 

This is just in US currently . Manufacture in Europe is amazing. So what you say about China being the source of all batteries holds no water.

 

 

US lithium mines are 1% of world supply.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-crushing-us-america-battle-energy-evs-batteries-tech-war-2023-5

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, bignok said:

GOP needs to win to stop left wing nonsense.

Vehicle manufacturers enjoying booming sales of vehicles made in America that meet their customers’ needs.

 

What leftwing nonsense is this?!

[Adumbration]

22 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump thinks he can outsmart market forces.

 

Government policies are not market forces.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Adumbration said:

Government policies are not market forces.

Which ones, those in support of new technology or those in support of fossil fuels?

 

Surging EV sales are definitely market forces.

[bignok]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Vehicle manufacturers enjoying booming sales of vehicles made in America that meet their customers’ needs.

 

What leftwing nonsense is this?!

Tesla is 3/4 of the market. Shares been tanking.

[bbko]

1 minute ago, bignok said:

GOP needs to win to stop left wing nonsense.

Good luck with that, the GOP is on a downhill slide thanks to  tRump, mtg, bobert, jordan, santos, cruz, trump's many convicted felons cronies,  ghoulani, that pillow guy, flynn, stone, desantis, etc.

The GOP is a sinking ship.

[bignok]

2 minutes ago, bbko said:

Good luck with that, the GOP is on a downhill slide thanks to  tRump, mtg, bobert, jordan, santos, cruz, trump's many convicted felons cronies,  ghoulani, that pillow guy, flynn, stone, desantis, etc.

The GOP is a sinking ship.

Biden is polling very low. One of the worst ever for sitting pres

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, bignok said:

Biden is polling very low. One of the worst ever for sitting pres

Nothing for Republicans to worry about then.

[Adumbration]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Which ones, those in support of new technology or those in support of fossil fuels?

 

Surging EV sales are definitely market forces.

Surging EV sales are ill informed consumers.

[bbko]

5 minutes ago, bignok said:

Biden is polling very low. One of the worst ever for sitting pres

Yet the GOP has been losing big time in the past several elections...555.

If those polls are accurate, how sad is it the GOP can't win against "the worst ever for a sitting pres"?

 

The GOP needs to step up is gerrymandering, fake electors, double voting, intimation techniques, insurrection attempts, coup attempts, etc,

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

Surging EV sales are ill informed consumers.

Contempt for customers never did any industry well, let alone a political party.

[Adumbration]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Contempt for customers never did any industry well, let alone a political party.

Naive comment.  Have a read up upon the concept of sovereignty of the marketplace and get back to me.

[LosLobo]

18 minutes ago, bignok said:

US lithium mines are 1% of world supply.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-crushing-us-america-battle-energy-evs-batteries-tech-war-2023-5

Yet, the US has almost twice the lithium reserves of China.

 

Lithium Reserves by Country 2023 (worldpopulationreview.com)

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

Naive comment.  Have a read up upon the concept of sovereignty of the marketplace and get back to me.

In the meantime EV sales continue to surge.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Didn't know they mined Lithium in the USA.

OK so they mine Lithium in the USA but ............

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2022/11/30/only-lithium-mine-in-u-s-is-owned-by-chinese-rep-questions-why-u-s-letting-chinese-control-market/

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1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

OK so they mine Lithium in the USA but ............

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2022/11/30/only-lithium-mine-in-u-s-is-owned-by-chinese-rep-questions-why-u-s-letting-chinese-control-market/

I've got some good news for you:

Lithium Americas’ Breakup Is Really About China, Executive Says

Lithium Americas Corp.’s decision to split the company came down to one thorny issue: US-China relations. 

The mining company announced a plan in November to separate its Argentine and North American units into two separate entities. If approved by shareholders, the split would effectively distance it from one of its top shareholders, Ganfeng Lithium Group Co., a Chinese producer of the white, slivery metal

https://archive.ph/UbY3d#selection-3775.0-3787.48

 

 

[bignok]

39 minutes ago, bbko said:

Yet the GOP has been losing big time in the past several elections...555.

