2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

 

That's 2 answers not saying anything but deflect.

 

 

Deflect what? The poster didn't bother linking anything that could be debated. He made a claim bases on something he said he saw. Given his posting history on this topic, no need to take his words for granted. And, if the Israeli Ambassador behaved like an *ss (he often does), how's that news or central to the topic?

 

2 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Would have been more appropriate to provide a link to a full interview rather than an edited bit. If that lifted from AJ or something?

Also, that's Marc 'river-to-the-sea' Lemont Hill there, so the drama and rudeness are to be expected. Not the most impartial of news hosts etc.

 

To the point - it goes back to people's perceptions of what's allowed vs. what is allowed.

I think FB only allows snippets, that’s all I saw.

Just now, JBChiangRai said:

I think FB only allows snippets, that’s all I saw.

 

Yeah, maybe that's one reason linking social media is frowned upon on news topics...?

 

2 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

If you read his book “The Strange Death Of Europe” you might not think so; however, you won’t find it in the fiction department, so you may not be able to locate it.

Far right wing nonsense.

 

https://theintercept.com/2018/12/25/strange-death-of-europe-douglas-murray-review/

 

Consider his “highly intellectual” status fully revoked.

1 minute ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Far right wing nonsense.

 

https://theintercept.com/2018/12/25/strange-death-of-europe-douglas-murray-review/

 

Consider his “highly intellectual” status fully revoked.

 

Maybe it would be better is posters on both 'sides' could make their own arguments without resorting to words of others, or hyping them when it suits.

6 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Far right wing nonsense.

 

https://theintercept.com/2018/12/25/strange-death-of-europe-douglas-murray-review/

 

Consider his “highly intellectual” status fully revoked.

•  
• Overall, we rate The Intercept progressive Left Biased based on story selection that routinely favors the left. We also rate them as Mostly Factual in reporting rather than High due to previous fabricated work and censorship of writers.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/

 

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Gross distortion as expected. 

Care to elaborate?

34 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Maybe it would be better is posters on both 'sides' could make their own arguments without resorting to words of others, or hyping them when it suits.

Ignore experts?

Sounds silly.

 

11 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Ignore experts?

Sounds silly.

 

 

Well, you cited Sand, who's not an 'expert'. The other poster cited someone from the other side of the political map.....and so on.

 

44 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

•  
• Overall, we rate The Intercept progressive Left Biased based on story selection that routinely favors the left. We also rate them as Mostly Factual in reporting rather than High due to previous fabricated work and censorship of writers.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/

 

 

From your link:

 

 

Thanks for confirming The Intercept's credibility.

Probably best not to cite any books, its all just deflection and designed to steer away from the topic........jeez

15 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Probably best not to cite any books, its all just deflection and designed to steer away from the topic........jeez

 

No it's not.

The more books cited the better.

From both sides.

I have already added "The Strange Death of Europe" to my reading list.

 

The only reason to bother posting in forums such as this one is to learn, to test ones own beliefs and if the facts require it, change ones opinions.

 

Only the small minded think they are here to "win".

 

Here's an interesting link:

 

https://www.vox.com/23924319/israel-palestine-apartheid-meaning-history-debate

 

Read it, question what is being said and if you cannot refute it - change your opinion.

 

Just now, MrMojoRisin said:

 

No it's not.

The more books cited the better.

From both sides.

I have already added "The Strange Death of Europe" to my reading list.

 

The only reason to bother posting in forums such as this one is to learn, to test ones own beliefs and if the facts require it, change ones opinions.

 

Only the small minded think they are here to "win".

 

More off topic nonsense from the resident Hamas apologist

6 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

From your link:

 

 

Thanks for confirming The Intercept's credibility.

Yes it also says that they fabricate stories, but we'll gloss over that eh as it may be taking this thread off route. Suffice to say that most of your links come from extreme left wing source.🥴

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

More off topic nonsense from the resident Hamas apologist

 

Another meaningless post.

Why do you bother?

Why don't you just ignore anything that doesn't interest you?

My guess is, that 185 pages in, you have learned nothing.

 

Do us all a favour and keep your pessimistic snide nonsense to yourself.

6 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

Another meaningless post.

Why do you bother?

Why don't you just ignore anything that doesn't interest you?

My guess is, that 185 pages in, you have learned nothing.

 

Do us all a favour and keep your pessimistic snide nonsense to yourself.

Accuse other posters of which you are guilty.🥴

Just now, MrMojoRisin said:

 

Another meaningless post.

Why do you bother?

