georgegeorgia Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) What's your meaning of Nature vs Nurture? Who made you now as a person Psychology One says the way you brought up ,but ....think this way , did your job make you that way in nuture eg someone was a police officer in New York for 30years would end up with Resilience a that if he hadn't been brought up that way by parents before he went into being a cop And another Are children brought up by their parents to be anti social or is it just nature ? What about with psychological issues? Today I watched a youngish lady get angry at a elderly women for taking too long to self scan her groceries ,the young lady slammed her groceries on the scanner machine I guess out of frustration because the old woman was taking too long. I watched the young lady making huffing noises with anxiety,how did she become like that??? Is she like that because of Nature or Nurture? Nature or Nurture ,what makes you psychological, physically etc ... before you say it's the "parents" with a teenagers "future " and blame it on the parents ... Can someone even a Adult be "nurtured" into being that way ? psychological at its greatest they can't even answer Edited December 12, 2023 by georgegeorgia 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat_4_life Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) Nature .... is to nurture, you're over complicating this Edited December 12, 2023 by expat_4_life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted December 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2023 Making daft posts... Nature. Not knowing how daft the posts are... Nurture. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegeorgia Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, expat_4_life said: Nature .... is to nurture, you're over complicating this It's a very complicated psychological subject that apparently not even psychologists can answer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat_4_life Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said: It's a very complicated psychological subject that apparently not even psychologists can answer Totally agree, those psychologists are a "useless lot" aren't they Edited December 12, 2023 by expat_4_life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegeorgia Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Making daft posts... Nature. Not knowing how daft the posts are... Nurture. Unfortunately you have limited perception and that's by nature or Nurture in thinking everyone knows what the word "daft" means . So I Will test your theory out in Australia and say this word to everyone I meet today ,no one will have a clue what I'm talking about , probably thinking I'm calling things deaf ,why? , because your nuture into thinking we all know brought up by your parents and work colleagues who used this word ,and it's the same with the word "dogs <deleted>" in which I saw a fight between a Aussie guy and a pommy guy up in Soi Bukhao because the Aussie was saying the pommys guy called him a Dogs balls Edited December 12, 2023 by georgegeorgia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ColeBOzbourne Posted December 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said: Nature or Nurture? A combination of both. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegeorgia Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 It's a combination of both I think yes The fact the post about the word "daft' like the poster has been nutured in life through work ,friends etc to believe everyone knows that word which I take is common in the UK but as I said if I went to work tommrrw and said to the blokes that word no one would understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColeBOzbourne Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said: if I went to work tommrrw and said to the blokes that word no one would understand Understood. Just as if I went to work and called people "blokes". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Where is the choice for , "a combination of both" ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegeorgia Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) I remember a few years ago Soi Bukhao Pattaya speaking to a American guy in a cafe there telling me " he was rooting " for me after I said I was boxing in a senior's match I "LL be ROOTING for you ! He exclaimed loudly 😳 "You dirty old Bxxstard ! I replied 😂 Edited December 12, 2023 by georgegeorgia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said: 29 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Making daft posts... Nature. Not knowing how daft the posts are... Nurture. Unfortunately you have limited perception and that's by nature or Nurture in thinking everyone knows what the word "daft" means . So I Will test your theory out in Australia and say this word to everyone I meet today ,no one will have a clue what I'm talking about , probably thinking I'm calling things deaf ,why? , because your nuture into thinking we all know brought up by your parents and work colleagues who used this word ,and it's the same with the word "dogs <deleted>" in which I saw a fight between a Aussie guy and a pommy guy up in Soi Bukhao because the Aussie was saying the pommys guy called him a Dogs balls Thank-you for proving my point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted December 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2023 59 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said: Today I watched a youngish lady get angry at a elderly women for taking too long to self scan her groceries ,the young lady slammed her groceries on the scanner machine I guess out of frustration because the old woman was taking too long. I watched the young lady making huffing noises with anxiety,how did she become like that??? Back in the UK I couldn't manage the self serve scanner, so the security guard did it for me. Sounds like Australia is an awful place, mind you, i don't expect much from the descendants of criminals. It's in their NATURE! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegeorgia Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Back in the UK I couldn't manage the self serve scanner, so the security guard did it for me. Sounds like Australia is an awful place, mind you, i don't expect much from the descendants of criminals. It's in their NATURE! These self service scanners I believe have yet to hit Thailand? Time will come though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Back in the UK I couldn't manage the self serve scanner, so the security guard did it for me. Sounds like Australia is an awful place, mind you, i don't expect much from the descendants of criminals. It's in their NATURE! It's an awful place because so many whinging Poms seem to finish up there, and then proceed to bore us sh!tless with their pining for the Mother Country. One can't do much about their genetic inheritance. Parents can do a lot with the moral compass they give their kids. