Do you really need protein powder?

[georgegeorgia]

I have been taking protein powder for many years as I have been lifting weights

I come to the conclusion lately it hasn't been doing anything for me except put weight on !!!!

 

Even the specialist doctor I saw in Australia told me the same ,he was a endocrinologist , why you taking these chemicals he asked 

Just eat eggs and meat he said 

 

Your weight is high because of these protein milkshakes !

 

 So do we as old men need protein powder ?

What happens if we don't get it ?

 

All the Instagram influencers going on about protein 

 

I'm just eating eggs etc 

I'm thinking this stuff is not only expensive but I'm keeping my weight high ?

 

 

Edited December 3, 2023 by georgegeorgia

[bignok]

I buy INC. $40 for 2kgs on special. I put it into water.

Milk makes you fat. Your DR is an idiot.

 

Do you need it? Well no if you eat 4 eggs plus steak daily.

 

I cant eats eggs and steak daily so take powder.

 

The cheapest powder for nutrition is cacao from coles or aldi. Protein, magnesium etc

 

 

 

 

[PremiumLane]

33 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

I have been taking protein powder for many years as I have been lifting weights

I come to the conclusion lately it hasn't been doing anything for me except put weight on !!!!

 

Even the specialist doctor I saw in Australia told me the same ,he was a endocrinologist , why you taking these chemicals he asked 

Just eat eggs and meat he said 

 

Your weight is high because of these protein milkshakes !

 

 So do we as old men need protein powder ?

What happens if we don't get it ?

 

All the Instagram influencers going on about protein 

 

I'm just eating eggs etc 

I'm thinking this stuff is not only expensive but I'm keeping my weight high ?

 

 

 

Spoiler alert, eggs are made of chemicals as well. 

Edited December 3, 2023 by PremiumLane

[Moonlover]

It's all a load of marketing hype in my opinion. I've never imbibed protein powder in my life, nor have I ever lifted weights or even visited a gym for that matter and am still fit, healthy and sickness free at 77 years. (78 next month)

 

A good diet, moderate daily exercise and plenty of fresh air are the basic requirements. Add in a stress free life style and good breathing and you've got it made.

 

 

[bignok]

Just now, Moonlover said:

It's all a load of marketing hype in my opinion. I've never imbibed protein powder in my life, nor have I ever lifted weights or even visited a gym for that matter and am still fit, healthy and sickness free at 77 years. (78 next month)

 

A good diet, moderate daily exercise and plenty of fresh air are the basic requirements. Add in a stress free life style and good breathing and you've got it made.

 

 

Thats why you dont take powder. You dont lift weights.

[QuantumQuandry]

It's fairly simple, imo.

 

(Sufficient protein from food) > (Sufficient protein from food and powder) > (Not enough protein)

 

Protein powder is to help you get enough protein, which can be hard for some people to get through their normal diet, due to time constraints or laziness.

 

If you can get enough protein by eating whole foods, that's optimal.  But if you can't get enough protein that way, protein powder is better than not having enough.  And most people don't get enough because the target number for a gym rat is higher than you would think.

[bignok]

3 minutes ago, QuantumQuandry said:

It's fairly simple, imo.

 

(Sufficient protein from food) > (Sufficient protein from food and powder) > (Not enough protein)

 

Protein powder is to help you get enough protein, which can be hard for some people to get through their normal diet, due to time constraints or laziness.

 

If you can get enough protein by eating whole foods, that's optimal.  But if you can't get enough protein that way, protein powder is better than not having enough.  And most people don't get enough because the target number for a gym rat is higher than you would think.

It also absorbs faster. Recover quicker.

[QuantumQuandry]

34 minutes ago, bignok said:

It also absorbs faster. Recover quicker.

 

At best, it's debatable and won't apply to most people.  Nothing against protein powder but it's best application is simply convenience.

 

 

Edited December 3, 2023 by QuantumQuandry

[bignok]

Just now, QuantumQuandry said:

 

At best, it's debatable and won't apply to most people.

 

 

It takes about 20 minutes to feel a difference. I also take pre workout. That gives a massive energy burst.

 

Without powders I have low energy. Normal food doesnt cut it for me.

 

 

[bignok]

The best powder for energy and weight loss is ALCAR. The op probably should take that. 

