ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[Nick Carter icp]

7 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

Yes, indeed 7th of October boundaries have been implemented globally on all public forums up to UN presidency!

 

  Does that make any sense ?

Could you simplify that a bit to make it more understandable ?

[Wobblybob]

6 hours ago, Danny Australia said:

 

The war had started much earlier than 7 October 2023, it began when Israel illegally occupied the West bank and Gaza and kept building -ever since- illegal settlements on occupied land.

 

Real animals and war criminals are Netanyahu and his Nazi-like army who have killed so far close to 4,000 children alone in just over 3 weeks in their pursuit of revenge for perceived humiliations inflicted by a few hundred lightly armed fighters.

 

Targeting women, children, press, hospitals, schools, places of worship, houses etc. is nothing but State Terrorism at its worst. And you calling the other party animals?

This topic is about the war that started on the 7th October, check the heading if you don't believe me, there is enough of whataboutery on this thread without complicating it further.

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, Danny Australia said:

 

Really? this is all you have to justify killing children and targeting hospitals??

This is pathetic.  Did it not cross your mind that this guy either has been coerced into saying anything the interrogators wanted him to say or is himself an Israeli informant?

They referring to Shifa hospital which Israel has been bombing around it in the last 48 hours and issued orders to vacate it. If this hospital is bombed, Israel would OfCourse blame Hamas.

 

  You are rather late to the discussion, we have been discussing this for a last week and have been through this numerous times .

   Its been established about (ten days ago) that Hamas have their head quarters beneath a hospital and children have been placed in the fireing line by Hamas 

   It would be nice if you could make an effort to read the thread, rather than jumping in and bringing the discussion back to ten days ago 

[BarraMarra]

4 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

 

Really? this is all you have to justify killing children and targeting hospitals??

This is pathetic.  Did it not cross your mind that this guy either has been coerced into saying anything the interrogators wanted him to say or is himself an Israeli informant?

They referring to Shifa hospital which Israel has been bombing around it in the last 48 hours and issued orders to vacate it. If this hospital is bombed, Israel would OfCourse blame Hamas.

Give us Evidence of Hospitals being targeted Danny or withdraw that statement.

[MrMojoRisin]

32 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Let's all get back on the Original Thread " Israel at War ". 

Bullet Points - Was this started on 7th October  Yes.

Reason for the War - A Terrorist Organisation crossed the border from Gaza into Israel and Slaughtered men Woman and Children.

They then kidnapped men, women, and Children and forced them to be held as Hostages within Gaza.

Israel has begun a campaign to destroy Hamas and Return Israeli and many other Nationaliy's kidnapped by Hamas.

 Hamas is Stockpiling Ammunition and firing Rockets within built-up Areas in Gaza. Sadly due to this Civilians will be killed however if Hamas had not fired Rockets into Israel this would not be happening now. Was Israel Targeting Gaza Daily Prior to 7th Oct  NO.  This is the main reason for this thread anything moving away takes the thread nowhere. In my opinion any members not wishing to debate this thread should refrain from posting on it.

 

What are the current death tolls for each side?

Can you include separate figures for innocent women and children?

Also, why did Hamas launch the attack?

Did Israel under PM Netanyahu help Hamas maintain control of Gaza?

What are the potential war crimes being committed by each side?

Has Israel used White Phosphorous bombs?

What is the current view of the Israeli voter towards Netanyahu?

[BarraMarra]

2 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

What are the current death tolls for each side?

Can you include separate figures for innocent women and children?

Also, why did Hamas launch the attack?

Did Israel under PM Netanyahu help Hamas maintain control of Gaza?

What are the potential war crimes being committed by each side?

Has Israel used White Phosphorous bombs?

What is the current view of the Israeli voter towards Netanyahu?

Well done MoJo you have Achieved the goal you started of destroying this thread which you set out to do nice one well done.

[MrMojoRisin]

38 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

   So when you say "carpet bombing" , you don't actually mean it in the sense of how the rest of the World perceives that word , its just a good powerful word to say that gets peoples attention , rather like "Genocide" "Apartheid" "War crimes" and its a way to get a response 

 

Basically, yes.

But more than getting a reaction, the intention is to convey my personal moral position.

Hiding behind technicalities when children are being blown to pieces is just not my style.

 

The main difference with the use of terms such as apartheid, genocide and war crimes (no need for quotation marks) when discussing Israel is that they are pretty much main stream accepted facts. Google Israel and apartheid for example and you'll get over 29,000,000 results.

