BritManToo Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 1 minute ago, Dan O said: If you haven't received your pay for daily compensation that should be done at the police station with the offender and insurance agent, you and the police officer that took the notes and wrote the confession which you should have a copy of. You can call that officer to request the "negotiation" and payment date be arranged or your insurance as it must be signed off on at the police station. At the very least I would demand that the offender apologize to you in front of everyone there before agreeing to take the compensation. I know this is the process as it happened to me about a month ago. I wasn't even allowed a copy of my own statement! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 27 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: In the original Op, BritMan claimed that the driver who hit him admitted to doing so deliberately and there was a statement to such effect.... Even though BritMan can neither speak or read Thai (in previous threads he's claimed, why would he need to?, he never has any intention of mixing with Thai's).... so I'm wondering how he know what was in the Police Statement made by the Thai Driver... Yes. However Britman last update states the police dropped the case. His wife who is evidently well connected lost interest in going to court after being enthusiastic. The police officer dealing with the case died unexpectedly. Whilst I don't dispute the accident occured , some of the other aspects are suspect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkski Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 I'm surprised insurance would pay if he confessed to road rage. Just the sort to teach Thai s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan O Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 3 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I wasn't even allowed a copy of my own statement! If your insurance agent was there in the police station he got copies of everything or should have especially if the offenders insurance agreed to pay as they had to write up a report as well. Its common that these reports are made and no charges are filed after someone admits fault and an insurance company agrees to cover damages. Its considered that you were made whole again and no need to file charges or go to court. Press your insurance about it or their insurance with implication of requesting that charges be filed since the final compensation has not been given and no one has sign to close the incident. They don't want to go to court either as its more money out of their pocket. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dan O said: If your insurance agent was there in the police station he got copies of everything or should have especially if the offenders insurance agreed to pay as they had to write up a report as well. Its common that these reports are made and no charges are filed after someone admits fault and an insurance company agrees to cover damages. Its considered that you were made whole again and no need to file charges or go to court. Press your insurance about it or their insurance with implication of requesting that charges be filed since the final compensation has not been given and no one has sign to close the incident. They don't want to go to court either as its more money out of their pocket. I think in a previous post he said he only had the compulsory government insurance, which covered the hospital fees, the drivers insurance was paying for the bike repairs. Edited March 4 by roo860 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan O Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, Elkski said: I'm surprised insurance would pay if he confessed to road rage. Just the sort to teach Thai s The report that got filed probably didn't admit to what was actually done. It was probably something along the lines that the offender admitted he didn't see the victim and ran into him and didnt realize there was an accident until sometime later and thats why he left the scene. Thats typical and what was done to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan O Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, roo860 said: I think in a previous post he said he only had the compulsory government insurance, which covered the hospital fees, the drivers insurance was paying for the bike repairs. Regardless an agent would have had to come to the station and write a report for the police. The police then take that report and copy it for there file to be opened but no charges have to be assigned. When the offender was caught and made a confession he and his insurance would be at the police station and the same sequence would occur with the offender admitting fault for not seeing the victim and that the insurance would be covering the accident. Again a final negotiation meeting should be schedule at the police station for the compensation to be paid and both the victim and offender have to sign it and the insurance company is getting a copy for there files to show its closed. I just went thru this a month ago and thats the process unless Britman doesn't contact the police to close it and get his compensation. The insurance will not press closing it as they save money if the compensation isn't paid and no charges were filed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoKorat Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 9 hours ago, BritManToo said: No lawyer required as he signed a confession, it's up to the court to proceed. Imagine what would happen to one of us foreigners if we ran down a Thai because 'we were angry'? Your lawyer can push the case - even if the police have buried it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 21 minutes ago, Dan O said: Its common that these reports are made and no charges are filed after someone admits fault and an insurance company agrees to cover damages. Its considered that you were made whole again and no need to file charges or go to court. Exactly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 54 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said: If I recall the original incident as reported by the OP. He was slowing down approaching red lights when hit in the rear by a vehicle. This is a big step to make a claim of attempted murder , as opposed to just a traffic accident. To satisfy the murder claim intent to kill would need to be established. The Thai guy admitted to police ,he purposely ran into the motorcycle ,cause he was angry ! The Thai guy was interrogated by the police while The Op’s wife was there according to the Op, she said he was acting like it was no big deal . The Thai guy used the car as a weapon to gain pay back and left the scene. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riclag Posted March 4 Popular Post Share Posted March 4 Dont let this go OP. Go back to the police station and tell them politely that you waited 4 months on the advice of your wife, thinking that there was a step by step process and you want to know their intentions of pursuing punishment. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post josephbloggs Posted March 4 Popular Post Share Posted March 4 8 hours ago, flyingtlger said: I have heard of stories where Thai judges have declared in the favor of a Thai national in an accident even though the accused was in the wrong stating that the accident would have never happened if the foreigner was not in the country🙄.... No you haven't. That is nothing more than an old AN urban myth. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 27 minutes ago, riclag said: The Thai guy admitted to police ,he purposely ran into the motorcycle ,cause he was angry ! The Thai guy was interrogated by the police while The Op’s wife was there according to the Op, she said he was acting like it was no big deal . The Thai guy used the car as a weapon to gain pay back and left the scene. . This is the part that raises a red flag for me. If this statement is accurate it would invalidate the drivers insurance. An insurance company will not insure a criminal act. