20 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

I do not see any criticism of Israel. Hamas, Hamas, Hamas.

 

1) Yes, they started this conflict

2) Hamas has no measures to protect civilians...unlike Israel and their Iron dome, air force, navy and army

3) So all Palestinians need to be punished because that is what Hamas wants? I didn't know Bibi took orders from Hamas

4) This has been debunked several times, we see them evacuating live on TV

5) But surely the tunnels are the targets right.... if you wanted to protect your civilians, you wouldn't put them inside your compound - this also debunks your 2nd and 3rd points

ISRAEL could end the fighting tomorrow. It chooses not to. Bibi has also said there will be NO Palestinian state - the two state solution is dead, and Israel will control all areas from the river to the sea. These are his words within the last 24 hours.

2) Hamas has no measures to protect civilians...unlike Israel and their Iron dome, air force, navy and army

 

Rubbish, nobody argues that Hamas doesn't deliberately use civilians as human shields.

 

Hamas officials admit its strategy is to use Palestinian civilians as human shields

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/01/hamas-officials-admit-its-strategy-is-to-use-palestinian-civilians-as-human-shields/

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

2) Hamas has no measures to protect civilians...unlike Israel and their Iron dome, air force, navy and army

 

Rubbish, nobody argues that Hamas doesn't deliberately use civilians as human shields.

 

Hamas officials admit its strategy is to use Palestinian civilians as human shields

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/01/hamas-officials-admit-its-strategy-is-to-use-palestinian-civilians-as-human-shields/

 

Human shields is not an excuse to kill them. Doing so is a war crime. 3 to 1 civilians killed for every Hamas militant is not proportionate.

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

2) Hamas has no measures to protect civilians...unlike Israel and their Iron dome, air force, navy and army

 

Rubbish, nobody argues that Hamas doesn't deliberately use civilians as human shields.

 

Hamas officials admit its strategy is to use Palestinian civilians as human shields

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/01/hamas-officials-admit-its-strategy-is-to-use-palestinian-civilians-as-human-shields/

 

Actually, everyone with a brain can see this is not true.

https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/busting-the-myth-of-palestinian-human-shields-in-gaza-46645

1 minute ago, Brickleberry said:

 

Actually, everyone with a brain can see this is not true.

https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/busting-the-myth-of-palestinian-human-shields-in-gaza-46645

 

   That article was published 3 years ago, the war began three months ago 

 

3 YEARS AGO

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

Human shields is not an excuse to kill them. Doing so is a war crime. 3 to 1 civilians killed for every Hamas militant is not proportionate.

 

The amazing thing, is that when they want to take someone out in Lebanon, they use guided, strategic missiles that only killed the intended targets.

 

With Gaza, they are just wiping everyone out. That's why their hostages are being killed when coming out in the open, naked and waving a white flag while shouting in Hebrew.

 

No one can justify the murder of almost 25,000 Palestinians, almost half of which are kids. over 70% women and children. Over 100 journalists dead. Where is the humanity from the supporters of Israels assault on the population? Where is the condemnation, the sympathy?

Just now, Brickleberry said:

 

Actually, everyone with a brain can see this is not true.

https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/busting-the-myth-of-palestinian-human-shields-in-gaza-46645

A Turkish media source, you do know Turkey is pro Hamas....

 

EU condemns Hamas for using 'hospitals as human shields', urges Israeli restraint

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/eu-condemns-hamas-using-hospitals-human-shields-urges-israeli-restraint-2023-11-12/

 

NATO:

Hamas' use of human shields in Gaza

https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf

 

We can’t ignore the truth that Hamas uses human shields

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/14/hamas-human-shields-tactic/

https://archive.ph/YoJSE

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

2) Hamas has no measures to protect civilians...unlike Israel and their Iron dome, air force, navy and army

 

Rubbish, nobody argues that Hamas doesn't deliberately use civilians as human shields.

 

Hamas officials admit its strategy is to use Palestinian civilians as human shields

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/01/hamas-officials-admit-its-strategy-is-to-use-palestinian-civilians-as-human-shields/

Did you know that Israel uses human shields?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shields_in_the_Israeli–Palestinian_conflict#:~:text=A UN report stated that,militants of using human shields).

7 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Human shields is not an excuse to kill them. Doing so is a war crime. 3 to 1 civilians killed for every Hamas militant is not proportionate.

Whats that got to do with the posters denial that they do not use human shields?

1 minute ago, Brickleberry said:

 

Over 100 journalists dead. Where is the humanity from the supporters of Israels assault on the population? Where is the condemnation, the sympathy?