 

In short:

Carpet bombing = hyperbole

Apartheid, genocide and war crimes = reality

[Danny Australia]

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The real actual war crimes were committed by the Palestinians , the Hamas war crimes have been named and confirmed they happened .

   You claims that Israel committed war crimes are false and didn't happen 

Repeating a lie or continuously denying a fact does not make sense but might makes you feel better.

What is that that did not happen in your opinion? All this 24/7 killing and destruction of everything are just lies? 4000 children killed in 3 weeks is a lie? What planet you are on?

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Danny Australia said:

 

The war had started much earlier than 7 October 2023, it began when Israel illegally occupied the West bank and Gaza and kept building -ever since- illegal settlements on occupied land.

 

Real animals and war criminals are Netanyahu and his  army who have killed so far close to 4,000 children alone in just over 3 weeks in their pursuit of revenge for perceived humiliations inflicted by a few hundred lightly armed fighters.

 

Targeting women, children, press, hospitals, schools, places of worship, houses etc. is nothing but State Terrorism at its worst. And you calling the other party animals?

So much wrong with that vile antisemitic post but for starters Israel doesn't occupy Gaza and October 7 was the biggest massacre of non military Jews since the holocaust. 

[Thorgal]

11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Does that make any sense ?

Could you simplify that a bit to make it more understandable ?

 

Some +/- 102 UN resolutions against Israel prior to 7th of October 2023 became off topic and the president of the UN Guterres was requested to resign due to antisemitism...

 

https://fortune.com/2023/10/25/un-secretary-general-says-hamas-attack-did-not-happen-in-vacuum-guterres-israel/

[transam]

5 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

 

Really? this is all you have to justify killing children and targeting hospitals??

This is pathetic.  Did it not cross your mind that this guy either has been coerced into saying anything the interrogators wanted him to say or is himself an Israeli informant?

They referring to Shifa hospital which Israel has been bombing around it in the last 48 hours and issued orders to vacate it. If this hospital is bombed, Israel would OfCourse blame Hamas.

So you didn't take in the important parts, never mind...

 

Oh, my mum in 1940 London, didn't get any bombing warnings at all, accept the air raid siren at the last minute, then down to the underground railway tunnels, can Gaza folk use Hamas tunnels, not on your nelly, they are for rockets etc, that they send to Israel on a near daily basis, and have done for yonks, aimed at civilians too.

 

Something tells me you didn't know that.........🤭

[transam]

10 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

What are the current death tolls for each side?

Can you include separate figures for innocent women and children?

Also, why did Hamas launch the attack?

Did Israel under PM Netanyahu help Hamas maintain control of Gaza?

What are the potential war crimes being committed by each side?

Has Israel used White Phosphorous bombs?

What is the current view of the Israeli voter towards Netanyahu?

You are going round in circles............😂

[MrMojoRisin]

29 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Do stop posting links that you need to sign up for to read  ,   thanks 

There is no pay wall or sign in.

Obviously getting things right is a bit difficult for you, but do try harder.

Thanks.

[Bkk Brian]

The mum thought she may have still been alive but it was just announced on BBC that Shani Louk the German national has been confirmed dead after dna from a skull fragment was found. The <deleted> barbarians

 

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[BarraMarra]

The thread is finished and in my opinion should be locked. Shame but some members have destroyed it. Warnings were given out but ignored so for me lock it.

[Jingthing]

Just now, transam said:

So you didn't take in the important parts, never mind...

 

Oh, my mum in 1940 London, didn't get any bombing warnings at all, accept the air raid siren at the last minute, then down to the underground railway tunnels, can Gaza folk use Hamas tunnels, not on your nelly, they are for rockets etc, that they send to Israel on a near daily basis, and have done for yonks, aimed at civilians too.

 

Something tells me you didn't know that.........🤭

If it isn't extremist Hamas friendly "facts" he wouldn't believe it anyway. 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

Basically, yes.

But more than getting a reaction, the intention is to convey my personal moral position.

Hiding behind technicalities when children are being blown to pieces is just not my style.

 

The main difference with the use of terms such as apartheid, genocide and war crimes (no need for quotation marks) when discussing Israel is that they are pretty much main stream accepted facts. Google Israel and apartheid for example and you'll get over 29,000,000 results.

