Israel says it is carrying out ‘precise and targeted operation’ in Gaza’s Al-Shifa Hospital

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, coolcarer said:

Al Jazeera shows you want they want to show you and censors everything including those inside the hospital complaining about Hamas. If you didn’t have so many people on ignore you’d see all the videos. Yes IDF have doctors and medics with them.

Given it's a war, everything is subject to propaganda, but personally I'll take Al Jazeera version over israeli version, as Al Jazeera isn't actually involved in the war itself.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, 2baht said:

But innocent children ARE NOT Hamas! Israel are indicriminate killers! Can't you see that???

As I said previously, Palestians need to take their Children out of the warzone and Hamas need to stop using civilians as human shields , otherwise children will get caught in the cross fire  

[Morch]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

 including 4,609 children 

 

@Neeranam

 

There aren't that many children inside the hospital.

 

The casualty figures you quote are from Hamas. Treating them as fact is a choice. Most respectable media outlets mentions the source. You do not.

 

At least you don't claim they are all babies now, that's something.

Edited November 15, 2023 by Morch

[2baht]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

As I said previously, Palestians need to take their Children out of the warzone and Hamas need to stop using civilians as human shields , otherwise children will get caught in the cross fire  

It's not cross fire, it's murder!

[giddyup]

40 minutes ago, NickyLouie said:

 

Obviously you're a fan of propaganda. 

 

    

From who, the Israelis or the Palestinians?

[coolcarer]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Given it's a war, everything is subject to propaganda, but personally I'll take Al Jazeera version over israeli version, as Al Jazeera isn't actually involved in the war itself.

Facts are not subject to propoganda when you view an AL Jazeera reporter ignoring and quickly panning away from those in the hospital complaining about Hamas

[NickyLouie]

2 minutes ago, 2baht said:

But innocent children ARE NOT Hamas! Israel are indicriminate killers! Can't you see that???

 

indicriminate ?  

 

Guess those 250 innocent hostages and their suffering is irrelevant to a genius like yourself.

 

Hamas could have surrendered, released the hostages and preserved their pathetic little dirt patch, obviously they chose otherwise.

 

Actions have consequences.... 

   

 

[Morch]

30 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps you should go join the israeli army and kill Palestinians, as that is what you seem in favour of. Don't just talk about it on here, just do it.

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

You do your fair share of talking - don't know that you do anything other than that either.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, 2baht said:

It's not cross fire, it's murder!

 

  Civilians and children aren't being deliberately targeted , so its cross fire and it isn't murder 

[Patong2]

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Are you aware that communications were lost with the hospital a while back, so are those lights and computers on right NOW?

There were 8 or so babies lying together on a table that had supposedly been taken out of incubators because there was no power to run the incubators, yet there was power to the room they were in.

 

Bit like the shots of the outside of a hospital that had no water or fuel.

The apartments in the background had washing hanging on the balcony of nearly every apartment.

 

Truth is the First Casualty of War - a great book

[2baht]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Civilians and children aren't being deliberately targeted , so its cross fire and it isn't murder 

Tell me why there are 5000 dead children, so far, in Gaza!

[Wobblybob]

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Given it's a war, everything is subject to propaganda, but personally I'll take Al Jazeera version over israeli version, as Al Jazeera isn't actually involved in the war itself.

No surprise there then.🥴

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, coolcarer said:

Facts are not subject to propoganda when you view an AL Jazeera reporter ignoring and quickly panning away from those in the hospital complaining about Hamas

To know that you must be able to speak Arabic, as they ain't speaking in English. Do you speak Arabic?

I've watched a lot of Al Jazeera recently, but haven't seen any of what you say.

If they do censor what they show, why wouldn't they just cut out those bits?

[herfiehandbag]

1 minute ago, Patong2 said:

There were 8 or so babies lying together on a table that had supposedly been taken out of incubators because there was no power to run the incubators, yet there was power to the room they were in.

 

Bit like the shots of the outside of a hospital that had no water or fuel.

The apartments in the background had washing hanging on the balcony of nearly every apartment.

 

Truth is the First Casualty of War - a great book

But, but, but Al Jazeera said...

[Morch]

32 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

CNN obviously believe them, but understandable if Islamophobes don't.

 

@Neeranam

 

CNN references the source.

You accept it wholesale.

 

That difference.

