Online notification of TM 30

[zenobit]

Yesterday, together with my wife, I tried to complete the TM 30 notification online, which has recently become necessary for a visa extension in Pattaya (...I have been living in my wife's house as a "tenant" for over 10 years with a non-immigrant O visa and have never filled out a TM 30).

 

However, after about an hour, despite extensive research, we had to abort the online notification because too many questions arose while filling it out for which we could not find an answer.

I'll just write down which points we found misleading. If there is anyone who has done the TM 30 online registration before, I would be grateful if they could help me.

 

SREENSHOT-1:
a) Date of stay "From" in my case would be the date after the last entry (i.e. more than 10 years ago) ... correct?
b) Date of stay "To" refers from date of departure. However, I live here and do not plan to leave ... what should I enter there? (mandatory entry)

c) Under "Add" a window opens for further entries (screenshot-2) and next to it is a button for uploading an Excel spreadsheet (screenshot-3) in which exactly the same information must be entered as in the "Add" window. Is downloading, filling in and uploading the Excel spreadsheet a must?

 

SCREENSHOT-2:
"Check-in Data": would be in my case again the date after the last entry (i.e. more than 10 years ago) ... correct?

[Will B Good]

a) I chop and change between the date I arrived on my 90 day and the date I last entered.

 

b) I put the end date of the current extension.

 

c) From memory that fills itself.... might be wrong

 

It always seems to work whatever dates I put in???

 

Think you are correct re: screenshot-2

[Caldera]

Note that the form on top, where "To" is a required field, is a search form.

 

When you add a record with the form below, "Check-out date" is optional. As a resident, you can and should leave it empty. This is primarily for hotels registering guests.

[Mutt Daeng]

a) The date you arrived at your address when you last entered Thailand

b) Already answered by @Caldera

c) No need to use excel spreadsheet at all.

Edited October 26, 2023 by Mutt Daeng

[zenobit]

©Will B Good, ©Caldera, ©Mutt Daeng
THANK YOU FOR THE HELPFUL SUPPORT! 🙏
I'll try again later and let you know if it worked.

[Blablaat]

A brand new system... and still no way to print out a receipt to put into your passport. Something immigration loves and wants.

[nauseus]

13 minutes ago, zenobit said:

©Will B Good, ©Caldera, ©Mutt Daeng
THANK YOU FOR THE HELPFUL SUPPORT! 🙏
I'll try again later and let you know if it worked.

OK thanks.

 

Please let us know if, after the end of the process, you can get a printable TM30 receipt that can stay in your passport?

 

Cheers

 

 

[Blablaat]

7 minutes ago, nauseus said:

OK thanks.

 

Please let us know if, after the end of the process, you can get a printable TM30 receipt that can stay in your passport?

 

Cheers

 

 

Haha NO

 

One time they still send you back to get the printout and tell you to take a screenshot with you so you do not need to fill in other documents... pfff . Do they ever think things through? At least they made the check-out date optional. It was first mandatory in the new system.

Edited October 26, 2023 by Blablaat

[Tropicalevo]

7 minutes ago, nauseus said:

OK thanks.

 

Please let us know if, after the end of the process, you can get a printable TM30 receipt that can stay in your passport?

 

Cheers

 

 

Here on Samui, immigration accept the screenshot. The only form in my passport is the TM 90.

[zenobit]

4 hours ago, Mutt Daeng said:

a) The date you arrived at your address when you last entered Thailand

b) Already answered by @Caldera

c) No need to use excel spreadsheet at all.

Unfortunately, it does not work as expected. When I open the "Add" window and then enter the time of my last entry under "Check-In Date", the message "Check-In Date must be within 24 hour" appears when I save. 😕

[BritTim]

2 hours ago, zenobit said:

Unfortunately, it does not work as expected. When I open the "Add" window and then enter the time of my last entry under "Check-In Date", the message "Check-In Date must be within 24 hour" appears when I save. 😕

 

You are required to lie and state that the TM30 notification was done within 24 hours of arrival at the property (as required by the law). Do not worry about it. Just specify today's date as the check in date and, if queried, state that you are making a new report after a short domestic trip.

[zenobit]

11 minutes ago, BritTim said:

 

You are required to lie and state that the TM30 notification was done within 24 hours of arrival at the property (as required by the law). Do not worry about it....

 

Are you sure it's a good idea to provide false information to immigration? 🙄

[BritTim]

1 minute ago, zenobit said:

 

Are you sure it's a good idea to provide false information to immigration? 🙄

 

The alternative is to do the TM30 notification in person at the immigration office (where the report within 24 hours of arrival is not enforced). The online system assumes scrupulous adherence to the law.

[Blablaat]

The system is silly, so just go with the flow. If you never filled in a tm30 before you are a criminal already. Well, technically your wife. But the tm30 mess is all put on the foreigner, while the law states he/she has nothing to do with it. It is a responsibility for the property owner. So the owner should be fined and what else not. But hey, this is Thailand. Common sense is again somewhere on holiday.

 

ps you cannot search far back too. So be sure to make that screenshot right away.

[zenobit]

It seems to me to be too risky to make the report with incorrect information and because it doesn't work online with the correct information for me, I will have to visit immigration in Jomtien with my wife at the beginning of next week.

