4 minutes ago, connda said:

How will the billionaire-class get by if the commoner-classes make a livable wage?  All of their money should be hoovered up by Larry Fink and friends and the commoner-rentees can just eat flour mixed with grass. 

Sorry you're only allowed grass on Sundays. 

Do these police officers also have the pathetic, socialized wait a year or two health plans that most have in the UK?

It is pretty easy to eat cheap food if you aren't super fussy. 

‘Living hand to mouth’: Record number of police officers turning to food banks

 

Then they learn how to feed off of (corruption) those whom they are tasked to "protect and serve," especially as the West's "leaders" facilitate the transfer of public wealth from the commoner to the uber-riche and the once First World industrial nations become little more than developing-world (with third-world enclaves) nations who deliberately destabilize their own societies.  Order out of chaos. 

1 hour ago, transam said:

But in the UK it is a toss up between food and a Smartphone, as the Smartphone is glued to their hand, it wins every time..................😝

for once i agree with you!,

people should live within their means, but also wages should increase to match living costs.

7 minutes ago, Korat Kiwi said:

Sorry you're only allowed grass on Sundays. 

That right - you can only graze the commons on Sundays.
 

The law locks up the man or woman
Who steals the goose from off the common
But leaves the greater villain loose
Who steals the common from the goose.

 

The law demands that we atone
When we take things we do not own
But leaves the lords and ladies fine
Who takes things that are yours and mine.

 

The poor and wretched don’t escape
If they conspire the law to break;
This must be so but they endure
Those who conspire to make the law.

 

The law locks up the man or woman
Who steals the goose from off the common
And geese will still a common lack
Till they go and steal it back.

One wonders how long this can keep going on before people would finally stand up against it, my guess is, a very long time. Working fulltime but then even having a hard time for basic food meals, is simply modern slavery at the most cruel way.

It was only a week ago Hunt said it was a struggle to live on a £100k so expect some accountants and judges in the foodbank queue 🤔

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No surprises at all.

 

The fact millions of people in the UK are relying on food banks for basic food needs has been discussed at length on this forum a number of times.

 

Brace for the usual ‘blame the poor for being poor’ comments.

 

 

 

Actually, the figures quoted on a previous thread about salaries and poverty show that police officers salaries are outside of those parameters.

 

Seems it could be their spending habits rather than their income.

 

 

25 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

It was only a week ago Hunt said it was a struggle to live on a £100k so expect some accountants and judges in the foodbank queue 🤔

No, he didn't say that.

1 hour ago, impulse said:

That's got to attract the best and the brightest

 

If you interact with most cops. <deleted> for brains comes to mind. 

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8 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

 

If you interact with most cops. <deleted> for brains comes to mind. 

You must spend your life talking to the police, or not.

 

You must be either a criminal or you are exaggerating.

29 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Actually, the figures quoted on a previous thread about salaries and poverty show that police officers salaries are outside of those parameters.

 

Seems it could be their spending habits rather than their income.

 

 

What like spending on accommodation and stuff like that?

 

Or perhaps you think the figures quoted in other threads are all directly relatable to the specifics of the report above.

 

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What like spending on accommodation and stuff like that?

 

Or perhaps you think the figures quoted in other threads are all directly relatable to the specifics of the report above.

 

What do new recruit cops in your country get paid, just as a comparison..........?

1 hour ago, Keep Right said:

Do these police officers also have the pathetic, socialized wait a year or two health plans that most have in the UK?

What type of health plan are you talking about? The UK has the NHS.

Bleating 'I can't afford it' seems to have become a way of life for a lot of people in the UK they then expect tax payers to fund them,if you claim 1 benefit the doors open to many more benefits,I,and many others were brought up to 'cut your cloth according to your purse' in other words live within ones means,what were once luxuries are now classed as neccessities

 

I know of 1 retired -at 50 years old-cop who is on a pension of £100,000 a year and a young man who has been with the police for 4 years,he's happy with his pay (not happy with the bureaucracy)and has just bought his first house and he isn't relying on foodbanks

26 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

No, he didn't say that.

What he did say is ‘It [£100K] is not a huge salary in our area [Godalming] if you have a mortgage to pay’.

 

It was a politically stupid thing to say but not unexpected on past performance.

4 minutes ago, transam said:

What do new recruit cops in your country get paid, just as a comparison..........?

Is that whataboutary, or you trying to insert your off topic and baseless assumptions of ‘my country’ into the discussion?