 

 

Edited December 3, 2023 by bignok

[bignok]

13 minutes ago, QuantumQuandry said:

Nothing against protein powder but it's best application is simply convenience.

 

Normal food is fine for non exercisers. 

 

 

[JeffersLos]

2 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Your weight is high because of these protein milkshakes !

 milkshakes?

 

You mix it it water not milk lol. 

 

I am in my 60s and have been taking protein powder for around 2 years to slow muscles deterioration. 1 scoop mixed into a big glass of water and mixed. 

 

Around 30 grams on days that I don't exercise and 60 grams on an exercise day. 

 

No weight gain, but increased muscles mass. 

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[Moonlover]

1 hour ago, bignok said:

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

It's all a load of marketing hype in my opinion. I've never imbibed protein powder in my life, nor have I ever lifted weights or even visited a gym for that matter and am still fit, healthy and sickness free at 77 years. (78 next month)

 

1 hour ago, bignok said:

Thats why you dont take powder. You dont lift weights.

 

Which means I've never fallen for the marketing hype. See it which ever way you want to.

Edited December 3, 2023 by Moonlover

[bignok]

Just now, Moonlover said:

 

 

Which means I've never fallen for the marketing hype. See it which ever way you want it.

What hype? 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

I was skinny as hell as a teenager and took a thing called Body Bulk. Made me bigger and fatter. Then moved to protein powder. It did seem to make a difference. Someone at the time said it was a waste because I was getting sufficient protein from my meat eating diet.

I do a lot of gym now but no powder. I think as you get older such things are not good for you even if it means a bit less bulky muscle. This is subjective though - haven't looked into it. As your metabolism isn't the same as a teenager don't think supplements are good for your organs..

[BigStar]

2 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

I come to the conclusion lately it hasn't been doing anything for me except put weight on !!!!

That's owing to excess useless calories otherwise, notably carbs. Also, lifting some weights doesn't mean you're automatically slim, fit, and healthy. I see old beer guts lifting weights in the gym all the time.

 

 

2 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Even the specialist doctor I saw in Australia told me the same ,he was a endocrinologist , why you taking these chemicals he asked 

Just eat eggs and meat he said 

You probably just made that up, typically.

 

Anyway, you have no idea of the exact amount of protein you're getting and your specific requirements.

 

Sheryl weighed in the other day, accurately as always:

 

 

So, yeah, protein powder's a good thing. Besides other times, esp. good after a workout. I always prepare a protein shake to bring to the gym with me.

 

Creatine's also good for you aging brains.

 

Edited December 3, 2023 by BigStar

[connda]

If you are seriously body-building, then yeah, protein powder has its place in a body-builder's diet. 
If you are not a competition body-builder, then the protein you eat normally should suffice. 
 

[FolkGuitar]

1 hour ago, bignok said:

It takes about 20 minutes to feel a difference. I also take pre workout. That gives a massive energy burst.

 

Without powders I have low energy. Normal food doesnt cut it for me.

 

 

 

Could you explain how protein gives you a 'massive energy burst' please?

The body can burn sugars for energy. The body can burn fats for energy.

What biological function burns protein for cellular energy other than Ketosis, which takes a few days of very limited carbs for the body to achieve? Ketosis doesn't happen just when one decides to take a protein powder.  Yes... the body CAN convert protein into Ketone bodies which the body can burn (that's ketosis, and the principle behind the Keto Diet,) but this won't happen unless your body is almost depleted of stored glycogen. It will NOT happen if you had a few beers last night.

 

Protein is great for muscle-building. But the human body can only make use of just 'so much' and excretes the rest. If you are body-building you need more protein than if you are just exercising for good body condition, and the extra powder 'may' be of benefit. 'May' be... if your diet consists of McDonalds, 7-Eleven ham&cheese sandwiches, and other processed foods.  Otherwise, a healthy diet is all we need. When exercising, have a few more eggs, some fish, meat, cheese... 

Edited December 3, 2023 by FolkGuitar

[bignok]

6 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

 

Could you explain how protein gives you a 'massive energy burst' please?

The body can burn sugars for energy. The body can burn fats for energy.

