What's your opinion on this? Jordan Peterson on Woke Mentality

[rumak]

4 hours ago, Hummin said:

Great minds comes with weakness to, and he for sure have his demons to. 

 

Check out what he have been through for his beliefs and opinions as well well documented statistically researches when it comes to human relations, politics, belief systems and social behaviors and the psychology involved.

 

He also had physically health challenges as well mentally severe depression since he was 13 and also abuse of benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome.

 

He is one of the big thinkers who dare to say what he believe is right, and also have some science backed with his views. 

 

How he see religion, is not that controversial either and more pragmatic in my opinion. 

 

Have to remember Peterson also a person who gets older, with everything that involves. I sure many here have noticed a change emmotionally the older you get.

 

Some is more angry, some more easily emmotionally touched, and some both.

 

What about you? Emmotionally strong as ever?

 

 

 

 

my spelllllling has gotttten betttter .    but i sttttuttter more.

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, rumak said:

my spelllllling has gotttten betttter .    but i sttttuttter more.

Excellent ????

[2baht]

7 hours ago, youngexpat said:

there really isn't a thing called woke

Yes there is, it's the past tense of wake! I woke at 5.00am  his morning! Get it! ????

[spidermike007]

55 minutes ago, VBF said:

As usual @spidermike007 I find myself agreeing with most of what you have said on this thread.

I would add.....all of those terms should be ignored as should people who claim to be "Woke" or "PC".

Whoever these terms apply to, it comes down to their chosen lifestyle which, as long as only consenting adults are involved, is none of my or anyone else's damn business!

 

And....if one is offended by something, it's usually because they've chosen to take offence, not because someone else has caused it.

Finally that's my unapologetic take on the subject.

Yep, me too. Not my issue. You choose to be offended, that is on you. 

 

The dems in the US are losing out over this. Moderates are really sick of it all. Glad I don't have to worry about offending an employer. 

[Jelli]

4 hours ago, LaosLover said:

So as I understand it, you are relentlessly scanning the horizon (on my behalf, no less) for danger from:

 

- bad puppets

-shadowy employees

-"China".

 

And that now leaves me free to just eff off and do nothing, while you do all this heavy lifting?

 

Thanks!

I'm not doing it for you, I'm doing it for me. You are more than welcome to your own opinions and reality.

 

You will see in Thailand no less massive changes to economic, power and control structures within the decade. That's five years.

 

That 10k baht scheme.. it's not about giving money to the poors it's about moron proofing the digital currency that probably has the expectation of being fully live before 2030.

 

Act accordingly.

[spidermike007]

5 hours ago, LaosLover said:

Can you tell us about your many, many militant lesbian encounters?

 

Armpit hair details especially welcome.

When I moved from New York to LA, I was so out of place, and so desperate for contact with real people, I hung out in lesbian bars for a few years. That was great fun. Getting in was sometimes difficult. But once inside alot of the women were very cool. They seemed to get a kick out of the wierd straight guy. Most lesbians are not monsters nor are they extremists. Most are very decent souls. 

[rumak]

8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Excellent ????

i had to get my glasses ....... to see which finger that was pointing upwards  ????

[DogNo1]

Peterson did not abuse a benzo.  He had a paradoxical reaction to it.  Both he and his daughter have dietary challenges and must eat only meat.  His respect for ideas in the Bible was seen in his early lectures and videos of them are probably still on YouTube.

 

Personally, I have Mast Cell Activation Syndrome and also have a very limited diet.  Beef, goat milk and cheese, pea protein and gluten-free cookies.  I would like to eat a broad range of food but my body won’t accept them.  There are websites that deal with MCAS for any doubters.  It’s becoming more widespread.

[Hummin]

26 minutes ago, rumak said:

i had to get my glasses ....... to see which finger that was pointing upwards  ????

My parents teached me to be polite against the older generation.

[Jelli]

2 hours ago, novacova said:

Trumpism is just a leftist sound bite. 
 