 

I'm not looking forward to it... 😟

[Caldera]

24 minutes ago, zenobit said:

It seems to me to be too risky to make the report with incorrect information and because it doesn't work online with the correct information for me, I will have to visit immigration in Jomtien with my wife at the beginning of next week.

 

I'm not looking forward to it... 😟

 

Do you go on trips sometimes? If you check into a hotel somewhere for one night, it would be perfectly legal to submit a new TM30 report when you return home, with your return date as "check-in" date.

[jcmj]

Is there an app or can somebody please give me the link to the website? I live in a house I built almost 20 years ago, in company name, and haven’t left the country in over 10 years. Getting old and this is confusing to me. Thanks 🙏 

[Mutt Daeng]

2 hours ago, jcmj said:

Is there an app or can somebody please give me the link to the website? I live in a house I built almost 20 years ago, in company name, and haven’t left the country in over 10 years. Getting old and this is confusing to me. Thanks 🙏 

 

Lots of good info here including link to new site. Section38 app no longer works on the new TM30 system.

 

 

Edited October 27, 2023 by Mutt Daeng
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[cab driver]

I think there’re making it more problematic at Jomtien for either the 90 day report or renewing a TM30 with more paperwork, because now the facilities at Jomtien Immigration have been improved.  It’s the only thing that make any sense!

[Halfaboy]

9 hours ago, zenobit said:

It seems to me to be too risky to make the report with incorrect information and because it doesn't work online with the correct information for me, I will have to visit immigration in Jomtien with my wife at the beginning of next week.

 

I'm not looking forward to it... 😟

 

Did this last Tuesday (alone). No problem at all. Make sure you have copies and bring this to the information desk. A lady will staple the lot including a tm30 form (which does not need to be completed) and bring the papers to the opposite building. Hand in and after e few minutes you get your passport back including stamped tm30 slip. The whole procedure took almost the same time as I am writing this contribution. 

Have fun....

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, Halfaboy said:

 

Did this last Tuesday (alone). No problem at all. Make sure you have copies and bring this to the information desk. A lady will staple the lot including a tm30 form (which does not need to be completed) and bring the papers to the opposite building. Hand in and after e few minutes you get your passport back including stamped tm30 slip. The whole procedure took almost the same time as I am writing this contribution. 

Have fun....

 

Copies of what? Which info desk and opposite what?

 

TIA

[zenobit]

18 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Copies of what? ...

 

If we can trust thaiembassy.com, then you need copies of the following documents:

[hotandsticky]

3 minutes ago, zenobit said:

If we can trust thaiembassy.com, then you need copies of the following documents:

 

 

 

You can't trust that site.

 

 

A number of inaccuracies have been previously reported.

[khunPer]

On 10/26/2023 at 8:36 AM, zenobit said:

"Check-in Data": would be in my case again the date after the last entry (i.e. more than 10 years ago) ... correct?

I use the new online TM30 report system – this version is only about a month old – you cannot register a start date before the actual date.

 

You don't need to use the tablet-form to register your stay. When you have registered (your wife) as house master, there is a very simple form to add new residents of the house.

 

When logging in you'll start with the search form, click on +Add at lower left...

 

 

Then the "Add"-form opens. Mark the house in upper left box, fill in the form – arrival date will be date of filling the form – and "Save".

 

[nauseus]

29 minutes ago, khunPer said:

I use the new online TM30 report system – this version is only about a month old – you cannot register a start date before the actual date.

 

You don't need to use the tablet-form to register your stay. When you have registered (your wife) as house master, there is a very simple form to add new residents of the house.

 

When logging in you'll start with the search form, click on +Add at lower left...

 

 

Then the "Add"-form opens. Mark the house in upper left box, fill in the form – arrival date will be date of filling the form – and "Save".

 

 

Thanks. But is there a printable receipt available at the end of it all?

[Mutt Daeng]

14 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Thanks. But is there a printable receipt available at the end of it all?

No. You can only take a screenshot of the report.

[khunPer]

22 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Thanks. But is there a printable receipt available at the end of it all?

You can log out and log in again. Then use the search function where your table-line with registration will appear. Print the line. My – extremely strict Koh Samui – immigration office accepts that, they actually also check online and will find you in the system.

[zenobit]

IT IS DONE! 🙏
Just came from immigration in Jomtien, where my wife — who is also my landlady — has filled out a TM 30 application and submitted it together with various copies (see below).

 

The confirmation (see below) was stapled on the page before the "90 day notification" in the passport and is valid at least here in Chonburi according to official as a prerequisite for a visa extension.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 31, 2023 by zenobit

[Kopitiam]

12 minutes ago, zenobit said:

IT IS DONE! 🙏
Just came from immigration in Jomtien, where my wife — who is also my landlady — has filled out a TM 30 application and submitted it together with various copies (see below).

 

The confirmation (see below) was stapled on the page before the "90 day notification" in the passport and is valid at least here in Chonburi according to official as a prerequisite for a visa extension.

 

 

 

 

So, no online registration required?

[Caldera]

12 minutes ago, Kopitiam said:

So, no online registration required?

 

You can do it either online or at your immigration office. You don't need to do both.