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said: These self service scanners I believe have yet to hit Thailand? Time will come though They have them in TOPS. Supermarkets in Australia are pulling back from them, too many issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said: It's a very complicated psychological subject that apparently not even psychologists can answer Maybe you should leave it like that, then. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrwest Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Ah, an age old question and reams of studies done. Only certain folks lean toward demanding an either/or, yes/no, right/wrong answer in a world of grey areas in life. So ... the answer is both. I was born in the Philly area of South Jersey where my DNA goes back before the founding of the country. Thus I grew up with the predominant English as my native language (although through nurture ... I am bi-lingual knowing both "youse guys" and "y'all" ha!). Being of WASP background was raised as a Christian (although through nature again, my education and experience has outgrown this. Had I been born in Japan, it would have been Japanese and Shinto , adding Buddhism along the way and perhaps Christianity as the culture allows for a more inclusive approach (raised American, the culture leans toward picking one, any one but just one). Saudi Arabia? Arabic and Islam ... On occasion over my 41 years of teaching, I oft pointed this out to my students also citing my nature inherited nearsightedness (thanks Mom) and cholesterol heart issues (thanks, Dad). the kind of academic discussion enjoyed along with a glass of red wine (for the heart, of course). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrwest Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 17 hours ago, Lacessit said: They have them in TOPS. Supermarkets in Australia are pulling back from them, too many issues. Readily available in the supermarkets when we stayed on Koh Samui two years ago. As in the USA, I go to the cashier for checkout in support of having a working middle call person earning a living. Curmudgeon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 20 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Making daft posts... Nature. Not knowing how daft the posts are... Nurture. And it's not even a Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brianthainess Posted December 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2023 20 hours ago, georgegeorgia said: would end up with Resilience a that if he hadn't been 20 hours ago, georgegeorgia said: probably thinking I'm calling things deaf ,why? , 20 hours ago, georgegeorgia said: if I went to work tommrrw You should Nurture your English. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 21 hours ago, expat_4_life said: Nature .... is to nurture, you're over complicating this No, nature is being born like that and nurture is molding the child, IMO. Problem is "nurture" is IMO just lovie BS, and most parents allow nature to rule. Just sounds better saying they "nurture" their children, when they actually allow the sprogs to do whatever they like. I didn't vote for either option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 20 hours ago, Gottfrid said: Maybe you should leave it like that, then. We all have an opinion just busting to escape though. Would you deny us our purpose in even being on here in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 21 hours ago, georgegeorgia said: I remember a few years ago Soi Bukhao Pattaya speaking to a American guy in a cafe there telling me " he was rooting " for me after I said I was boxing in a senior's match I "LL be ROOTING for you ! He exclaimed loudly 😳 "You dirty old Bxxstard ! I replied 😂 Americans IMO are sex mad, as they have a HUGE porn industry and a thriving pimp prostitution industry which is IMO why they equate sport with sex. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I think nurture plays a part but it's mostly nature. Some examples from my life. First, I'm gay, and I was born gay. Nurture had nothing to do with my sexual orientation. I have 5 siblings, all straight, all brought up with the same nurture I had. I knew I was gay before I even knew what gay was. Nature, not nurture. I also have what is called mixed-handedness, which is somewhat different from being left-handed or ambidextrous. In my case, I use my left or right hand depending on the task. I eat and write with my left hand--except, if I'm writing on a blackboard, I use my right hand. Play sports right-handed. When I am painting, I use a paint brush with my left hand and a paint roller with my right hand. Use tools and scissors with my right hand. It's not a conscious decision to use one hand or the other, it just happens naturally without any thought. Nature, not nurture. Recently, I was diagnosed with a very high calcium plaque score (CAC) for my heart arteries. Since 2010, my partner and I have lived together in Thailand. Neither of us smokes and we both rarely drink alcohol. Both go to the gym 2 or 3 times a week. He works at home with his job and we have eaten practically the same diet for the past 13 years, with some exceptions when we eat out--but even then we often order 3 dishes and share. Eating about the same diet for years, my CAC score very high, his very low. Nature, not nurture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColeBOzbourne Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Problem is "nurture" is IMO just lovie BS, and most parents allow nature to rule. Just sounds better saying they "nurture" their children, when they actually allow the sprogs to do whatever they like. I'm under the impression that 'nurture' goes beyond how parents raise children. It's everything they encounter in their environment that effects the way they are molded as they grow up and throughout life. The friends they have, family, where they live, experiences good and bad, etc.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrwest Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Ha! Lighten your load ... pertinent to this topic. Tonight rewatching the movie, "Trading Places" dealing directly with the question at hand. Don Ameche, Ralph Bellamy, Dan Ackroyd, Eddie Murphy. It is part of my Christmas themed movies rewatched this time of year culminating with George C. Scott as Scrooge on Christmas Eve ,... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 10 hours ago, ColeBOzbourne said: I'm under the impression that 'nurture' goes beyond how parents raise children. It's everything they encounter in their environment that effects the way they are molded as they grow up and throughout life. The friends they have, family, where they live, experiences good and bad, etc.. IMO that's just life. Nurture indicates a degree of "caring", and IMO for most on the planet nobody gives a monkey's about anyone not family. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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