In a few years it’ll be forgotten, like wokeism and the extremist left occupying the Democratic Party and falsely labeling themselves as democrats.

Bread and circuses

[Srikcir]

8 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

But then Jordan "forgets" to ask if there are maybe also some little issues with the GOP like having that orange moron running the show.

MAGA is more than a show. It's a Cult where hypocrisy is the norm likely as an escape from anxiety, depression and act of self-immolation required by the Cult Leader..

[VBF]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Yep, me too. Not my issue. You choose to be offended, that is on you. 

 

The dems in the US are losing out over this. Moderates are really sick of it all. Glad I don't have to worry about offending an employer. 

Even when I was working (as a Contractor) I never worried too much whom i offended (sorry...who chose to take offence at my utterings) I spoke my mind and often senior management would thank me for my candour. 

"Publish and be damned" I say 

[farangkinok]

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Hermaphrodite* : An outdated and derogatory term for an intersex person.

So is it "outdated and derogatory" to say that a tapeworm is a hermaphrodite?

 

hermaphroditism: the condition of having both male and female reproductive organs. 

Look that up in your Funk & Wagnalls! 

 

[rumak]

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

My parents teached me to be polite against the older generation.

Thank you  young man .   Often times there are good reasons we are grumpy and bitter . 

But ......... like any age,  some are just &&&&&&&&S  !

[Mark Nothing]

I consider woke as the equivalent of mental garbage designed to poison the soul.

 

The antidote I chose to combat this plague is the Bible. 

[ozimoron]

45 minutes ago, Mark Nothing said:

I consider woke as the equivalent of mental garbage designed to poison the soul.

 

The antidote I chose to combat this plague is the Bible. 

If you characterise those who sign on to woke principles as poisonous can we assume you're willing to crusade against them? The problem with anti-woke is just that, they are anti-woke. The can't just mind their own business and let the woke be woke.

 

And, as for citing the bible as your authority to engage in anti-woke behavior, that's despicable. There's a lot of folks who must have read the bible upside down.

Edited September 16, 2023 by ozimoron

[connda]

What's your opinion on this? Jordan Peterson on Woke Mentality

The 'woke' will be offended and will seek to censor Peterson.
Most everyone else will nod in agreement.

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, novacova said:

Woke is a mental disorder 

Nah. IMO it's brainwashing.

[thaibeachlovers]

11 hours ago, Srikcir said:

MAGA is more than a show. It's a Cult where hypocrisy is the norm likely as an escape from anxiety, depression and act of self-immolation required by the Cult Leader..

Nah, It's an entirely expected reaction to woke PC liberal policies.

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, novacova said:

Trumpism is just a leftist sound bite. 
 

In a few years it’ll be forgotten, like wokeism and the extremist left occupying the Democratic Party and falsely labeling themselves as democrats.

Sadly I do not think wokeism will vanish any time soon. I hate rap with a vengeance and when it emerged in the 90s I hoped it would be a passing fad, but sadly it stayed and even morphed into more antisocial noise that <deleted> play at deafening levels in public places.

I think woke is here to stay as long as the <deleted> exist.

[thaibeachlovers]

13 hours ago, Jelli said:

Birthrate demise

While I agree with much of what you wrote in that post, decreased birth rate is a good thing. There are far too many people on the planet and we are destroying our nest.

Sadly, the population keeps increasing in countries least able to employ them.

 

BTW, if men had to bear children the human race would have died out long ago as being pregnant is not pleasant and child birth hurts a lot.

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, Skeptic7 said:

Not a fan of anything Jordan Peterson. He's a word salad spinner. No answers to anything...only more nonsensical questions. The guy is a moron. 

and you are soooooo much better?

[impulse]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

13 hours ago, Srikcir said:

MAGA is more than a show. It's a Cult where hypocrisy is the norm likely as an escape from anxiety, depression and act of self-immolation required by the Cult Leader..

Nah, It's an entirely expected reaction to woke PC liberal policies.

If you take the bad orange man out of the picture, what American would disagree with Make America Great Again?

