The Question Is:  If, and only if, you believe in God, do you believe God to be trustworthy?

 

If yes, then why?

If no, then why?

 

IF you do NOT believe in GOD, 

THEN, this TOPIC is NOT for you, …and...

Therefore...

Please do not comment here.

 

Since I DO believe in GOD, I will only comment that...

 

I have not found GOD to be completely trustworthy.

 

However, I assume that your views might differ from mine.

 

In God We Trust, is the phrase like the Greenback?

 

And when you cannot trust the Greenback?...

 

 

 

Can we trust in GOD to always be trustworthy?

 

How has GOD proved Himself to be trustworthy during the past few years, for example?

 

Ever thought about it???

 

 

 

 

Nobody knows. We only have the church's word for it and that's not panning out too well for them these last few decades.

Whenever I'm entering a fraught situation, I say a little prayer, "God, don't let me be the butthole here".

 

Sometimes, he lets me down.

 

He's been dead for years, apparently, does it matter???????

 

 

Edited September 29, 20232 yr by 2baht

Maybe we need some God rotation on the notes?

Religion is destroying the World, so why there should be a God.All Fairy tales.

I don't think you believe in God.

 

You shall not question God. 

 

"Who among you fears the LORD and obeys the voice of his servant? Let him who walks in darkness and has no light trust in the name of the LORD and rely on his God."

 

Amen

Any gawd who sends himself down to have himself tortured and murdered in a horrific fashion just to save creatures he made from sins he made up - how can such a madman be trusted?

This topic been done to death already.. with the same results...

21 minutes ago, UWEB said:

Religion is destroying the World, so why there should be a God.All Fairy tales.

People using religion as an excuse to hurt others is hurting the world, along with narcissistic leaders and others that rape the earth for profit and hurt the innocent. God doesn't even have to be brought into this because it's people that are doing the damage.

Hi Gamma.

 

Have you been taking some time to be distant?

Have you been taken some time to be still?

Have you been taken some time to be by yourself since your therapist told you that you are ill.

Have you been making some progress lately?

Have you learned some new coping skills?

So we haven't needed you much , man.

I think you need to step back and chill. 

 

Welcome Back..

 

I believe in God, but don't see why you would consider him un trustworthy. Has he promised anything he hasn't delivered? I question why so much evil happens in the world and why he doesn't step in, but he has given us free will, and with that free will comes evil. I think he is just sitting back and watching us destroy ourselves, and Jesus will come back when God thinks it's enough. Yes, he  could give heart attacks to the Hitlers, Putins, Mao's, Pol Pots, Stalins, Kim Jong Un's, and other narcissists that are killing for power, take away mosquitoes that kill more than anything else, and all the rest of the diseases and poisonous things we have to deal with, but again, I think we are only here for a short time to learn things, to go on into another forever life that doesn't have all the shiit this one does. He made us, so he has the right to make his rules, and they do make sense. Not following them has brought destruction on all of us.

My better half believes in God. She must have screamed out 'Oh God' seven times last night!

 

NOTE: Seven times is an indicator it was a lacking performance by me.

I accept that Thor has many of the worst human qualities, so I trust Thor only as far as I can throw an axe. And Odin, damn....I trust a bargirl who professes her undying and eternal love more than that imp.

 

So long as I get a front row seat in Valhalla, no problem.

 

Oh, did you mean one of the other 10 million gods humans have made up? My bad.

15 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I believe in God, but don't see why you would consider him un trustworthy. Has he promised anything he hasn't delivered? I question why so much evil happens in the world and why he doesn't step in, but he has given us free will, and with that free will comes evil. I think he is just sitting back and watching us destroy ourselves, and Jesus will come back when God thinks it's enough. Yes, he  could give heart attacks to the Hitlers, Putins, Mao's, Pol Pots, Stalins, Kim Jong Un's, and other narcissists that are killing for power, take away mosquitoes that kill more than anything else, and all the rest of the diseases and poisonous things we have to deal with, but again, I think we are only here for a short time to learn things, to go on into another forever life that doesn't have all the shiit this one does. He made us, so he has the right to make his rules, and they do make sense. Not following them has brought destruction on all of us.

It's those tsunamis, earthquakes and childhood cancer that have me thinking your god is a psychopath and sadist.

3 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

It's those tsunamis, earthquakes and childhood cancer that have me thinking your god is a psychopath and sadist.

The OP did say if you don't believe in God, you don't need to comment. And like I said before, you will find out when you die, and then it just might be too late.

1 hour ago, UWEB said:

Religion is destroying the World, so why there should be a God.All Fairy tales.

-Virgin birth.

-Returned from the dead after 3 days.

-disciple parted the water on a big river.

-Magic appearance of food.

 

Recent reports:

- Jesus never existed.

- Many folks mentioned in the bible never existed.

 

- And for the white supremitists researchers claim jesus was not white skinned. 

 

Not a believer, never will be, therefore no trust.  

 

 

Edited September 29, 20232 yr by scorecard

1 hour ago, a3tsw said:

Hi Gamma.

 

Have you been taking some time to be distant?

Have you been taken some time to be still?

Have you been taken some time to be by yourself since your therapist told you that you are ill.

Have you been making some progress lately?

Have you learned some new coping skills?

So we haven't needed you much , man.

I think you need to step back and chill. 

 

Welcome Back..

 

I think you are a pill.

 

7 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

I think you are a pill.