 

In short:

Carpet bombing = hyperbole

Apartheid, genocide and war crimes = reality

 

 

  Laugh out loud , just LOL 

The truth is now dependant on how many results come up on a google search 🙂

I just did a google search for "I am very clever"

I got 437 000 000 results 

Me and Einstein have similarities . 

   You are seriously saying that the amount of results a google search brings up means its true 

I am done with this idiocy and I cannot believe I am talking about this 

[MrMojoRisin]

32 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Once again , this war started on 7 th October, although were previous hostilities between the two  including other wars .

7 th October this war started 

Before 7 th October , confrontations that weren't part of this war 

Wrong.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, MrMojoRisin said:

Wrong.

Why lie, there was no war declared before Oct 7th. At least show some honesty. Even a Hamas apologist can do that no?

[MrMojoRisin]

30 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Hamas intentions were to settle on the Israeli land and steal land from Israel 

 

If I steal your car and then you later on repossess it - have you then stolen my car?

[Nick Carter icp]

7 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

Repeating a lie or continuously denying a fact does not make sense but might makes you feel better.

What is that that did not happen in your opinion? All this 24/7 killing and destruction of everything are just lies? 4000 children killed in 3 weeks is a lie? What planet you are on?

 

 

   War crimes were committed by Hamas , they have been shown in this thread .

Israel hasn't committed any war crimes .

   The lie is by your stating that Israel committed war crimes. 

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, MrMojoRisin said:

 

If I steal your car and then you later on repossess it - have you then stolen my car?

 

   The land belongs to Israel , Palestinians were trying to steal Israel's land 

[Danny Australia]

15 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

This topic is about the war that started on the 7th October, check the heading if you don't believe me, there is enough of whataboutery on this thread without complicating it further.

 

Ignoring everything that led to the events of October 7th is absurd and doesn't make sense.

 

What happened prior to that date provides context for the events that unfolded.

 

You can choose to disregard the context if you wish, but doing so will not give you a clear view of the entire picture. As the head of the UN stated, the events on the 7th of October did not occur in a vacuum.

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Wrong.

 

   That depends on how many results a google search brings up 🙂 LOL 

[Wobblybob]

6 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

  Laugh out loud , just LOL 

The truth is now dependant on how many results come up on a google search 🙂

I just did a google search for "I am very clever"

I got 437 000 000 results 

Me and Einstein have similarities . 

   You are seriously saying that the amount of results a google search brings up means its true 

I am done with this idiocy and I cannot believe I am talking about this 

Einstein is famous for saying that if you run around a tree naked at the speed of light you have a chance of having sex with yourself, or you could read these anti semetic posts and achieve the same result.

[MrMojoRisin]

32 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Hamas ignored all international laws in their terror attack on Isreal

They sure did.

Keep working backwards.

You'll find many more breaches by both sides.

All the way back to the start of zionism in 1897.

[Thorgal]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

   War crimes were committed by Hamas , they have been shown in this thread .

Israel hasn't committed any war crimes .

   The lie is by your stating that Israel committed war crimes. 

 

So explain once and for all why bombing pregnant Palestinian women as retaliation is OK when they carry a boy, but they should not be bombed if they carry a girl?

 

Your quote :

 

"The pregnant woman would depend on whether she was having a male child or a female child .

  If shes having a Female child, then she shouldnt be bombed "

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1308598-israel-is-at-war/page/122/#comment-18439322

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, Danny Australia said:

 

Ignoring everything that led to the events of October 7th is absurd and doesn't make sense.

 

What happened prior to that date provides context for the events that unfolded.

 

You can choose to disregard the context if you wish, but doing so will not give you a clear view of the entire picture. As the head of the UN stated, the events on the 7th of October did not occur in a vacuum.

 

   Its tiring explaining the basics .

No one is ignoring the evens that happened before 7 th October 

Its like talking to children 

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

 

Ignoring everything that led to the events of October 7th is absurd and doesn't make sense.

 

What happened prior to that date provides context for the events that unfolded.

 

You can choose to disregard the context if you wish, but doing so will not give you a clear view of the entire picture. As the head of the UN stated, the events on the 7th of October did not occur in a vacuum.

Even the UN head stated there is NO justification for the 7/10 attacks, this is about what has happened since.

[Yellowtail]

37 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

It appears that whether a particular act is a war crime or not depends upon who the perpetrator is.

You've already proudly admitted you redefine actions to mean whatever you want them to mean, why should war crimes be any different?