Social Media Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 The Senate passed a bill Saturday to extend government funding for 45 days, sending the legislation to Joe Biden’s desk with just hours left to avoid a federal shutdown. The Senate approved the bill in a bipartisan vote of 88 to 9, easily surpassing the 60-vote threshold needed for passage. Nine senators, all Republicans, opposed it. “It’s been a day full of twists and turns, but the American people can breathe a sigh of relief. There will be no shutdown,” the Senate Democratic leader, Chuck Schumer, said after the vote. “Our bipartisanship made this possible and showed the House that they had to act.” The Senate vote came hours after the proposal passed the House in an overwhelming bipartisan vote of 335 to 91, with 209 Democrats joining 126 Republicans in supporting the legislation. Ninety House Republicans opposed the bill. The bill – unveiled by the House Republican speaker, Kevin McCarthy, on Saturday morning – will extend funding through 17 November and allocate $16bn for disaster aid. The bill does not include additional funding for Ukraine, which has become a source of outrage among hard-right lawmakers. At the last minute, Senator Michael Bennet, a Democrat of Colorado, threatened to block the bill’s advancement because of its lack of Ukraine funding. But leaders of both parties promised that Congress would soon take up a supplemental appropriations bill to provide additional financial assistance to Ukraine. “I’m confident the senator will pass further urgent assistance to Ukraine later this year,” said Mitch McConnell, the Senate Republican leader. “But let’s be clear: the alternative to our action today, an entirely avoidable government shutdown, would not just pause our progress on these important priorities. It would actually set them back.” McCarthy introduced the stopgap bill under suspension of the rules, meaning he needed the support of two-thirds of House members to advance the proposal. Although House Democrats also criticized the bill’s lack of Ukraine funding, they ultimately provided McCarthy with the support needed to get the legislation across the finish line. FULL STORY 1
Popular Post Tug Posted October 1, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 1, 2023 Kicking and hollering all the way the House finally passed a bipartisan bill (btw that’s the way it’s supposed to be bi partisan)now the magganuts are going to howl and their lord Donald is going to have a tantrum and start threatening everyone who voted what a mess the Republican caucus is 2 2 1
thaibeachlovers Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 42 minutes ago, Social Media said: The bill does not include additional funding for Ukraine, So, stick that in your pipes, all the warmongers in congress. Score for those not willing to give a blank cheque to enrich the military industrial complex. Now it will have to be debated as a stand alone bill, as it should always have been. 1 3 2 1
Popular Post Tug Posted October 1, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: So, stick that in your pipes, all the warmongers in congress. Score for those not willing to give a blank cheque to enrich the military industrial complex. Now it will have to be debated as a stand alone bill, as it should always have been. Awww sorry to disappoint you but the United states won’t abandon Ukraine to the Russian boot there is far more support for Ukraine than not sorry to dash your hopes .I think the warmonger you should be criticizing is Putin he’s the cause,the USA and the eu are responding to a nation under attack pleas for help to repel the aggressor 5 2 1 1
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted October 1, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 1, 2023 These Republican senators voted against the government funding bill Here are the nine Republicans who voted against the continuing resolution: Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.) Sen. Mike Braun (R-Ind.) Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.) Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) Sen. Roger Marshall (R-Kansas) Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) Sen. Eric Schmitt (Mo.) Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio) https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4232305-these-republican-senators-voted-against-the-government-funding-bill/ Most or all Trumpers, if I'm not mistaken. 2 1 1
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted October 1, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 1, 2023 Among the 90 Republicans who wanted to shut down the government by voting against the continuing resolution. Lot of familiar names there, including numerous Trump "steal the election" supporters: https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2023513 Andy Biggs from Arizona Lauren Boebert from Colorado James Comer from Kentucky (Biden impeachment campaign leader) Matt Gaetz from Florida Paul Gosar from Arizona Marjorie Taylor Greene from Georgia Ronny Jackson from Texas (Trump's former physician) Greg Pence from Indiana (elder brother of the former VP) Ryan Zinke from Montana (Trump's disgraced Sec. of the Interior) etc etc.... 2 1
billd766 Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 IMHO the government should never be shut down. Again IMHO what should happen if is does shut down, is that for every day it is shut, every member of the house and the senate, should get NO salary or expenses for one month. If it lasts for 12 days then they lose one years salary. Put the responsibility firmly where it belongs, at the feet of the politicians. 1 1
