Two New Zealand Men Arrested in Phuket for Alleged Brutal Assault on Traffic Cop

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, paul1804 said:

There is often 2 sides to a story! Anything can happen in Thailand!

Whatever happens for what ever reason you don't do that to a Thai police,an and expect a pardon.

[soalbundy]

1 hour ago, Aussie999 said:

You weren't,  none of us were, it is being reported that they were defending themselves, perhaps we should wait and see if we get both side, hopefully with reliable witnesses, not just guess work from AN readers, many who always see the farang as being guilty... shame on you. We all know how corrupt, untrained  and short tempered many RTP are, full of self importance and can't handle anyone who "challenges" their authority.

Getting both sides, reliable witnesses (Thai?), you really think that is going to make a difference? All that is going to matter is that they assaulted a representative of the state who was shown on the ground in a degrading manner after refusing to stop driving when being told to. The RTP have lost face big time and it may be that the only witnesses will be Thai policemen. It would appear that a situation escalated due to their unreasonable behaviour of not obeying the lawful order to stop, anything they can bring up in their defense will be superfluous, rich boys banged up abroad.

[george]

UPDATE:

Parents of Kiwi Brothers Arrested in Thailand Speak as Video Shows Fight for Control of Cop's Pistol

 

The parents of two young New Zealand men arrested in Thailand have made a desperate plea for help amidst a legal nightmare unfolding for their sons. Shocking video has emerged, depicting their sons in a violent struggle with Thai police, raising grave concerns about the brothers' treatment and accusations against them.

 

The exact circumstances leading to the confrontation with police remain disputed. Initial reports indicate the men were stopped by Thai police for a traffic-related matter. A chaotic altercation followed, with allegations that the brothers physically assaulted officers.

 

Disturbing footage shows one of the brothers wrestling on the ground with an officer, appearing to attempt to seize control of the officer's firearm. Additional officers intervene, and the men were eventually subdued and placed under arrest.

 

The parents of the young men, clearly shaken and desperate for answers, have spoken publicly. They state that their sons, while spirited, have never been in trouble with the law before. The family is urgently working to secure experienced legal representation for their sons in Thailand, a country with a vastly different legal system than New Zealand.

 

The parents express deep concern about their sons' well-being in Thai custody. They are also seeking clarity on the specific charges, which could have severe consequences under Thai law.

 

The New Zealand Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (MFAT) has confirmed their awareness of the incident. Consular officials are in contact with the family and are expected to work with Thai authorities to safeguard the rights and welfare of the two New Zealand citizens.

 

MFAT's role typically includes facilitating communication between detainees and their families, locating qualified legal counsel, and monitoring conditions of detention. However, diplomatic powers in influencing the legal process of a sovereign nation are limited.

 

Legal specialists caution that the brothers are likely to face an uphill legal battle in Thailand. The allegations of assaulting police officers, and particularly the concerning struggle over a firearm, carry potentially substantial penalties.

 

Cultural and linguistic barriers, along with complexities of the Thai legal system, pose additional obstacles in mounting a successful defense. The brothers' lack of a criminal record could be a mitigating factor, but experts warn that the seriousness of the charges cannot be understated.

 

-- ASEAN NOW 2024-03-15

[malibukid]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You are more likely to only meet the pleasant ones in Thailand. The unpleasant ones have no problem getting it for free in NZ, so why would they go to Thailand? They'd likely have zero interest in temples.

because it does not require much commitment in Thailand to be a punter.

[John Drake]

3 hours ago, chessman said:

According to news in New Zealand, the two are brothers and their parents are millionaires.

 

 

 

Yes. They have a sense of entitlement, obviously. Thought they could buy their way out with a bribe, like some sort of mini-Red Bull. Might have worked had it been done in the dark, without video. But this is blasting all over Thailand in every sort of media. 

[Thingamabob]

It is stupid beyond belief to use violence against the police in any country, whatever the circumstances. This is bad for the reputation of all Westerners in Thailand. 

[Bangkok Barry]

2 hours ago, superal said:

No proof that the 2 NZ guys were guilty

 

What part of this photo don't you understand?

