Concerns raised about EV vehicles and batteries stored in Bangkok after intense Chatuchak fire

[JBChiangRai]

15 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

I can remember recently where Five automakers have issued recalls linked to defective lithium-ion cells. for approx. 300,000 vehicles due to risk of fire

Safety recalls are common with all types of cars.

[BenStark]

7 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Safety recalls are common with all types of cars.

There are no safety recalls without reason, and you were so happy to point out the safety recalls of the ICE vehicles in your disputed link

[JBChiangRai]

8 minutes ago, BenStark said:

There are no safety recalls without reason, and you were so happy to point out the safety recalls of the ICE vehicles in your disputed link

Which link was that?

[vinny41]

47 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Safety recalls are common with all types of cars.

These recalls were due to multiple   ev's catching fire  in the case of GM alone  19 ev's caught fire

https://www.wtae.com/article/chevy-bolt-owners-frustrated-by-slow-response-to-recall-of-fire-prone-batteries/40476126#:~:text=video player above.-,GM said 19 Bolts have caught fire.,got it%2C she loved it.

 

[JBChiangRai]

Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf had major problems in 2 areas.

 

Firstly, using too much of the battery without discharge and fully charged buffers.

 

Secondly, air cooling which is not sufficient to cool a hot battery in a hot climate.  I don’t think anyone uses air cooling any more.

 

Safety recalls are a good thing, regardless of fuel type.

[vinny41]

LG agrees to repay GM $1.9 billion over Chevy Bolt EV battery recall

https://electrek.co/2021/10/12/lg-agrees-repay-gm-billion-over-chevy-bolt-ev-battery-recall/

 

Hyundai's headaches with LG cells started in 2020 after a number of Kona EVs caught fire in South Korea, Canada, Finland, and Austria. Globally, it recalled 82,000 cars for an expensive battery replacement at an estimated cost of $900 million. In this case, a folded anode tab in the battery cell could allow the lithium plating on the anode to contact the cathode, causing a short circuit.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/04/multiple-recalls-spark-fed-investigation-of-lgs-electric-car-batteries/#:~:text=Hyundai's headaches with LG cells,estimated cost of %24900 million.

 

Cells in GM, Hyundai EV battery fires linked to several LG plants

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/cells-gm-hyundai-ev-battery-fires-linked-several-lg-plants-2021-08-27/

[JBChiangRai]

1 minute ago, vinny41 said:

LG agrees to repay GM $1.9 billion over Chevy Bolt EV battery recall

https://electrek.co/2021/10/12/lg-agrees-repay-gm-billion-over-chevy-bolt-ev-battery-recall/

 

Hyundai's headaches with LG cells started in 2020 after a number of Kona EVs caught fire in South Korea, Canada, Finland, and Austria. Globally, it recalled 82,000 cars for an expensive battery replacement at an estimated cost of $900 million. In this case, a folded anode tab in the battery cell could allow the lithium plating on the anode to contact the cathode, causing a short circuit.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/04/multiple-recalls-spark-fed-investigation-of-lgs-electric-car-batteries/#:~:text=Hyundai's headaches with LG cells,estimated cost of %24900 million.

 

Cells in GM, Hyundai EV battery fires linked to several LG plants

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/cells-gm-hyundai-ev-battery-fires-linked-several-lg-plants-2021-08-27/

That must explain why EV’s are only 10 times less likely to catch fire.

[transam]

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

That must explain why EV’s are only 10 times less likely to catch fire.

I have feeling you do not understand anything about EV battery stuff....????

[vinny41]

2 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

That must explain why EV’s are only 10 times less likely to catch fire.

I just find it amazing that not a single EV expert on this forum was aware of these issues as if you do a search not a single post regarding this issue has ever been posted

[ExpatOilWorker]

26 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Safety recalls are a good thing, regardless of fuel type.

Have there been a single recall from a Chinese manufacturer yet?

 

[JBChiangRai]

4 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Have there been a single recall from a Chinese manufacturer yet?

 

Yes, but nobody responded because they couldn’t read Chinese.

[JBChiangRai]

6 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

I just find it amazing that not a single EV expert on this forum was aware of these issues as if you do a search not a single post regarding this issue has ever been posted

That is because we do the research and understand it’s a non-issue for us with our EV’s.