 

   Many of those so called journalists were Hamas members working for Al Jazeera and using their Press status to protect the Hamas leadership , you can see that two Al Jazerra "journalists" who were Hamas members go killed in an Israeli strike that killed a Hamas leader as they sat next to him in a car

1 minute ago, Brickleberry said:

Did you know that Israel uses human shields?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shields_in_the_Israeli–Palestinian_conflict#:~:text=A UN report stated that,militants of using human shields).

Wind back, again you made claims you cant back up, you claimed Hamas does not. Are you going to walk that back or not?

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

A Turkish media source, you do know Turkey is pro Hamas....

 

EU condemns Hamas for using 'hospitals as human shields', urges Israeli restraint

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/eu-condemns-hamas-using-hospitals-human-shields-urges-israeli-restraint-2023-11-12/

 

NATO:

Hamas' use of human shields in Gaza

https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf

 

We can’t ignore the truth that Hamas uses human shields

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/14/hamas-human-shields-tactic/

https://archive.ph/YoJSE

 

A hospital building is not a human shield.

 

The tunnels are deep underneath the hospital, and we know that these structures are not affected by Israels indiscriminate bombing campaign. Even if there was one terrorist in a hospital, you DO NOT blow up the whole damn thing. If the entire hospital was being used as a command and control center, you would have a point. 

 

We can't ignore the truth about Israeli human shields and hostages. How many children, women and men have been locked up in Israeli prisons without charge or trial? THOUSANDS.

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

A Turkish media source, you do know Turkey is pro Hamas....

 

EU condemns Hamas for using 'hospitals as human shields', urges Israeli restraint

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/eu-condemns-hamas-using-hospitals-human-shields-urges-israeli-restraint-2023-11-12/

 

NATO:

Hamas' use of human shields in Gaza

https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf

 

We can’t ignore the truth that Hamas uses human shields

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/14/hamas-human-shields-tactic/

https://archive.ph/YoJSE

 

"A Turkish media source, you do know Turkey is pro Hamas...."

 

ad infinitum ad nauseum.

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Wind back, again you made claims you cant back up, you claimed Hamas does not. Are you going to walk that back or not?

Why? There is a confirmed UN report acknowledging that this took place.

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Whats that got to do with the posters denial that they do not use human shields?

 

He didn't say that. You always try to imply that most Palestinian civilians killed were human shields

1 minute ago, Brickleberry said:

 

A hospital building is not a human shield.

 

The tunnels are deep underneath the hospital, and we know that these structures are not affected by Israels indiscriminate bombing campaign. Even if there was one terrorist in a hospital, you DO NOT blow up the whole damn thing. If the entire hospital was being used as a command and control center, you would have a point. 

 

We can't ignore the truth about Israeli human shields and hostages. How many children, women and men have been locked up in Israeli prisons without charge or trial? THOUSANDS.

No hospitals have been blown up, what are you talking about...............

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Many of those so called journalists were Hamas members working for Al Jazeera and using their Press status to protect the Hamas leadership , you can see that two Al Jazerra "journalists" who were Hamas members go killed in an Israeli strike that killed a Hamas leader as they sat next to him in a car

 

Again, all you do is justify the murder of thousands. Almost 25,000. Enough, I will not continue this discussion with someone who refuses to acknowledge the death of innocents. Those two journalists were not terrorists.

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

No hospitals have been blown up, what are you talking about...............

 

Seriously? Your going to say that with a straight face?

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

No hospitals have been blown up, what are you talking about...............

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/14/gaza-unlawful-israeli-hospital-strikes-worsen-health-crisis

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

"A Turkish media source, you do know Turkey is pro Hamas...."

 

ad infinitum ad nauseum.

Why clip my post out of context? It also happens to be a fact

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

He didn't say that. You always try to imply that most Palestinian civilians killed were human shields

His words not mine:

 

"Your human shields claim has been debunked several times "

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

No hospitals have been blown up, what are you talking about...............

 

OMG!

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/1/18/palestinian-red-crescent-reveals-destruction-at-gaza-city-hospital

4 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

Again, all you do is justify the murder of thousands. Almost 25,000. Enough, I will not continue this discussion with someone who refuses to acknowledge the death of innocents. Those two journalists were not terrorists.

 

   They were terrorists and just using Press jackets to try and protect their leader .

They were not real journalists 

2 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/14/gaza-unlawful-israeli-hospital-strikes-worsen-health-crisis

Your claim was they blew up hosptials, that is false, they do not, have they fired at hospitals, sure, especially when teir full of terrorists:

 

Gaza hospital chief admits to being Hamas commander, using clinic as military base

The head of a Gaza hospital has admitted to being a senior Hamas commander — and detailed how the terror group transformed the medical site into an operational hub that once housed a kidnapped Israeli soldier.

