ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[Morch]

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Well that's your opinion, I think you're well aware of mine, you can either like it or lump it.

Nothing will ever convince me Israel cannot take no blame in any of this going back to 1948.

I have nothing but respect for Jews, Christians, Muslims Buddhists or any other religion you want to mention, everyone has a choice to follow whatever they want to believe religion wise, the fact I personally choose not to follow a religion is my choice.
As for what you've spouted on your disagreements, go tell it to someone who cares because I don't.

 

Problem with you, and many other posters is that you see things in black and white. I'm not talking about the Hamas attack, though - that was as black as it gets. But with regard to the history of the conflict, there's a tendency of 'supporters' to do wholesale blaming on the 'other side'. History is usually more complex than what political narratives allow for.

 

Disregarding that, this topic is, indeed, focused about events set in motion on the 7/10. It is impossible to discuss current events while constantly going back to historical points of detail, all the more so when these are dished as described above.

[coolcarer]

7 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

102 UN condemnations against Israel before 7th of October 2023 are off topic. I wonder why?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-condemned-israel-more-than-all-other-countries-combined-in-2022-monitor/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel

 

Some 100+ UN workers have been killed in Gaza after 7th of October 2023 are off topic. I wonder why?

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/14/middleeast/united-nations-staff-deaths-gaza-intl-hnk/index.html

 

Some 42 Press staff workers have been killed in Gaza after 7th of October 2023 are off topic. I wonder why?

https://cpj.org/2023/11/journalist-casualties-in-the-israel-gaza-conflict/

 

Some 750 global journalists say media should cast Israeli actions as ‘genocide, apartheid’ but it's off topic. I wonder why?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/media/2023/11/09/open-letter-journalists-israel-gaza/

 

 

 

It's on topic if someone else wants to bring you back to a certain tunnel vision that is not in line with your opinion. I do not wonder why?

https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/tunnel-vision

 

 

Wrong. Tunnel vision is claiming the death of 42 press staff after 7th Oct is off topic. It’s not, who told you?

 

[Morch]

24 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

I didn't say it.... Trudeau did, am just the carrier of the news and not trying to troll and/or antagonise

 

Canadian PM Trudeau tells Israel killing of babies in Gaza must end

https://au.yahoo.com/news/canadian-pm-trudeau-tells-israel-225842403.html

 

From the linked report:

 

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Trudeau also said Hamas needed to stop using Palestinians as human shields and should release all its hostages.

 

[Yagoda]

On 11/13/2023 at 11:21 PM, Thorgal said:

 

I think (my opinion) France and US engaged in providing dedicated troops to do humanitarian work to evacuate Palestinian refugees. These troops can/should not be put into direct combat with Hamas.

 

Latest racial tendencies in Israel and Palestine against Palestinians doesn't allow a fair treatment if refugees need humanitarian work/aid directly from IDF.

 

Just my 2 cents...

 

Notice the word "racial". The antisemites and anti americans love that word.

[BarraMarra]

41 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Title thread is still "ISRAEL IS AT WAR !" has there ever been peace in the region since 1947/48?

Were jets flying over in 47 jeff flattening Gaza come on Man.

[BarraMarra]

As i am typing i am watching that pro hamas Channel there saying shots are being fired inside Al Shifa what a pack of lies. Surprise Surprise there also saying no Hostages have been found inside the Hospital Jesus Hamas have even said Biden is to blame for the IDF entering the hospital.

Edited November 15, 2023 by BarraMarra

[Jeff the Chef]

14 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Problem with you, and many other posters is that you see things in black and white. I'm not talking about the Hamas attack, though - that was as black as it gets. But with regard to the history of the conflict, there's a tendency of 'supporters' to do wholesale blaming on the 'other side'. History is usually more complex than what political narratives allow for.

 

Disregarding that, this topic is, indeed, focused about events set in motion on the 7/10. It is impossible to discuss current events while constantly going back to historical points of detail, all the more so when these are dished as described above.

The fact you would like to keep it focused on the terrible atrocities by Hamas on the 7th, has in my opinion got to be compared to what has gone on before from all sides.

That and the fact the thread title is ISRAEL IS AT WAR!

[BarraMarra]

Well sorry jeff I don't put members on ignore i just don't respond to their baiting so your now the naughty corner with Thorgal and the other ldiot do not Respond to me.

[coolcarer]

3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

The fact you would like to keep it focused on the terrible atrocities by Hamas on the 7th, has in my opinion got to be compared to what has gone on before from all sides.

That and the fact the thread title is ISRAEL IS AT WAR!

Over 200 hostages kidnapped on the 7th Oct disagree with you, including the babies and children

[BarraMarra]

AJ is stooping so low there now showing a new born with a black eye for ultimate propaganda. Sick.

[Jeff the Chef]

1 minute ago, BarraMarra said:

Well sorry jeff I don't put members on ignore i just don't respond to their baiting so your now the naughty corner with Thorgal and the other ldiot do not Respond to me.

Not a problem, if you don't want responses don't post, if you post and I have a point of view or opinion on your post, I will be responding, like it or not, your problem.