 

It's a ????performance from a guy named Ren called Hi Ren , check it out on you tube.. also "How to be Me" by Ren & Chinchilla

Edited September 29, 20232 yr by a3tsw
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It's amazing that billions of people still believe in something that doesn't make any sense.

But I think we should keep that kind of behavior in mind when we look at how people vote, what kind of scams they accept, etc.

I guess all humans have a brain. Imagine they would actually use it all the time. 

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It's amazing that billions of people still believe in something that doesn't make any sense.

But I think we should keep that kind of behavior in mind when we look at how people vote, what kind of scams they accept, etc.

I guess all humans have a brain. Imagine they would actually use it all the time. 

Actually a creator makes a lot of sense. Thinking everything just happened from nothing doesn't make any sense.People fall for scams because they are desperate to get ahead. People vote, many times for the wrong person, because they believe their lies and empty promises.

Edited September 29, 20232 yr by fredwiggy

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Actually a creator makes a lot of sense.

Sure, until you ask the question who created that creator. Like the super-god created god, so that god could create the earth and all that. Sure! ... 

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Sure, until you ask the question who created that creator. Like the super-god created god, so that god could create the earth and all that. Sure! ... 

Too much has been written for both sides, and no one has proof besides the miracles of life we see every day. To some that's just by chance also. God was always there, although no one can assimilate that without doubt.

20 minutes ago, a3tsw said:

It's a ????performance from a guy named Ren called Hi Ren , check it out on you tube.. also "How to be Me" by Ren & Chinchilla

If I did "check it out", as you seem to be suggesting, and, as usual, in your lowbrow idiomatic way, do you really believe there might be anything of redeeming value in the experience?

 

Also, must you continually pack all your utterances full of slang?

 

Have you never thought to put a bit of effort into your writing in order to feel more pride in the writing of your comments?

 

I can understand that today is a rainy one, which might cause some to feel more relaxed.

But do you also need to relax the quality of your writing on this Friday?

 

When you write, try to write while holding your shoulders back, figuratively speaking.

Write with clarity.

And use a few well-chosen words, too.

But please direct your well-chosen words not at me.

 

Thank you.

 

 

Edited September 29, 20232 yr by GammaGlobulin

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Actually a creator makes a lot of sense. Thinking everything just happened from nothing doesn't make any sense.

Actually Scientists, Astrophysicists, biologists, geneticists and the likes don't think it just happened from nothing, They've proved it beyond any reasonable doubt.

 

No one has yet proved that there is a creator/god.

10 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Actually Scientists, Astrophysicists, biologists, geneticists and the likes don't think it just happened from nothing, They've proved it beyond any reasonable doubt.

 

No one has yet proved that there is a creator/god.

Scientists have not proven anything besides the universe expanding and that it theoretically was created by a big bang, which sent matter in all directions, which to me is God making things happen. Matter is what everything is made of. Some say dark energy is a lot of it. Energy created by God. Matter cannot happen from nothing. Believing someone because they are a scientist is naive. Half of scientists believe there is a God. What does that say?We believe by faith. Something many don't understand. The devil works in many mysterious ways to stop people  from believing.

Edited September 29, 20232 yr by fredwiggy

Really Job GammaGlobulin ?

 

Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
    Tell me, if you understand.
 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
    Who stretched a measuring line across it?
 On what were its footings set,
    or who laid its cornerstone—
 while the morning stars sang together
    and all the angels[a] shouted for joy?

 “Who shut up the sea behind doors
    when it burst forth from the womb,
 when I made the clouds its garment
    and wrapped it in thick darkness,
 when I fixed limits for it
    and set its doors and bars in place,
 when I said, ‘This far you may come and no farther;
    here is where your proud waves halt’?

 “Have you ever given orders to the morning,
    or shown the dawn its place,
    that it might take the earth by the edges
    and shake the wicked out of it?

 

 

Divine Beings are tricky.

 

 

 

Trustworthy ... Hell No

 

First GOD give you cancer, you pray to get rid of it, GOD comes through and you're clear of it, then gives it to you again.

 

GOD's a prick with no sense of humor. 

53 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

If I did "check it out", as you seem to be suggesting, and, as usual, in your lowbrow idiomatic way, do you really believe there might be anything of redeeming value in the experience?

 

Also, must you continually pack all your utterances full of slang?

 

Have you never thought to put a bit of effort into your writing in order to feel more pride in the writing of your comments?

 

I can understand that today is a rainy one, which might cause some to feel more relaxed.

But do you also need to relax the quality of your writing on this Friday?

 

When you write, try to write while holding your shoulders back, figuratively speaking.

Write with clarity.

And use a few well-chosen words, too.

But please direct your well-chosen words not at me.

 

Thank you.

 

 

feeling a bit brittle today I see..

 

PS.. my shoulders are back

40 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Scientists have not proven anything besides the universe expanding and that it theoretically was created by a big bang, which sent matter in all directions, which to me is God making things happen. Matter is what everything is made of. Some say dark energy is a lot of it. Energy created by God. Matter cannot happen from nothing. Believing someone because they are a scientist is naive. Half of scientists believe there is a God. What does that say?We believe by faith. Something many don't understand. The devil works in many mysterious ways to stop people  from believing.

Thank you for acknowledging that everything that we know was a result the 'big bang'. At least it's a step in the right direction from the 7 day creation nonsense that our RE teacher use to try and pump into us. (A topic which, not surprisingly I scored E minus in my school report)

 

Believing someone because they are a scientist is naive? Personally I believe that accepting 'blind faith' is a lot more so.

 

Bring on the proof I say.