[NorthernRyland]

3 hours ago, george said:

“You guys white people who are supportive of this page, please raise your kids well, don't let them act like these problematic people below... raise them to be a normal one not colonizers or criminals”

 

“it's time to have visa restriction for western countries... cultural water is hard to elimimiate, likewise white men's behaviors which need to be stopped including their superior complex rooted from their media such as <deleted>ty movie; hangover and their racism...”

 

How much American media are those people watching? Holy sh*t.

[georgegeorgia]

They were training at the Muay Thai gym , it must be closed !!!

[ujayujay]

3 hours ago, bob smith said:

...if they keep deporting foreigners then at this rate there will only be you and Ralf001 left!

 

bob.

And Bob Smith

[Jimbo 12345]

100,000 bt fine is nothing to a farang,  absolutely nothing,  they need to go to prison,  then banned for life from Thailand,  they should have stopped,  simple.  2 arrogant b$#%@#ds.

[Jackbenimble]

6 hours ago, quake said:

 

I think what ever evidence is presented, they are totally F,,,,,,,,,,,

This picture below will seal there fate.

That is a Thai police officer.

 

to do that tells me they're police officers or ex-military. Either way, the PO was more than likely behaving like a kingpin and when he pulled his gun (for a traffic violation?) these lads probably knew there was a chance he would also use it. 

They're gonna be in heaps of trouble now.........better than being dead though I suppose. 

[norfolkandchance]

The 2 families left behind in New Zealand. Don't they like visiting Temples.

[John Drake]

2 hours ago, ryandb said:

 

It may end one way, but they you give a different outcome.... Again it comes down to what took place before, would you have blamed a Jew from fighting back with a Police officer in the 40s? How about a woman being sexually assaulted by a cop?

 

Cops aren't Gods, just because they wear a costume does not mean they are untouchable. 

 

These weren't Jews running from the Gestapo. It was a couple of guys running away from a traffic ticket and who escalated things to the point that they were holding a gun on a Thai policeman. There are other, smart ways, to handle a situation where you think you are being robbed (of which there is no evidence in this current incident). But a smart person would have acted like the Taiwanese actress a year ago, who paid the bribe, then went public, and got results: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/six-thai-police-officers-indicted-for-extorting-money-from-taiwanese-actress/

 

This is how a sane, high IQ person behaves. 

[alien365]

"He is trying to kill us" one of the guys said in the video to the Thai couple. You can see that they were not being aggressive or looking crazy in the video. They had zero interest in using the gun themselves. Hopefully we will see all the CCTV evidence to show what actually happened.  Either way, I bet they will never return to Thailand again.

[scorecard]

11 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

At the very least Im hoping for a public  lynching, decapitation , put thru a mincer, made into jam and given free  to all Thai nationals as a  lesson to us  all. Clicks  machine goes into overdrive

Ohh, I guess that's a comparison with the tough treatment thaksin has received. 

[Hellfire]

2 minutes ago, alien365 said:

"He is trying to kill us" one of the guys said in the video to the Thai couple. You can see that they were not being aggressive or looking crazy in the video. They had zero interest in using the gun themselves. Hopefully we will see all the CCTV evidence to show what actually happened.  Either way, I bet they will never return to Thailand again.

Or they will never leave Thailand again (also a possibility).

[paul1804]

27 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Whatever happens for what ever reason you don't do that to a Thai police,an and expect a pardon.

Yes very true, mainly due to the loss of face!

[scorecard]

3 minutes ago, alien365 said:

"He is trying to kill us" one of the guys said in the video to the Thai couple. You can see that they were not being aggressive or looking crazy in the video. They had zero interest in using the gun themselves. Hopefully we will see all the CCTV evidence to show what actually happened.  Either way, I bet they will never return to Thailand again.

Well I guess the video etc., shows they are just 2 nice guys. 

