Will the Swiss Expat be allowed to stay in Thailand or not?
Let's see who have it right.

Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

Might need a bit more information...

He is still here?

What about I do not care, i do not know? 

My vote, I do not care, but Im happy to see him go

Which Swiss expat?

OP u should have given a third option "I have no idea".

 

Anyhow, I believe that our friend Urs deserves a slap on the wrist that's all. Unless we agree to deport all foreigners who have committed a minor DUI, run a dark orange light, etc..

 

I don't understand why so many here want to have him executed, probably a lot of guilty consciences.. I don't see any reason why people would be jealous of this poor sod.

23 minutes ago, Hummin said:

My vote, I do not care, but Im happy to see him go

Why on earth, you reckon that having to leave this sad place is an opportunity you'd love to be be given too?

2 hours ago, Confuscious said:

The Swiss Expat, stay or go ? 

Which one, there's been a couple in the headlines recently. 

 

If you are talking about ElephantMan, he's going. 

He has tried to bribe her (doctor) but she's not having it. 

 

Swissy's GONE. 

 

Go.  And as he gets on the plane they should have the Doctor there to kick him in the rear as he boards the plane.

10 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

Why on earth, you reckon that having to leave this sad place is an opportunity you'd love to be be given too?

I stand good in two countries and will never leave my home country, but while Im a guest here, I live like everyone should do, be polite and respect law and order. For some is that to much?

22 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

Anyhow, I believe that our friend Urs deserves a slap on the wrist that's all. Unless we agree to deport all foreigners who have committed a minor DUI, run a dark orange light, etc..

He kicked a woman in the back who was simply resting on a step that turns out was on public property and you think a slap on the wrist is enough?

 

Do you also believe that was the first time the coward ever struck a woman?

 

 

Maybe where you come from men hitting on women is acceptable.

 

Ask yourself, if anyone ever makes an accusation against you like this one but without video evidence, just eyewitnesses, would you expect to get thrown out of the country and banned for life?

 

Lets just assume that in this case you didn't do it, but someone wanted rid of you and their friends are backing them up.

 

It's getting very easy to have any foreigner removed from the country these days. That is dangerous, some of us have lived here for decades.

 

23 minutes ago, ukrules said:

Ask yourself, if anyone ever makes an accusation against you like this one but without video evidence, just eyewitnesses, would you expect to get thrown out of the country and banned for life?

 

Lets just assume that in this case you didn't do it, but someone wanted rid of you and their friends are backing them up.

 

It's getting very easy to have any foreigner removed from the country these days. That is dangerous, some of us have lived here for decades.

 

 

Can you give an example of a recent case that only relied on eyewitness reports?

 

Elephant man kicking Doctor

Swiss man going Muay Thai on Thai Lady in supermarket

Kiwi moron brothers assaulting cop

Expats operating illegal daycare centers

Multiple drink driving arrests that in the past never made the news.

Russian lady kicking pregnant Thai shopkeeper (Maybe that one)

 

All of these, and quite a few more, have more than eyewitness accounts as evidence. I will agree that eyewitness accounts are very unreliable and can also be purchased for a price.

 

5 minutes ago, Smokin Joe said:

 

Can you give an example of a recent case that only relied on eyewitness reports?

 

Elephant man kicking Doctor

Swiss man going Muay Thai on Thai Lady in supermarket

Kiwi moron brothers assaulting cop

Expats operating illegal daycare centers

Multiple drink driving arrests that in the past never made the news.

Russian lady kicking pregnant Thai shopkeeper (Maybe that one)

 

All of these, and quite a few more, have more than eyewitness accounts as evidence. I will agree that eyewitness accounts are very unreliable and can also be purchased for a price.

 

….and every single one of them deserves due process, i,e going through the court systems and tried in the correct way.

 

what they don't deserve is a trial by social media exasperated by xenophobia and heightened emotions. 

 

Kicking someone is hardly a deportable offense.

maybe a fine, maybe even some community service, but deportation is just way over the top.

 

bob.

Whatever

It is a reminder to all of us how fast things can change.

I guess most of us don't kick people, especially no women.