If those polls are accurate, how sad is it the GOP can't win against "the worst ever for a sitting pres"?

 

The GOP needs to step up is gerrymandering, fake electors, double voting, intimation techniques, insurrection attempts, coup attempts, etc,

They won in 2016. 

[bignok]

28 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Yet, the US has almost twice the lithium reserves of China.

 

Lithium Reserves by Country 2023 (worldpopulationreview.com)

 

 

So lefties are stopping the mines then

[JBChiangRai]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I'm no fan of Trump but he's bang on the money here.

 

Chinese manufactured EV's are not the answer to the dubious claims of the eco warriors. Even if the doomsday cult of climate alarmism had some merit (which it doesn't), switching from mining for gas/coal to mining for precious metals (and then charging the batteries made of those precious metals with electricity primarily generated from gas/coal) is a ridiculous concept.

 

They are the answer to those enlightened souls who are buying them in droves.

 

43 minutes ago, bignok said:

Tesla is 3/4 of the market. Shares been tanking.

Because Chinese EV manufacturers are growing market share so fast around the world, Tesla is being downgraded as a stock.

 

37 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

Surging EV sales are ill informed consumers.

Really? I would say the opposite, EV buyers are well educated in the benefits of their EV's over ICE, it's why they bought them.

[bignok]

19 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

They are the answer to those enlightened souls who are buying them in droves.

 

Because Chinese EV manufacturers are growing market share so fast around the world, Tesla is being downgraded as a stock.

 

Really? I would say the opposite, EV buyers are well educated in the benefits of their EV's over ICE, it's why they bought them.

I dont buy ice. Whats it like?

[bignok]

Rode in an EV yesterday. Lost 40% of its charge from a 1.5 hour drive.

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1 minute ago, bignok said:

Rode in an EV yesterday. Lost 40% of its charge from a 1.5 hour drive.

And your report here is as believable as most of the rest of your posts.

[bignok]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

And your report here is as believable as most of the rest of your posts.

Sorry for leaving the room unlike yourself. 

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Just now, bignok said:

Sorry for leaving the room unlike yourself. 

I'm sure you believe your post is relevant to the issue. That doesn't mean it is, though.

[bignok]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

I'm sure you believe your post is relevant to the issue. That doesn't mean it is, though.

You dont get out much do you?

 

Here's the view from the car

[bbko]

4 minutes ago, bignok said:

Rode in an EV yesterday. Lost 40% of its charge from a 1.5 hour drive.

Even if what you posted was halfway true, EV, solar power is the wave of the future. Sure it's not perfect these days, but neither was the gasoline powered car, cellphone, computers, airplanes, etc. when they 1st came out.  

[ozimoron]

On 9/6/2023 at 10:52 AM, BritManToo said:

Trump has a lot of common sense!

Those batteries are all sourced from China.

I remember they laughed when he told the Germans not to rely on Russian gas.

Giving your enemies power over your country is never a smart move.

Your narrative is getting a bit stale 'ol fella.

 

Tracking the EV battery factory construction boom across North America

Here's where the US stands on EV battery production, 1 year after the Inflation Reduction Act was signed

 

The onshoring of battery manufacturing for EVs started as a trickle during the COVID-19 pandemic. Now it’s a tsunami.

 

In 2019, just two battery factories were operating in the United States with another two under construction. Today there are about 30 battery factories either planned, under construction or operational in the country.

 

https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/16/tracking-the-ev-battery-factory-construction-boom-across-north-america/

 

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2 minutes ago, bignok said:

You dont get out much do you?

 

Here's the view from the car

This is truly stunning evidence. How could I even suspect  that a picture taken from a car doesn't prove your claim of a 40% loss of power? Oh, wait, actually I can conclude that given that your evidence is entirely irrelevant to your claim.