[Morch]

20 minutes ago, 2baht said:

There ARE NO safe places, the murdering Israeli's are making sure of that!

 

Safer places, for sure - if there weren't any there would be far more casualties.

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, 2baht said:

Tell me why there are 5000 dead children, so far, in Gaza!

 

 Because their Parents didn't take them to a safer area and they stayed in a war zone

[Morch]

16 minutes ago, 2baht said:

A better solution would be for the murdering Israeli's to get the hell out of Gaza!

 

Hamas can release the hostages, this would go toward ending the fighting.

Israel retreating now, with hostages in Hamas hands, and Hamas leadership in place would be awarding terrorists for actions.

[Wobblybob]

9 minutes ago, 2baht said:

But innocent children ARE NOT Hamas! Israel are indicriminate killers! Can't you see that???

Hamas started this war, can you not see that. No mention of the Palestinian killers so what can we conclude from that! Nobody would be getting killed on either side but for the evil terrorists. 

[Morch]

14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Are you aware that communications were lost with the hospital a while back, so are those lights and computers on right NOW?

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

Are you aware that this is not true? The IDF managed to contact hospital management more than once.

[coolcarer]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

To know that you must be able to speak Arabic, as they ain't speaking in English. Do you speak Arabic?

I've watched a lot of Al Jazeera recently, but haven't seen any of what you say.

If they do censor what they show, why wouldn't they just cut out those bits?

It’s not up to me to show you. I don’t use an ignore list. I am not ignorant to what is posted on this forum, with links to sources. Unlike you.

[Morch]

14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Indeed, it would be, but the israelis are making sure that not much is left to live in. Why else would they need so many bombs?

 

We are now joined by @thaibeachlovers, the military expert.....

[ezzra]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

 including 4,609 children 

Didn't see you making any comments when dozens of Israeli babies and children were deliberately and brutally massacred with some having their heads and limbs hacked and dozens more that have been kidnapped by soul less barbarians against children...

[Morch]

13 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Genocide!

 

In your mind, perhaps.

In reality, not so much.

 

Think about the bomb to casualty ratio and you'll see how daft your comment is.

[Wobblybob]

4 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Tell me why there are 5000 dead children, so far, in Gaza!

Because Hamas told you and you soaked it up.

[herfiehandbag]

15 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Given it's a war, everything is subject to propaganda, but personally I'll take Al Jazeera version over israeli version, as Al Jazeera isn't actually involved in the war itself.

Now then; Al Jazeera owned by and run by Quatar government.

 

Now where do the bosses of Hamas live and operate from?

[Morch]

14 minutes ago, 2baht said:

It's not cross fire, it's murder!

 

Because Hamas doesn't shoot back, right?

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, Patong2 said:

There were 8 or so babies lying together on a table that had supposedly been taken out of incubators because there was no power to run the incubators, yet there was power to the room they were in.

 

Bit like the shots of the outside of a hospital that had no water or fuel.

The apartments in the background had washing hanging on the balcony of nearly every apartment.

 

Truth is the First Casualty of War - a great book

Gee, those Al Jazeera censors must be the most incompetent censors on the planet!

 

I'll add some so you don't have to. saying there is no fuel, but showing cars driving to the south, saying no fuel, but showing fire hoses being operated putting out fires caused by israeli bombs, no fuel for machinery, but a digger removing rubble of a building blown up by the israelis to find buried bodies.

 

Sure, some shots better deleted to prove one sides' view. Why they were left in I don't know.

What I do believe is that israel dropped over 6,000 bombs on a defenseless people, because the israelis said they did. Over 6,000 bombs is killing a lot of defenseless people. Whether it's 5,000 children or 500 children dead it's too many.

 

Otherwise, I believe what netanyahu says, and it's monstrous.

[Bkk Brian]

16 minutes ago, 2baht said:

It's not cross fire, it's murder!

No murder and much worse is what happened on the 7th Oct, lets have some honesty here

[ezzra]

12 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Tell me why there are 5000 dead children, so far, in Gaza!

Hey, why don't you ask the Hamas who uses civilians as human shields and forces them to stay in north Gaza to be use as a cannon fodder so to invoke the pity of the world, for Hamas, the more dead children the better, not to mention Hamas constructed a city of terror tunnels under schools, kinder gardens, mosques and hospitals again thinking they'll be safe there... Go on, ask them...

Edited November 15, 2023 by ezzra