bignok Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 hour ago, FruitPudding said: But they aren't straight, lol What's your basis for calling them straight? You just need to call them something else. You people are good at making up words, so it shouldn't be too hard. They are gay, just a different kind of gay. Like jazz and blues. Still music. I watched a doco on it. The guys who hire ladyboys often enjoy being a bottom. If J thinks thats straight well he is kidding. Its gay. Just a different gay. Gays are never the same. Straights are never the same. J doesnt speak for all gay guys. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, FruitPudding said: I was saying "you" (plural) referring to the LBGT group because you were happy the last time when I said "you people" Was I? I doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitPudding Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, bignok said: They are gay, just a different kind of gay. Like jazz and blues. Still music. I watched a doco on it. The guys who hire ladyboys often enjoy being a bottom. If J thinks thats straight well he is kidding. Its gay. Just a different gay. Gays are never the same. Straights are never the same. J doesnt speak for all gay guys. Exactly, and even the guys who aren't bottom, I am sure one of the attractions is the schlong they have......like, they aren't in it for the vagina. Of course, they are gay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, bignok said: They are gay, just a different kind of gay. Like jazz and blues. Still music. I watched a doco on it. The guys who hire ladyboys often enjoy being a bottom. If J thinks thats straight well he is kidding. Its gay. Just a different gay. Gays are never the same. Straights are never the same. J doesnt speak for all gay guys. So a straight guy that enjoys a naughty finger is gay then, is he? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, FruitPudding said: Exactly, and even the guys who aren't bottom, I am sure one of the attractions is the schlong they have......like, they aren't in it for the vagina. Of course, they are gay. Yes the ladyboys in the doco were pre op. They said the guys wanted schlong not a fake vagina. They just preferred a female type face with a schlong as opposed to a male face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: So a straight guy that enjoys a naughty finger is gay then, is he? Penis isnt finger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, bignok said: Yes the ladyboys in the doco were pre op. They said the guys wanted schlong not a fake vagina. They just preferred a female type face with a schlong as opposed to a male face. Because they're straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, bignok said: Penis isnt finger. Who knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: Because they're straight. They are gay, they like penis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, bignok said: They are gay, just a different kind of gay. Like jazz and blues. Still music. I watched a doco on it. The guys who hire ladyboys often enjoy being a bottom. If J thinks thats straight well he is kidding. Its gay. Just a different gay. Gays are never the same. Straights are never the same. J doesnt speak for all gay guys. Yeah and you don’t speak for all the mostly straight guys who are attracted to trans women/LBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: Yeah and you don’t speak for all the mostly straight guys who are attracted to trans women/LBs. They are gay not straight. Man who likes vaginas is straight. They don't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulikens Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Just now, Jingthing said: I'm not attracted to trans women / ladyboys, etc. in the slightest, dude. Because I'm 100 percent gay. I do give a second look to cute butch lesbians though. I realize these concepts are too sophisticated for many people though. Another case of willful ignorance. Well good on ya. So I can't understand why you are sticking up for men who are in denial of their own sexuality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, paulikens said: Well good on ya. So I can't understand why you are sticking up for men who are in denial of their own sexuality. Not about sticking up. Because it's the truth. A straight guy attracted to trans women is still straight. Fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, bignok said: They are gay not straight. Man who likes vaginas is straight. They don't. Sexual orientation is about more than genitals. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: Sexual orientation is about more than genitals. If I have sex with a goat dressed as a woman is it still not a goat? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulikens Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) Just now, Jingthing said: Not about sticking up. Because it's the truth. A straight guy attracted to trans women is still straight. Fact. Oh! now i see what it is... you want to be part of some sort of an exclusive group. you're gay but some kind of homosexual snob. because the bottom line is men who like men are gay. Otherwise you can't say you're gay because if men who like men isn't gay then neither are you. There is no such thing according to your definition. Edited September 13, 2023 by paulikens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitPudding Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 47 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Was I? I doubt that. Yeah, you exclaimed, "You people?" Then you called me a bigot and vaguely mentioned rhetoric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 30 minutes ago, paulikens said: Oh! now i see what it is... you want to be part of some sort of an exclusive group. you're gay but some kind of homosexual snob. because the bottom line is men who like men are gay. Otherwise you can't say you're gay because if men who like men isn't gay then neither are you. There is no such thing according to your definition. Word salad. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, FruitPudding said: Yeah, you exclaimed, "You people?" Then you called me a bigot and vaguely mentioned rhetoric. Stop playing stupid lying games. Edited September 13, 2023 by Jingthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 37 minutes ago, bignok said: If I have sex with a goat dressed as a woman is it still not a goat? Please use a condom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Please use a condom. Have you tried one already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitPudding Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 34 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Stop playing stupid lying games. Just look back at our comments in this thread. It literally happened today. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Jingthing said: Not man. Transgender woman. The problem seems to be that there is no conclusive definition for transgender woman or transwoman. The term appears to be variously applied to 1. a man who just dresses in women's clothes, and 2. a man who emotionally identifies as a woman und undergoes hormonal treatment and some surgery to resemble a woman, and 3. a man who in addition to hormone treatment has fully completed gender-reassignment surgery, including the genitals. Sometimes, I wonder if there are separate definitions for the various types or stages of transgendering, but this would probably be stuff for a separate topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 54 minutes ago, FruitPudding said: Just look back at our comments in this thread. It literally happened today. ???? No you twisted it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 48 minutes ago, Puccini said: The problem seems to be that there is no conclusive definition for transgender woman or transwoman. The term appears to be variously applied to 1. a man who just dresses in women's clothes, and 2. a man who emotionally identifies as a woman und undergoes hormonal treatment and some surgery to resemble a woman, and 3. a man who in addition to hormone treatment has fully completed gender-reassignment surgery, including the genitals. Sometimes, I wonder if there are separate definitions for the various types or stages of transgendering, but this would probably be stuff for a separate topic. No! Just putting on a dress fits no definition of transgender. Stop lying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgw Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jingthing said: No! Just putting on a dress fits no definition of transgender. Stop lying. but it fits a definition of trans- ... transvestite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 minute ago, tgw said: but it fits a definition of trans- ... transvestite. Yes. Not the same at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgw Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: Yes. Not the same at all. but included in LGBTQ+ Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT Quote Transgender inclusion The term trans* has been adopted by some groups as a more inclusive alternative to "transgender", where trans (without the asterisk) has been used to describe trans men and trans women, while trans* covers all non-cisgender (genderqueer) identities, including transgender, transsexual, transvestite, genderqueer, genderfluid, non-binary, gender<deleted>, genderless, agender, non-gendered, third gender, two-spirit, bigender, and trans man and trans woman.[67][68] Likewise, the term transsexual commonly falls under the umbrella term transgender, but some transsexual people object to this.[3] there is no escaping the logic. Edited September 13, 2023 by tgw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, tgw said: but included in LGBTQ+ Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT there is no escaping the logic. Transvestite does not indicate gender identity. Sorry if this is too complicated for some of you. Edited September 13, 2023 by Jingthing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdemundo Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 14 hours ago, NanLaew said: Where does this prim suggestion of someone "mounting" someone else come from? Sounds like bible-speak to me. Barnyard speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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