 

PC liberals...

[Jelli]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

While I agree with much of what you wrote in that post, decreased birth rate is a good thing. There are far too many people on the planet and we are destroying our nest.

Sadly, the population keeps increasing in countries least able to employ them.

 

BTW, if men had to bear children the human race would have died out long ago as being pregnant is not pleasant and child birth hurts a lot.

Two cohorts.

 

The first cohort is region of the greater Indian subcontinent. The second is sub Saharan Africa. The only thing that will control population are waves of deadly disease and or famine.

 

Countries with declining birthrates. We can equate these rates with total collapse of civilization as we know it as children will need to effectively birthed by the state and even potentially in artificial wombs. There may also be surrogates as well as indentured, prisoner and slave surrogates. Countries will need people despite technology and robotics to simply maintain the nation state. This is the neo lumpenproletariat, worker bees and those that will service the elite.

 

Well, that is just hypothetical bs because men will never have babies. Men have other painful burdens in life. We are sent to war, we work dirty and dangerous jobs. We built everything both by design and construction.

 

 

Tying into birthrates:

 

The green movement is twofold: to tidy the world up for the elite and their future heirs to power and wealth. To drive technology at the consumers cost to:

 

1 wetwire information and data direct access to brain function Godlike

2 delay aging and death, eternal life* Godlike

3 get maniacs into space. TBH I'm not certain the end game here at all. = Godlike

4 to become God and to rule with godlike powers over the world.

 

All this is very doable. It's happening right now. Just poke around the internet for a few hours.

 

Edited September 16, 2023 by Jelli

[Hummin]

34 minutes ago, impulse said:

If you take the bad orange man out of the picture, what American would disagree with Make America Great Again?

 

PC liberals...

What about making America Healthy again? Physically and mentally ?

 

 

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

What about making America Healthy again? Physically and mentally 

Healthy people don't spend as much on pharmaceuticals, so I'm not seeing that happening...

 

 

[Hummin]

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

Healthy people don't spend as much on pharmaceuticals, so I'm not seeing that happening...

 

 

Everything start at some place at some point! The motivation back in the 50 and 60'ies, was economic growth and new wealth for everybody.

 

When the need is there, and people Unite to pull in same direction for the country's best it is possible, but who and what can make that change and give motivation?  Unfortunate, war seems the only way, and with an bigger enemy, and and a new crises with suffering might create motivation for a change, but when looking back at covid, that ony divided people even more. So I'm not to sure. 

 

 

 

The west will loose if this continues in same direction as now. And the orange man is not the solution either. 

 

 

[novacova]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Sadly I do not think wokeism will vanish any time soon. I hate rap with a vengeance and when it emerged in the 90s I hoped it would be a passing fad, but sadly it stayed and even morphed into more antisocial noise that <deleted> play at deafening levels in public places.

I think woke is here to stay as long as the <deleted> exist.

 You may be correct, unfortunately the noise may persist until a future generation snaps out of it, hopefully before full fledged dictatorial communism sweeps them away.

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, novacova said:

 You may be correct, unfortunately the noise may persist until a future generation snaps out of it, hopefully before full fledged dictatorial communism sweeps them away.

Remember Generation Rockn Roll?

 

Elvis started out as an healthy good rebel, and ended up fat and addicted to booze, drugs and to young women! That's America's downfall and the west. Generation Coca Cola cultivating the dream of happiness and freedom without responsibility? 

 

Every Generation have its trademark but I'm not sure az bad as now! 

[Hummin]

I predict Islam will grow remarkable in the future, because it still have structure and discipline, and also preach love and respect among its own! 

 

People missing that, and before anyone goes off here, strict religion have something many people needs. 

 

I'm not Christian or believe in any man made religion, but I have read my history and psychology. 

 

Modern growth. Islam is the fastest-growing religion in the world. In 1990, 1.1 billion people were Muslims, while in 2010, 1.6 billion people were Muslims

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_of_religion

Edited September 17, 2023 by Hummin