placeholder Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 8 hours ago, billd766 said: IMHO the government should never be shut down. Again IMHO what should happen if is does shut down, is that for every day it is shut, every member of the house and the senate, should get NO salary or expenses for one month. If it lasts for 12 days then they lose one years salary. Put the responsibility firmly where it belongs, at the feet of the politicians. Really? They're all equally responsible? Please. It's very clear where the responsibility lies. When McCarthy negotiated an agreement with Biden about the debt limit, he promised no more threats of shutdowns. How are all politicians responsible when one side breaks its word? In addition, threatening the pay of members of Congress, will only further encourage the trend of having extremely wealthy people in the house and said it as representatives. 2
thaibeachlovers Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 15 hours ago, billd766 said: IMHO the government should never be shut down. Again IMHO what should happen if is does shut down, is that for every day it is shut, every member of the house and the senate, should get NO salary or expenses for one month. If it lasts for 12 days then they lose one years salary. Put the responsibility firmly where it belongs, at the feet of the politicians. In combative politics, it's the job of politicians to vote for what they believe in, and against what they disagree with, so if it was as you say they would vote for bad legislation to keep their pay coming. That's a very bad idea. If it was your way, Ukrainian funding would have been snuck in under cover of funding the government which is not how it should be done. Ukraine is not an American state. If Biden wants an end to such partisan voting he should get off his butt, and go talk to the opposition, like Clinton did, but seems he's all talk and not much do. 1 1
placeholder Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 53 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: In combative politics, it's the job of politicians to vote for what they believe in, and against what they disagree with, so if it was as you say they would vote for bad legislation to keep their pay coming. That's a very bad idea. If it was your way, Ukrainian funding would have been snuck in under cover of funding the government which is not how it should be done. Ukraine is not an American state. If Biden wants an end to such partisan voting he should get off his butt, and go talk to the opposition, like Clinton did, but seems he's all talk and not much do. It's clear that you are utterly with recent history. Biden and McCarthy engaged in extensive negotiations and reached an agreement on raising the debt limit. As part of that agreement, McCarthyi pledged no more shutdowns. He reneged. 1 1
heybruce Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: In combative politics, it's the job of politicians to vote for what they believe in, and against what they disagree with, so if it was as you say they would vote for bad legislation to keep their pay coming. That's a very bad idea. If it was your way, Ukrainian funding would have been snuck in under cover of funding the government which is not how it should be done. Ukraine is not an American state. If Biden wants an end to such partisan voting he should get off his butt, and go talk to the opposition, like Clinton did, but seems he's all talk and not much do. "Ukrainian funding would have been snuck in" Seriously? Do you think no one knew about this funding?
Skipalongcassidy Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 19 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: So, stick that in your pipes, all the warmongers in congress. Score for those not willing to give a blank cheque to enrich the military industrial complex. Now it will have to be debated as a stand alone bill, as it should always have been. You have confused or saddened 5 of the Hateful 8 1
Skipalongcassidy Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 17 hours ago, billd766 said: IMHO the government should never be shut down. Again IMHO what should happen if is does shut down, is that for every day it is shut, every member of the house and the senate, should get NO salary or expenses for one month. If it lasts for 12 days then they lose one years salary. Put the responsibility firmly where it belongs, at the feet of the politicians. You have to ask... why is balancing the budget of one of the biggest businesses in the world always last minute... you are right in that if these jokers were held accountable maybe they could do better. 1
thaibeachlovers Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 Just now, Skipalongcassidy said: You have to ask... why is balancing the budget of one of the biggest businesses in the world always last minute... you are right in that if these jokers were held accountable maybe they could do better. IMO as long as US politicians keep sticking unrelated expenses into spending bills the problem will continue. If they required clean spending bills it might solve the problem. One of the people's dislikes of congress is the amount of pork stuck in spending bills. If one remembers Animal Farm, "pork" is a very relevant description. 1
billd766 Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 12 hours ago, placeholder said: Really? They're all equally responsible? Please. It's very clear where the responsibility lies. When McCarthy negotiated an agreement with Biden about the debt limit, he promised no more threats of shutdowns. How are all politicians responsible when one side breaks its word? In addition, threatening the pay of members of Congress, will only further encourage the trend of having extremely wealthy people in the house and said it as representatives. Do you believe anything any politician says? I gave up believing that joke years ago.
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