Why don't you just ignore anything that doesn't interest you?

My guess is, that 185 pages in, you have learned nothing.

 

Do us all a favour and keep your pessimistic snide nonsense to yourself.

The meaningless post was you thinking this was a book club but expected from an apologist

4 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Yes it also says that they fabricate stories, but we'll gloss over that eh as it may be taking this thread off route. Suffice to say that most of your links come from extreme left wing source.🥴

 

They fired a journalist for fabricating quotes.

 

The Intercept has been criticized by both Republicans and Democrats,...

 

Upsetting both sides of US politics, as far as I'm concerned, means you're on the right track.

1 minute ago, Wobblybob said:

Accuse other posters of which you are guilty.🥴

Wobbly logic there Bob.

5 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

They fired a journalist for fabricating quotes.

 

The Intercept has been criticized by both Republicans and Democrats,...

 

Upsetting both sides of US politics, as far as I'm concerned, means you're on the right track.

Are you incapable of staying on topic and have to resort to posting extreme left wing dross!

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The meaningless post was you thinking this was a book club but expected from an apologist

 

Recommendations of books to read.

Easily the top reason I spend any time at all on these boards.

 

I especially enjoy reading books at odds with my personal views and the best place to find them is, I've found, here.

 

I have absolutely zero interest at all in scoring points against anonymous keyboard warriors.

How utterly meaningless.

I am looking for strong arguments against which to test my beliefs.

 

I'd rather be right than "win" and if that means a bit of self reflection and changing of opinions and views - I am all for it.

 

As far as I'm concerned, if I am wrong, the sooner I become aware of my error, the better.

6 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Are you incapable of staying on topic and have to resort to posting extreme left wing dross!

 

I am responding to your post Bob, if it's off topic, it's your fault.

Just now, MrMojoRisin said:

 

Recommendations of books to read.

Easily the top reason I spend any time at all on these boards.

 

I especially enjoy reading books at odds with my personal views and the best place to find them is, I've found, here.

 

I have absolutely zero interest at all in scoring points against anonymous keyboard warriors.

How utterly meaningless.

I am looking for strong arguments against which to test my beliefs.

 

I'd rather be right than "win" and if that means a bit of self reflection and changing of opinions and views - I am all for it.

 

As far as I'm concerned, if I am wrong, the sooner I become aware of my error, the better.

This notice is pinned at the top of this forum:

The War in Israel

Latest developments and discussion of events in the Israel-Hamas War.

 

Not your personal book club troll

6 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

I am responding to your post Bob, if it's off topic, it's your fault.

Sure it's not the jews fault?

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

This notice is pinned at the top of this forum:

The War in Israel

Latest developments and discussion of events in the Israel-Hamas War.

 

Not your personal book club troll

 

To be honest Brian, at 185 pages in, I've yet to read a single post of yours that added any value to the discussion on the Israel - Hamas war. It is nothing but complaints from you. No one cares about your whinging. The moderators will moderate. How about you try and contribute something worthwhile for a change?

 

The current death toll of Palestinian kids is 2,913 - what do you think about that?

4 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Sure it's not the jews fault?

 

Come on Bob, ease up on the antisemitism.

5 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

Come on Bob, ease up on the antisemitism.

Ease up on the trolling!🥴

Just now, MrMojoRisin said:

 

To be honest Brian, at 185 pages in, I've yet to read a single post of yours that added any value to the discussion on the Israel - Hamas war. It is nothing but complaints from you. No one cares about your whinging. The moderators will moderate. How about you try and contribute something worthwhile for a change?

 

The current death toll of Palestinian kids is 2,913 - what do you think about that?

To be honest Brian, at 185 pages in, I've yet to read a single post of yours that added any value to the discussion on the Israel - Hamas war. 

 

No surprise from the resident Hamas supporter. 

 

 

Back on topic with no added book titles needed.

 

This isn't a war Israel started - government spokesman

Eylon Levy is a spokesperson for the Israeli government and he insists the country is "sick with worry" for the fate of the 230 people taken hostage three weeks ago.

He tells BBC Radio 5 Live the 7 October attack by Hamas was “one of the most spectacular massacres in human history”, and that Israel is “determined that that will never happen again”.

“This isn't a war that Israel started," Levy says. "This isn't a war that Israel even expected. It's a war that Hamas launched and declared against us.”

2 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

This cropped up on my Facebook feed, it was a point @bobbin was making the other day.  

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/DajqdRBgYco?si=aY3MX6nrAa_In_2R

 

looks like you plucked this from a site.