quake Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 14 minutes ago, RobU said: The death penalty is in decline because politicians don't listen to 'normal' people just to the wokes who make the most noise. The point is that keeping these people alive is costly and 'normal' people have to bear the burden of their upkeep and monitoring. 'Normal' people have to bear the risk of the criminal reoffending when s/he is released on parole usually into poor districts where the wokes who advocate abolition don't live Normal people don't call for blood, only vengeful angary people do that. it has nothing to do with Woke. woke is just a massive typo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobU Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, quake said: Normal people don't call for blood, only vengeful angary people do that. it has nothing to do with Woke. woke is just a massive typo. It's not revenge it's protection from further incidents and removal of expense. Would you advocate keeping a mad dog in a cage for the rest of its life, that is a vicious and cruel punishment. Perhaps it might be released on 'parole' until it kills or savages someone else because it behaved whilst it was confined. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quake Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 8 minutes ago, RobU said: It's not revenge it's protection from further incidents and removal of expense. Do a bit of research. Its not a deterrent. In the USA, it costs more to execute someone than to keep him in jail for his life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobU Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 3 minutes ago, quake said: Do a bit of research. Its not a deterrent. In the USA, it costs more to execute someone than to keep him in jail for his life. Agree Not a deterrent to other mad dogs just a permanent removal from society including prison society where mad dogs take ascendancy This is not the USA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quake Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, RobU said: Agree Not a deterrent to other mad dogs just a permanent removal from society including prison society where mad dogs take ascendancy This is not the USA. Was that it, you done now. Bye. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobU Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 23 minutes ago, quake said: Was that it, you done now. Bye. Good response, your armoury of 'facts' and opinion is exhausted so you resort to sarcasm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, quake said: Iran has the death penalty, just for being gay, same a a few other countries. I just can't condone the death penalty. as angary i may be of what others have done. it's not a deterrent. and mistakes are made, look at resent years in the usa. Also the uk where I'm from, the last man executed in the uk was innocent. Maybe you can't condone the death penalty, but many others can and are quite happy with their consciences. I am one of them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quake Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 6 minutes ago, billd766 said: Maybe you can't condone the death penalty, but many others can and are quite happy with their consciences. I am one of them. Fair enough, each to there own. I just think it's wrong in a civilized society. By condoning the death penalty, you then need to except the crimes that are deemed worthy of it no matter what country it is. I used Iran as an example ( executing people for being gay) and not the usual one (we all know what that one is ) I just cant be part of it. Good day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, quake said: Do a bit of research. Its not a deterrent. In the USA, it costs more to execute someone than to keep him in jail for his life. Do you have any figure to back that up? These two are from the USA. https://www.criminaljusticedegreehub.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-execute-a-death-row-inmate/ https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/costs Both links quote the same thing. It is simply a matter of costs as the convicted person generally has no money, therefore the state HAS to pay all his legal bills as well as their own. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochile Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Death penalty should be instated/reinstated in every country world wide and several reasons for this. #1 violent crimes are on the rise and are more and more violent and barbaric #2 soon we will lack resources such as water food so no reason for people to have committed horrible crimes benefit from them. #3 who wants to pay taxes to keep scum alive. #4 major deterrent to possible future criminals. the west needs to find its pair of testicles it’s seems to have misplaced in the last couple decades. wake up people!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 3 hours ago, quake said: Fair enough, each to there own. I just think it's wrong in a civilized society. By condoning the death penalty, you then need to except the crimes that are deemed worthy of it no matter what country it is. I used Iran as an example ( executing people for being gay) and not the usual one (we all know what that one is ) I just cant be part of it. Good day. I can quite happily accept your point of view. But what punishment, in your view, should be given to a person who wraps another in a blanket and buries them alive to die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quake Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 10 minutes ago, billd766 said: I can quite happily accept your point of view. But what punishment, in your view, should be given to a person who wraps another in a blanket and buries them alive to die? I did state that on the first page, post one. Good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quake Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Voodoochile said: Death penalty should be instated/reinstated in every country world wide and several reasons for this. #1 violent crimes are on the rise and are more and more violent and barbaric #2 soon we will lack resources such as water food so no reason for people to have committed horrible crimes benefit from them. #3 who wants to pay taxes to keep scum alive. #4 major deterrent to possible future criminals. the west needs to find its pair of testicles it’s seems to have misplaced in the last couple decades. wake up people!!!! Your late for your game of marbles on the Sukhumvit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochile Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 40 minutes ago, quake said: Your late for your game of marbles on the Sukhumvit. 🤫🤫Hush hush now 🐈 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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