[zzzzz]

"Meanwhile, the millionaire parents of the two suspects, who are brothers, have spoken to the New Zealand press about the situation, which you can read here. In brief, they stated they were shocked by the situation, had obtained the services of a lawyer, and described the suspects as “[b]Just two kids on vacation[/b]”, stressing that both men had families and children of their own who were deeply concerned about them.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/watch-parents-of-kiwi-brothers-arrested-in-thailand-speak-as-video-shows-fight-for-control-of-cops-pistol/6CJNBFDOGFHVDB5IRKHJEICKMU/

 

 

General Surachet has informed the press that he has instructed Major General Songprod Sirisukkha, the Immigration Region 6 Commander, to cancel the visas of the two New Zealand men in question and prohibit their entry into Thailand in the future. The Chalong Police Chief, Colonel Eakkarat Plaiduang, revealed that these two individuals are currently being taken to the Phuket Provincial Court today (March 18th).

The two suspects are facing charges related to robbery, assaulting or resisting an officer on duty, and driving without a valid license. Despite allegedly attempting to bribe the police to avoid further charges, their efforts were unsuccessful.

https://thephuketexpress.com/2024/03/18/update-two-new-zealand-suspects-in-alleged-assault-of-thai-cop-to-have-visas-revoked-head-to-court/

 

The Bangkok Post reported that the Days initially sped up before stopping, allegedly shouting at the police officer who recorded their actions on his mobile phone.

At that point, it was alleged, the New Zealand tourists attempted to block the recording in an altercation that turned physical and led to a shot being fired from the officer’s automatic pistol during a scuffle for control of the weapon.

 

[Jimbo 12345]

So what if the cop asked for money?????   You know fine well what happens in Thailand,  take the chance,  or get a license,  don't speed,  wear a helmet, dont drink and drive,  these 2 wasters were speeding,  no helmets,  don't know if they have a license,  don't know if they had a beer,  it's all immaterial,  they didn't stop,  tough sh@t boys,  you going down,  I for 1 hope you get 10 years in prison.  

[Swiss1960]

8 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Good to see the Kiwi's making the headlines. 

 

Thailand wants more tourism but they really should filter the tourists, too many lowlife foreigners arriving. 

 

 

Glad to see the Swiss disappeared from the news... for now...

[renaissanc]

Giving them 5 years in a Thai jail would be suitable I think.

[sherwood]

8 hours ago, SomNaNa555 said:

At least a year in Thailand jail!! Then deport! In the USA they would have both been shot dead on the spot!

<deleted> the USA, we ain't in Kansas Dorothy do good.

Sick and tired of hearing this crap from the people from the home of the brave.

Struth 

[georgegeorgia]

4 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Well I guess the video etc., shows they are just 2 nice guys. 

Well they probably are ,but circumstances led to this behaviour,

 

 

 

[Aussie999]

3 hours ago, Jimbo 12345 said:

Should have stopped simple,  to many QUINCY'S on this site,  think you all know it all,  you know FA,  all guessing,  he did this he did that,  I know this for sure,  thai lady took the video,  if you understand thai,  she's shouting to let the cop go.  15 years each,  

And we can clearly hear one guy say the cop attack them... you obviously wish to take the cop's side, as RTP cops are so honest  and trustworthy... law abiding citizens.

Me,.. well I wasn't there.

[Dolf]

1 minute ago, Aussie999 said:

And we can clearly hear one guy say the cop attack them... you obviously wish to take the cop's side, as RTP cops are so honest  and trustworthy... law abiding citizens.

Me,.. well I wasn't there.

Had no issues with them. Very friendly.

 

 

[DjSilver]

It was self-defense. My guess, is that the foreigners were only acting in self-defense and that is how the police should act like happened. 

[Ben Zioner]

9 minutes ago, alien365 said:

Either way, I bet they will never return to Thailand again.

Any tourist, wishing to return after a first visit to Thailand needs to get his head examined. Thailand 2024 has very little in common with Thailand 2009 and nothing with Thailand 1980.

 

So many greater and welcoming places to visit. Even Malaysia has a lot more attraction.

[georgegeorgia]

3 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

And we can clearly hear one guy say the cop attack them... you obviously wish to take the cop's side, as RTP cops are so honest  and trustworthy... law abiding citizens.

Me,.. well I wasn't there.

Well where was you !

Do something!!