What biological function burns protein for cellular energy other than Ketosis, which takes a few days of very limited carbs for the body to achieve? Ketosis doesn't happen just when one decides to take a protein powder.  Yes... the body CAN convert protein into Ketone bodies which the body can burn (that's ketosis, and the principle behind the Keto Diet,) but this won't happen unless your body is almost depleted of stored glycogen. It will NOT happen if you had a few beers last night.

 

Protein is great for muscle-building. But the human body can only make use of just 'so much' and excretes the rest. If you are body-building you need more protein than if you are just exercising for good body condition, and the extra powder 'may' be of benefit. 'May' be... if your diet consists of McDonalds, 7-Eleven ham&cheese sandwiches, and other processed foods.  Otherwise, a healthy diet is all we need. When exercising, have a few more eggs, some fish, meat, cheese... 

Google the ingredients. It will explain it

[QuantumQuandry]

7 minutes ago, bignok said:

Google the ingredients. It will explain it

 

Protein + cocaine will give you energy.  Hint: It's not the protein.

[bignok]

1 minute ago, QuantumQuandry said:

 

Protein + cocaine will give you energy.  Hint: It's not the protein.

Read the science on the ingredients then go buy a container. Stuff is amazing for energy.

[FolkGuitar]

16 minutes ago, bignok said:

Google the ingredients. It will explain it

 

 

Thank you, yes it does! Thank you. I now understand your energy boost!

The very first ingredient, Maltrodextrin, which will be in the largest percentage is... wait for it... is sugar!

And if there isn't enough sugar, the Sucralose (sugar) ingredient will fill in the gap!

No wonder you feel an energy boost!
1. "Maltodextrin is a highly refined powder that is present in many processed foods, and it is used to replace sugar and improve the texture, shelf life, and taste of various processed food products

2 . Maltodextrin is a type of carbohydrate that provides no nutritional value and can cause an increase in blood sugar levels.

But perhaps a word of warning...

Despite being plant-based, gluten-free, and vegan, maltodextrin is linked to inflammatory bowel diseases like Crohn’s disease and ulcerative colitis, according to some research. Years of steady ingestion may lead to problems down the road.

 

Thanks for the clarification.

Edited December 3, 2023 by FolkGuitar

[bignok]

1% sugar

2.7% carbs

 

Try again or go get an eye test

[FolkGuitar]

2 minutes ago, bignok said:

I can see you are an idiot who can't read. It contains 1g per 100g of sugar.

 

 

 

... which is why it's listed first in the ingredient list...  I understand your pain.

[Dcheech]

3 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

I come to the conclusion lately it hasn't been doing anything for me except put weight on !!!!

 

Not a fan of protein powder, but find it difficult to believe you are gaining weight, no matter what milk you mix it with. You are only using it as a replacement for one meal, yes? The food you eat for the other two is where the problem lies. Remember to factor in the beer, chips, crisps, sausage rolls, buffalo wings, deep fried mars bars, etc. you have for snacks too.

[Jai Dee]

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[BigStar]

1 hour ago, FolkGuitar said:

Could you explain how protein gives you a 'massive energy burst' please?

 

I don't get any energy burst from protein powder. I use unsweetened and unflavored. I think it may over time help slow down the rate of muscle loss as I age, as research says it should. That, and exercise. I'm in good shape for my age. But I have no twin or clone to act as a control. I try to stack the odds in my favor, as I understand them, if it's not just too onerous and expensive to do so. 

[PremiumLane]

1 hour ago, bignok said:

Google the ingredients. It will explain it

 

Is that BCAAs? That stuff is garbage 

[vangrop]

4 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

I have been taking protein powder for many years as I have been lifting weights

I come to the conclusion lately it hasn't been doing anything for me except put weight on !!!!

 

Even the specialist doctor I saw in Australia told me the same ,he was a endocrinologist , why you taking these chemicals he asked 

Just eat eggs and meat he said 

 

Your weight is high because of these protein milkshakes !

 

 So do we as old men need protein powder ?

What happens if we don't get it ?

 

All the Instagram influencers going on about protein 

 

I'm just eating eggs etc 

I'm thinking this stuff is not only expensive but I'm keeping my weight high ?

Your doctor is entirely right. These stuff are simply overprised and don't add anything, it is purely marketing. Listen to the scientists and not The fake charlatans. Just eat more meat, chicken, eggs all rich in proteins.