But I am also pretty sure most of us do sometimes some things which are not lawful. Maybe traffic violations, maybe we bribe someone (like everybody else does it), etc.

After living in Thailand for a while many of us get used to do many things like Thais do them, even if they are against the law.

In 99% of the cases that is never a problem. But with the wrong person, on the wrong day, bad things can happen.

4 minutes ago, bob smith said:

….and every single one of them deserves due process, i,e going through the court systems and tried in the correct way.

 

what they don't deserve is a trial by social media exasperated by xenophobia and heightened emotions. 

 

Kicking someone is hardly a deportable offense.

maybe a fine, maybe even some community service, but deportation is just way over the top.

 

bob.

 

As far as the Doctor kicker goes, It wasn't social media that did him in. It was all his own doing, along with his wife. If he would have immediately apologized, asked for forgiveness, and maybe offered to pay all her "medical expenses" it probably would have never made the news.

6 minutes ago, Smokin Joe said:

 

As far as the Doctor kicker goes, It wasn't social media that did him in. It was all his own doing, along with his wife. If he would have immediately apologized, asked for forgiveness, and maybe offered to pay all her "medical expenses" it probably would have never made the news.

medical expenses?

 

for what? a kick that we aren't 100% sure even happened because it hasn't yet been proven to have definitively taken place?

 

bob.

Just now, bob smith said:

medical expenses?

 

for what? a kick that we aren't 100% sure even happened because it hasn't yet bern proven to have definitely taken place?

 

bob.

 

Did you see the quotation marks? Probably pointless explaining the meaning of that to you.

 

And the man has admitted to kicking her although he gave a ridiculous explanation that it was by accident because he thought he was kicking a Chinese lady.

2 hours ago, Smokin Joe said:

 

As far as the Doctor kicker goes, It wasn't social media that did him in. It was all his own doing, along with his wife. If he would have immediately apologized, asked for forgiveness, and maybe offered to pay all her "medical expenses" it probably would have never made the news.

He did exactly that at the police station..

But his wife needed to add a complete diatribe to it and made everybody furious.

As Jesus said "Let they who are without sin, cast the first stone".

 

"Put that rock down Mother!"

3 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Go.  And as he gets on the plane they should have the Doctor there to kick him in the rear as he boards the plane.

 

So, he should be punished by the law, punished in terms of having his life ripped apart, and then the final punishment should be to have the exact same act committed against him by the aggrieved party?

 

A kind of a "if a foreigner commits an act of aggression towards a Thai, the punishment must be three times greater than the crime" thing?

 

Seems a little disproportionate.

5 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

He did exactly that at the police station..

But his wife needed to add a complete diatribe to it and made everybody furious.

 

Also, he supposedly boasted of connections and the police initially threatened to charge the Thai.  Something like that.

3 hours ago, ningnong said:

Do you also believe that was the first time the coward ever struck a woman?

 

That doesn't really matter when you're talking about law and punishment.  Otherwise anyone who did anything ever would have to be treated the same.

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It is a reminder to all of us how fast things can change.

I guess most of us don't kick people, especially no women.

 

Unfortunately, you can find yourself in trouble even if you don't start it and you end up having to defend yourself.  You need to be prepared to think ahead and get yourself out of any potential argument or confrontation.

2 hours ago, Smokin Joe said:

 

Did you see the quotation marks? Probably pointless explaining the meaning of that to you.

 

And the man has admitted to kicking her although he gave a ridiculous explanation that it was by accident because he thought he was kicking a Chinese lady.

 

Kicking a Chinese lady?

 

This is NOT Shanghai!

And, this is not the Swiss Concession in Shanghai, either!

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_International_Settlement

 

I guess people in Thailand, or at least very few of them, can accept extraterritoriality....these days....maybe....

 

 

it's a nice concept, maybe, but hard to find in these post-colonial days....

 

 

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5 hours ago, Hummin said:

be polite and respect law and order.

 

Is there a law that requires him to be deported?  If not...than maybe the question is...will they respect their own laws?

2 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

 

That doesn't really matter when you're talking about law and punishment.  Otherwise anyone who did anything ever would have to be treated the same.

He who has never commited any sin cast the first stone - famous quote of the Rolling Stones on 2500 AD.