[BarraMarra]

2 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Over 200 hostages kidnapped on the 7th Oct disagree with you, including the babies and children

50 of them have been killed by Hamas Coolcarer and all Israeli Soldiers kidnapped have been killed by them even the Female Soldiers.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, BarraMarra said:

AJ is stooping so low there now showing a new born with a black eye for ultimate propaganda. Sick.

I doubt they'll be showing this then, all the medical aid IDF are bringing

 

 

https://twitter.com/Israel/status/1724740478401155494

 

[BarraMarra]

2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Not a problem, if you don't want responses don't post, if you post and I have a point of view or opinion on your post, I will be responding, like it or not, your problem.

Upto you but you won't get a reply.

[Jeff the Chef]

6 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Upto you but you won't get a reply.

Promises promises 

[Thorgal]

50 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

 

 

i don't agree with all Thorgal posts. I don't agree with all yours. But both of you have a credible opinion in this terrible conflict.

 

I support the right of both of you to express your views without ridicule.

 

As for me not being liked. I'm as sad as a cooked snail about to be popped into a Bar girl's mouth.

 

Thanks for your honest feedback that I'm not in line with your opinion (sometimes)! Really appreciated.

[Morch]

24 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

The fact you would like to keep it focused on the terrible atrocities by Hamas on the 7th, has in my opinion got to be compared to what has gone on before from all sides.

That and the fact the thread title is ISRAEL IS AT WAR!

 

You can keep trying to twist words about, no problem. There were enough management clarifications on the scope of this topic, it is you that choose to ignore them.

 

I have engaged many posters over the years regarding the history of the conflict, so it's not a question of unwillingness to do so, or being unable to make my points.

 

A time and a place and all that.

[coolcarer]

8 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Promises promises 

I don’t think he cares for your baiting Jeff. I don’t think he cares however you respond to him

[Wobblybob]

4 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

Thanks for your honest feedback that I'm not in line with your opinion (sometimes)! Really appreciated.

Don't get too carried away with owls approval, he is hardly Harold Bloom.

[Jeff the Chef]

3 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

I don’t think he cares for your baiting Jeff. I don’t think he cares however you respond to him

Not my problem, as already stated.

[coolcarer]

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Not my problem, as already stated.

I said he does not care how can it have been your problem….lol enjoy your party of one

[Jeff the Chef]

2 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

I said he does not care how can it have been your problem….lol enjoy your party of one

Will do, thanks.

[Jeff the Chef]

11 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

You can keep trying to twist words about, no problem. There were enough management clarifications on the scope of this topic, it is you that choose to ignore them.

 

I have engaged many posters over the years regarding the history of the conflict, so it's not a question of unwillingness to do so, or being unable to make my points.

 

A time and a place and all that.

ISRAEL IS AT WAR! still is.

[coolcarer]

3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Will do, thanks.

No surprise there. You are probably used to being ignored 

[Jeff the Chef]

9 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

No surprise there. You are probably used to being ignored 

Ok, fine, no problem to me.

[metisdead]

Off topic posts and the replies contravening our Community Standards have been removed.

[Jeff the Chef]

21 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Do you think it might have something to do with the Palestinians wanting to wipe out Israel, of course you don't.

I think you'll find the majority of the Muslim/Arab world would like that, my only concern is all the death and destruction will in the grand scheme of things mean nothing until all sections of the Human Race can get along in peace with one another, if this doesn't concern you as well can I suggest you go and help your side (whichever side you're on) out. My only side is peace, like it or not.

[Jeff the Chef]

Latest from the BBC Live:

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67423274

 

Posted at 20:0720:07
Trapped doctor on situation inside Al-Shifa after raid

Orla Guerin

Reporting from Jerusalem

We have managed to reach a doctor trapped inside Al-Shifa Hospital, a site of urgent humanitarian need that was entered by Israeli forces overnight.

Dr Ahmed Mokhallalati's frustration, anger and concern for his patients poured out, down the line.

He asked where the Red Cross and British and American governments were.

 

 

Edited November 15, 2023 by metisdead
Edited as per fair use policy.

[Neeranam]

2 hours ago, owl sees all said:

This is out of order BM.

 

Because you do not agree with the poster you ridicule him. Do get a life.

I can't believe I read what you quoted.

Toxic to the max. 

 

[Morch]

24 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Latest from the BBC Live:

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67423274

 

Posted at 20:0720:07
Trapped doctor on situation inside Al-Shifa after raid

Orla Guerin

Reporting from Jerusalem

We have managed to reach a doctor trapped inside Al-Shifa Hospital, a site of urgent humanitarian need that was entered by Israeli forces overnight.

Dr Ahmed Mokhallalati's frustration, anger and concern for his patients poured out, down the line.

He asked where the Red Cross and British and American governments were.

 

 

 

There are pictures of medical supplies being offloaded at the hospital by the IDF. The attitude of by some doctors of refusing to receive medical supplies etc. (in the link provided) is sickening. Their priority ought to be saving lives, not playing games.