ozimoron Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 minute ago, Dolf said: Which of them have a degree in economics? Probably none. Most have degrees in pol science and history I believe. Presidents aren't economists. Some of them listen to economists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 hour ago, Dolf said: If a historian can't read the statistics on the border chaos which is the worst ever then their opinions are not worth anything. Historians usually don't study economics either. A History degree and an Economics degree are two separate things. I will give you this. Trump supporters miss no opportunity to display their ignorance!! Historians study history. History is everything that happened in the past. exactly what is it that think, historians do? Did you know that there are historians who specialize in a historical period, or a particular subject. economics of a particular period being one of many?. Do you know that there are Presidential historians who as the name implies specialise in the study of......??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Most historians are left leaning https://www.aier.org/article/are-historians-politically-biased/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) 18 minutes ago, sirineou said: I will give you this. Trump supporters miss no opportunity to display their ignorance!! Historians study history. History is everything that happened in the past. exactly what is it that think, historians do? Did you know that there are historians who specialize in a historical period, or a particular subject. economics of a particular period being one of many?. Do you know that there are Presidential historians who as the name implies specialise in the study of......??? I can't give you much credit given your answer is so poorly written. Study history? What does that mean in context? Reading newspaper articles? Reading what? What are they studying? Most historians know nothing about economics and are left leaning. Edited February 21 by Dolf 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 5 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Most have degrees in pol science and history I believe. Presidents aren't economists. Some of them listen to economists. So left leaning people. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Dolf said: What's your net worth as compared to Trump? Trump probably has nil once he settles his "fines"! 🤣 Edited February 21 by scottiejohn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleskerins Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, heybruce said: Hardly a ringing endorsement, and definitely premature. From your link: "The Wall Street Journal asked 68 business, financial and academic economists who was responsible for the strengthening of the economy, and most “suggested Mr. Trump’s election deserves at least some credit” for the upturn. " This was an opinion piece from Jan 14, 2018, less than a full year before Trump took office and before the consequences of his tax cuts, tariffs, covid mismanagement, etc. made there downsides known. Hey Bruce he doesn't read the articles. He just comments on them. if anyone cares to read the article it's a complete biased hit piece long on personal attacks and short on statistics .Here is the author Liz Peek is a former partner of major bracket Wall Street firm Wertheim & Company. For 15 years, she has been a columnist for The Fiscal Times, Fox News, the New York Sun and numerous other organizations. Edited February 21 by charleskerins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleskerins Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 minute ago, Dolf said: So left leaning people. Intelligent people. 555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 minute ago, Dolf said: So left leaning people. DUH? Please explain that comment, if possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dolf said: Economists rated Trump better than Obama: https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/368904-economists-agree-trump-not-obama-gets-credit-for-economy/ That was a wall street journal survey of professional economic forecasters. Those kind of economists work for private businesses. Not exactly an impartial bunch. And those economists predicted a long term boost to GDP for several years from the tax cuts. That never happened. GDP rose 2.2% in 2017, 2.9% in 2018 and 2.3% in 2019. And as one economist remarkked: “We have to be cautious about giving Trump too much credit for the economy’s strength,” said Bernard Baumohl of the Economic Outlook Group. “Job creation and business capital spending were on the rise prior to his presidency. The jury is still out how much more his actions moved the economy forward.” https://www.wsj.com/articles/economists-credit-trump-as-tailwind-for-u-s-growth-hiring-and-stocks-1515682893 Edited February 21 by placeholder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleskerins Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 5 minutes ago, Dolf said: I can't you much credit given your answer is so poorly written. Study history? What does that mean in context? Reading newspaper articles? Reading what? What are they studying? Most historians know nothing about economics and are left leaning. Charles a Beard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 10 minutes ago, charleskerins said: Hey Bruce he doesn't read the articles. He just comments on them. He posted an article about Trump being better and the guy wasn't even president yet. I think it is time to stop feeding this TROLL and stop responding to it. If it gets no responses it will hopefully go the same way as his previous avatar(s) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleskerins Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 14 minutes ago, Dolf said: What's your net worth as compared to Trump? Which of these left leaning historians have a degree in economics? Net worth as a human being much higher. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 5 minutes ago, charleskerins said: Intelligent people. 555 Intelligent people don't go around hating on people and writing "555" shows a lack there of. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 minute ago, charleskerins said: Net worth as a human being much higher. By what measures? Being a Biden troll? Posting nasty comments about Trump? That's a low character life. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 8 minutes ago, Dolf said: Reading newspaper articles? Reading what? What are they studying? As I said, every opportunity. I think historians study tea leaves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 7 minutes ago, placeholder said: That was a wall street journal survey of professional economic forecasters. Those kind of economists work for private businesses. Not exactly an impartial bunch. And those economists predicted a long term boost to GDP for several years from the tax cuts. That never happened. GDP rose 2.2% in 2017, 2.9% in 2018 and 2.3% in 2019. And as one economist remarkked: “We have to be cautious about giving Trump too much credit for the economy’s strength,” said Bernard Baumohl of the Economic Outlook Group. “Job creation and business capital spending were on the rise prior to his presidency. The jury is still out how much more his actions moved the economy forward.” https://www.wsj.com/articles/economists-credit-trump-as-tailwind-for-u-s-growth-hiring-and-stocks-1515682893 So he did a steady job not a bad job. Didn't start any wars, secured the borders, wages rose and the cost of living was under control. So he wasn't bad at all. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 14 minutes ago, Dolf said: I can't you much credit given your answer is so poorly written. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 minute ago, sirineou said: As I said, every opportunity. I think historians study tea leaves What did you study? Probably not English. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 19 minutes ago, sirineou said: I will give you this. Trump supporters miss no opportunity to display their ignorance!! Historians study history. History is everything that happened in the past. exactly what is it that think, historians do? Did you know that there are historians who specialize in a historical period, or a particular subject. economics of a particular period being one of many?. Do you know that there are Presidential historians who as the name implies specialise in the study of......??? How are people supposed to read these rambles? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dolf said: What did you study? Probably not English. You wrote in criticizing my writing "16 minutes ago, Dolf said: I can't you much credit given " Edited February 21 by sirineou 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 minutes ago, sirineou said: Is there an adult in the room to talk to? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 19 minutes ago, placeholder said: That was a wall street journal survey of professional economic forecasters. Those kind of economists work for private businesses. Not exactly an impartial bunch. Actually the heritage foundation found that all the best presidents were all republicans. Imagine that, what are the chances 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 26 minutes ago, sirineou said: Historians study history. History is everything that happened in the past. So they study wages, inflation and the stock market? Yes or no? Did they study illegal immigration? Yes or no? You claim they study "everything" yet can't name the things they studied. Sorry to tell you this but nobody studies everything. Being a Biden troll must be a land of make believe. Historians are studying everything. That's just hilarious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 minutes ago, Dolf said: Is there an adult in the room to talk to? Thanks for all your time fighting the Marxist Historian narrative! Imop Appreciate your efforts ! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 minutes ago, sirineou said: Actually the heritage foundation found that all the best presidents were all republicans. Imagine that, what are the chances Did they not study everything? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 minute ago, riclag said: Thanks for all your time fighting the Marxist Historian narrative! Imop Appreciate your efforts ! Not difficult to prove these people wrong. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 minute ago, riclag said: Thanks for all your time fighting the Marxist Historian narrative! Imop Appreciate your efforts ! Tag teams! "Marxist Historians". Cracks me up, LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: Tag teams! "Marxist Historians". Cracks me up, LOL. What happened to wages under Trump vs Obama? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 6 minutes ago, Dolf said: Is there an adult in the room to talk to? Dude you criticized my writing skills with a poorly constructed sentence . You said " I can't you much credit given " " If you are going to criticize someone's writing, have the intelligence to at least proofs your own copy. and then just google what it is that historian do. And please, please, don't go playing grab ass, and then go crying when someone grabs your ass. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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