Ahmad Kahlot, director of Kamal Adwan Hospital in Jabaliya, made his taped confession to the Israeli security service Shin Bet after his arrest during last week’s raid on the facility in northern Gaza.

https://nypost.com/2023/12/19/news/gaza-hospital-chief-admits-to-being-hamas-commander/

How Gaza’s hospitals became battlegrounds

 

By Katie Polglase, Gianluca Mezzofiore, Eliza Mackintosh, Livvy Doherty, Henrik Pettersson, Byron Manley and Lou Robinson, CNN

Published January 12, 2024

 

Relentless bombardment, power outages and shortages have pushed nearly every hospital in the beleaguered northern Gaza Strip out of service, with evidence of repeated attacks on and in the vicinity of medical facilities despite the presence of doctors, patients and civilians inside, a CNN analysis has found.

 

At least 20 out of 22 hospitals identified by CNN in northern Gaza were damaged or destroyed in the first two months of Israel's war against Hamas, from October 7 to December 7, according to a review of 45 satellite images and around 400 videos from the ground, as well as interviews with doctors, eyewitnesses and humanitarian organizations. Fourteen were directly hit, based on the evidence collected and verified by CNN and analyzed by experts.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2024/01/middleeast/gaza-hospitals-destruction-investigation-intl-cmd/

I've worn myself out.

 

If you can't see that there has been enough death and destruction, that Israel has destroyed the lives of the Palestinian people for a generation, that over 12,000 children have been killed, entire families and generations wiped out, then there is no hope for you.

 

What Hamas did on the 7th is horrid, but so is Israel's response. It is time to end it. Bibi doesn't care about the hostages, he never did. His true colors were revealed today to those who were blindly supporting him.

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

OMG!

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/1/18/palestinian-red-crescent-reveals-destruction-at-gaza-city-hospital

You knw as well as I, that he was referring to blowing up hospitals on purpose, the aftermath of urban fighting as seen there in that hospitals destruction is a far cry from deliberately blowing up a hospitals, its not happened.

9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Your claim was they blew up hosptials, that is false, they do not, have they fired at hospitals, sure, especially when teir full of terrorists:

 

Gaza hospital chief admits to being Hamas commander, using clinic as military base

The head of a Gaza hospital has admitted to being a senior Hamas commander — and detailed how the terror group transformed the medical site into an operational hub that once housed a kidnapped Israeli soldier.

Ahmad Kahlot, director of Kamal Adwan Hospital in Jabaliya, made his taped confession to the Israeli security service Shin Bet after his arrest during last week’s raid on the facility in northern Gaza.

https://nypost.com/2023/12/19/news/gaza-hospital-chief-admits-to-being-hamas-commander/

DELETED ...sorry I was looking at the wrong hospital...Israel have been bombing so many of them, it is hard to keep track.

 

6 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

DELETED ...sorry I was looking at the wrong hospital...Israel have been bombing so many of them, it is hard to keep track.

 

 

   Could you post the hospitals that Israel deliberately bombed , which were not being used by Hamas to fire rockets from ?

14 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You knw as well as I, that he was referring to blowing up hospitals on purpose, the aftermath of urban fighting as seen there in that hospitals destruction is a far cry from deliberately blowing up a hospitals, its not happened.

 

An air force does not bomb hospitals accidentally. Get real. Nor does artillery repeatedly hit hospitals accidentally.

16 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Your claim was they blew up hosptials, that is false, they do not, have they fired at hospitals, sure, especially when teir full of terrorists:

 

Gaza hospital chief admits to being Hamas commander, using clinic as military base

The head of a Gaza hospital has admitted to being a senior Hamas commander — and detailed how the terror group transformed the medical site into an operational hub that once housed a kidnapped Israeli soldier.

Ahmad Kahlot, director of Kamal Adwan Hospital in Jabaliya, made his taped confession to the Israeli security service Shin Bet after his arrest during last week’s raid on the facility in northern Gaza.

https://nypost.com/2023/12/19/news/gaza-hospital-chief-admits-to-being-hamas-commander/

 

Finally found the correct hospital. I originally replied with the Al Shifa hospital, and realized my error.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/23/middleeast/kamal-adwan-hospital-gaza-israel-abuse-allegations-intl-cmd/index.html

 

So they arrested the man who told the news what they were doing in the hospital, backed up by his colleagues and shows them CCTV evidence for all his allegations. He then 'admits' to being a commander for Hamas after being arrested and interrogated. Sounds a bit suss to me.