[transam]

Just now, JBChiangRai said:

That is because we do the research and understand it’s a non-issue for us with our EV’s.

You've done research..................????.....................

[JBChiangRai]

8 minutes ago, transam said:

I have feeling you do not understand anything about EV battery stuff....????

I have a degree in electronic engineering, believe me, I do understand EV and lead acid batteries in detail, even down to coulomb counting practiced in your smartphone.

[transam]

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

I have a degree in electronic engineering, believe me, I do understand EV and lead acid batteries in detail, even down to coulomb counting practiced in your smartphone.

And you're sitting on top of a huge Chinese battery......Riiiiight.....????

But if true, I can see your link with having an EV, whatever may happen to it....????

[ExpatOilWorker]

12 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

That is because we do the research and understand it’s a non-issue for us with our EV’s.

Your EV's, as in MG?

 

A number of plug-in hybrid models from Chinese car-maker MG have been recalled due to a fire risk.

 

https://www.drive.com.au/news/2021-2022-mg-hs-phev-and-hs-ev-plug-in-hybrids-recalled-due-to-fire-risk/

[vinny41]

19 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Yes, but nobody responded because they couldn’t read Chinese.

In April 2022, the State Administration of Market Regulation (SAMR) announced a recall of 9,663 Tang DM-i cars saying a defect in the battery pack could cause fires.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/fans-take-byd-task-recall-confusion-clouds-chinese-ev-makers-image-2022-06-30/

[JBChiangRai]

16 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Your EV's, as in MG?

 

A number of plug-in hybrid models from Chinese car-maker MG have been recalled due to a fire risk.

 

https://www.drive.com.au/news/2021-2022-mg-hs-phev-and-hs-ev-plug-in-hybrids-recalled-due-to-fire-risk/

I don’t have. PHEV, I did in 2018 but it wasn’t MG.

 

8 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

In April 2022, the State Administration of Market Regulation (SAMR) announced a recall of 9,663 Tang DM-i cars saying a defect in the battery pack could cause fires.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/fans-take-byd-task-recall-confusion-clouds-chinese-ev-makers-image-2022-06-30/

It’s not unusual for auto makers to screw up, many many manufacturers did recalls because of faulty air bags bought from other manufacturers, likewise Porsche recalled a few of their models because of faulty air con pressure sensors they bought in and Toyota with faulty accelerators.  It happens all the time.

 

I trust the Chinese with their EV’s they’ve been tested to death in China and they are experienced with the technology.

 

EV owners do notice the media posts about fires etc, but the media automatically makes a big deal out of anything concerning EV’s and I think most owners do the research and make informed decisions. We don’t panic every time we read something, like the BYD Atto in Isaan which turned out not to even be a fire.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

I don’t have. PHEV, I did in 2018 but it wasn’t MG.

 

It’s not unusual for auto makers to screw up, many many manufacturers did recalls because of faulty air bags bought from other manufacturers, likewise Porsche recalled a few of their models because of faulty air con pressure sensors they bought in and Toyota with faulty accelerators.  It happens all the time.

 

I trust the Chinese with their EV’s they’ve been tested to death in China and they are experienced with the technology.

 

EV owners do notice the media posts about fires etc, but the media automatically makes a big deal out of anything concerning EV’s and I think most owners do the research and make informed decisions. We don’t panic every time we read something, like the BYD Atto in Isaan which turned out not to even be a fire.

Yet when they meet water, many go up in smoke, as my vid from the USA pointed out. 

Now LOS has water at this time of year, fords are normal, will you go sailing through one, or book a hotel.............

[JBChiangRai]

17 minutes ago, transam said:

Yet when they meet water, many go up in smoke, as my vid from the USA pointed out. 

Now LOS has water at this time of year, fords are normal, will you go sailing through one, or book a hotel.............

I have driven an EV (German) through an 18” flood.  It was a very foolish thing to do, but I had no issues.

[ExpatOilWorker]

Since this thread have run its course, let's finish with some humor.

Tesla's Mega 98-Supercharger Location Runs In Part On A Diesel Generator: Report

Hidden in plain sight across the way from the Harris Ranch Supercharger’s main stations, behind a Shell station, is a small diesel plant that has helped power Tesla’s footprint.

https://jalopnik.com/tesla-supercharger-location-diesel-generator-report-1850804146