 

Refer OP for topic of discussion.

2 hours ago, transam said:

We all had to start somewhere, what ever our vocation. 🤗

But at this pay rate who would want the job? In California many of the fast food places now have to pay $20 an hour?  If one makes $24 an hour then this comes to almost $50,000 a year.  Why deal with the stress, danger and in many cases the BS of police work for just a little more money? 

32 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

No, he didn't say that.

Another one trying to dot I's 🤔

 

 

Jeremy Hunt, the UK Chancellor, has sparked controversy with his statement that earning £100,000 a year “doesn’t go as far as you might think” for people in his Surrey constituency. Despite criticism for being out of touch, Hunt defended his remarks by emphasizing that people in his area face very high average house prices. He clarified that when you consider mortgage payments, childcare costs, and taxes, even a salary that sounds substantial doesn’t stretch as far as it might seem. The median salary for a full-time worker last year was £34,963, while in Surrey, it stands at £42,000¹².

Hunt’s comments have ignited debate about the cost of living and the challenges faced by those on higher salaries. While some argue that £100,000 should be sufficient, others recognize the financial pressures caused by housing expenses and other costs. As the UK navigates economic recovery, Hunt has also hinted at further tax cuts, welfare reforms, and efforts to get more claimants back into work. He reaffirmed the commitment to the pensions “triple-lock” policy in the Conservative party manifesto².

In summary, Hunt’s assertion that £100,000 doesn’t go far has sparked discussions about income, expenses, and the realities faced by different segments of the population.

Chat

• What are the average house prices in Surrey?
• How does this compare to other regions?
• Is there a solution proposed for these challenges?

 

9 minutes ago, transam said:

What do new recruit cops in your country get paid, just as a comparison..........?

Just for context in some countries there is no national police salary.  For example in Campbell CA (this is in northern CA) the starting salary is now well over $100,000.  In the city of LA the starting salary is now over $50,000. 

1 hour ago, connda said:

Study history.  It works until it doesn't.  Liberté, égalité, fraternité.

 

The global fire is a result of the progressives radical agendas , me thinks.

 

 

8 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

But at this pay rate who would want the job? In California many of the fast food places now have to pay $20 an hour?  If one makes $24 an hour then this comes to almost $50,000 a year.  Why deal with the stress, danger and in many cases the BS of police work for just a little more money? 

Work in IT, live in Bali or Thailand.

39 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

What type of health plan are you talking about? The UK has the NHS.

Exactly, socialized poor quality, wait a year or two, perhaps five years for proper care.

& years later its £41130 and thats JUST a  constable, go up to Sergeant and its way more.

 

 

Salary. The starting salary for police constables in England, Wales and Northern Ireland is £21,402, rising to £41,130 at the top of the scale - achievable after about seven years The average salary for Police Sergeant is £50,318 per year in the United Kingdom. 

3 hours ago, transam said:

But in the UK it is a toss up between food and a Smartphone, as the Smartphone is glued to their hand, it wins every time..................😝

Ive noticed the poor  and  starving  often have a large tv as  well, usually accompanied by chronic back pain so they can claim whatever .  

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

& years later its £41130 and thats JUST a  constable, go up to Sergeant and its way more.

 

 

Salary. The starting salary for police constables in England, Wales and Northern Ireland is £21,402, rising to £41,130 at the top of the scale - achievable after about seven years The average salary for Police Sergeant is £50,318 per year in the United Kingdom. 

 

Honest question, because I don't know expenses and prices the UK that well... 

 

Given a recommended 30-35% maximum spend on housing and current interest rates, how may square feet can you afford to buy on that salary, let's say 41K?  I'd venture to say it's probably zilch at 21K.  In fact, can you even afford rent at 21K, without cutting into food and other non-discretionary expenses?

 

54 minutes ago, cmjl said:

I know of 1 retired -at 50 years old-cop who is on a pension of £100,000 a year

Maximum pension is 2/3 of final salary, so he/she must have been earning 150,000 a year. There are not many police officers earning so much - maybe Deputy Chief Constable, or Commander ranks in the Met.

3 hours ago, transam said:

Isn't it strange that near every shopping area has a selection of takeaways with home deliveries in the UK, why is that, how can the starving afford it, how do these outlets prosper.............?

 

I'm no expert in business, but I'd have a guess that these places "prosper" (as you put it) by selling to people who aren't generally struggling to pay for food.

Edited March 31, 20242 yr by JayClay

These childish comments are what makes this forum a real drag.