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post josephbloggs Posted March 4 Popular Post Share Posted March 4 4 hours ago, BritManToo said: The aim of this thread is clearly in the op. Foreigner kicks Thai woman and is arrested within a week, and probably deported, Thai man attempts to kill foreigner and nothing for 4 months. It's about inequality, Thai racism and foreigners hate for each other. To the Thai authorities we are literally less important than soi dogs. There are laws used to protect soi dogs. But we are nothing more than easy cash for their wallets. You don't get it do you. Foreigner kicks Thai woman, threatens to have her shot and says he will make sure she goes to prison. Thai lady refuses to back down, presses charges with the police and also goes to the media. Things happen. Imagine, as in your case, she just went home and kept silent but repeatedly complained to her friends that she was unfairly treated. Yet she couldn't be bothered to do anything. See the difference? 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post josephbloggs Posted March 4 Popular Post Share Posted March 4 (edited) 4 hours ago, connda said: @BritManToo Take it to the news media in your own home country. You'll probably have a more understanding audience back home if you can find a paper who will pick up the story. Find a paper or reporter who covered one of the "Thai Murders Farang" news stories and see if they'll run with it. Yeah, this would be a MASSIVE international story, just imagine! Man gets in to road rage incident, gets knocked off his bike. All medical bills are covered in full, bike repair bills covered in full, some additional compensation has also been mooted by the insurance company. No charges are pressed because he's not interested and can't be bothered, but he does like to have a good old victim whinge. Hold the front page! Edited March 4 by josephbloggs 3 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephbloggs Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: But, I'd also like to 'truthfully know' if this is what happened... There is an example in the past of some rich boy ramming a bus shelter full of people because something angered him (can't find the exact story)... That was "Mu Ham" who rammed his Merc into a crowded bus stop after an argument with the driver. Google him and you'll find many stories of it in the BP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattlesnake Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, cleopatra2 said: This is the part that raises a red flag for me. If this statement is accurate it would invalidate the drivers insurance. An insurance company will not insure a criminal act. Indeed, and why would he say something so incriminating, intead of trying to shift the blame or even claim he was provoked by the farang (whether true or not)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattlesnake Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 12 hours ago, BritManToo said: Apparently, my misses thinks things are happening but very slowly. (I've told her I won't be bringing anymore money into Thailand until this guy is in jail) It's frustrating that a foreigner speaking rudely to a Thai doctor gets instant court action. But a Thai attempting to kill a foreigner is not important! What do you mean by "won't be bringing anymore money into Thailand"? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegeorgia Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) Even if they did charge him......how do you know he will get a jail sentence? In Australia I'm sure they wouldn't, probably home detention for a few months and/or a good behaviour bond Please go the other way and forgive him ! Kill him with kindness of anger Revenge is sweet but please do it the kind way Edited March 4 by georgegeorgia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 18 hours ago, Goat said: You sure he admitted attempted murder? Or just admitted he tried to knock you off your bike? Thailand has never been colonised and part of the reason is the Thais stick together. I dont think it is a bad thing and has resulted in this country that we love so much we have decided to live here. You have to take the good with the bad, and the good outweighs the bad by a mile. if it didnt we wouldnt be here. What's with this 'we' nonsense? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skipalongcassidy Posted March 4 Popular Post Share Posted March 4 18 hours ago, bob smith said: I always love reminding thais of this fact when their false sense of superiority rears it’s ugly head, usually after they have had a few drinks. bob. No wonder you cannot get along with your neighbors... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 18 hours ago, BritManToo said: So October last year a Thai lecturer from my local university followed my m/c and ran me down in his pickup, hit and run. Apparently I bumped his car that made him angry, my injuries 5 broken ribs, broken collar bone, collapsed lung, much lost skin and damaged muscles. The police traced him from traffic light video, and he admitted the attempted murder. 4 months later ........ nothing ............ Why can Thais try to murder foreigners an nothing happens? But insult a Thai and you will be arrested and deported? Are we less important than dogs? (evidence, police video of the hit and run, signed confession by perp, his insurance agreeing to pay all my costs) So you bumped his car... what led up to you bumping his car... mind you road rage is an ugly thing but it ALWAYS involves at least 2 drivers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 9 hours ago, Sheryl said: 10 hours ago, Dan O said: Its common that these reports are made and no charges are filed after someone admits fault and an insurance company agrees to cover damages. Its considered that you were made whole again and no need to file charges or go to court. Exactly. Maybe BM2 just doesn't want to spend the next year or so dealing with police, lawyers, insurance people, and maybe the courts for possibly no further effect than current. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoExpat Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 The Russian who ran down and killed an American and a Luxembourger in Phuket in November was just sentenced to… nothing. She got a 75k baht fine. That’s it. No actual penalty for killing two people. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Find out if the guy has a beach house and go sit on his steps, maybe you can get a mob of 500 to help 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dolf Posted March 4 Popular Post Share Posted March 4 20 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said: The Russian who ran down and killed an American and a Luxembourger in Phuket in November was just sentenced to… nothing. She got a 75k baht fine. That’s it. No actual penalty for killing two people. Disgrace. Should get 10 years. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Very sorry to hear of all the injuries you have suffered and very best wishes for a full recovery. I'm afraid you have experienced the severe downside of life in Thailand. There is a far better side, but it doesn't appear anything like enough these days. ATB. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwill Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 You could file a civil lawsuit against him regardless of whether the government ever proceeds with a criminal case. At least make him pay for it. This seems to be the Thai way of settling stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephbloggs Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said: Maybe BM2 just doesn't want to spend the next year or so dealing with police, lawyers, insurance people, and maybe the courts for possibly no further effect than current. That's understandable, in which case he should stop whinging that nothing is happening. (And after 8 pages he still hasn't explained how it started) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmate Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 8 minutes ago, josephbloggs said: That's understandable, in which case he should stop whinging that nothing is happening. (And after 8 pages he still hasn't explained how it started) Dare say it happened similar to this. Better look on the bright side! Edited March 5 by Olmate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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