Popular Post Social Media Posted April 18 Popular Post Share Posted April 18 In a significant development for the legal proceedings surrounding former US President Donald Trump, a full jury has been sworn in for his historic criminal trial in New York City. Justice Juan Merchan confirmed the completion of the 12-person panel after the final member was selected, marking a pivotal moment in the high-profile case. Despite initial expectations of a prolonged jury selection process, the proceedings moved swiftly once Trump's legal team exhausted their challenges, paving the way for potential opening arguments as early as Monday. The trial, unprecedented in American history, revolves around a hush-money payment made to adult film actress Stormy Daniels before the 2016 presidential election, aimed at concealing an alleged extramarital affair with Trump. As Trump departed the court, he criticized the charges against him as "political" and decried the proceedings as unfair, garnering attention from media outlets covering the trial. However, the day's proceedings faced setbacks with the dismissal of two jurors previously seated on the panel. One juror expressed concerns about impartiality after external influences compromised her ability to serve effectively, while another was excused over suspicions of concealing a criminal history. These developments underscored the complexities of the jury selection process and the challenges inherent in ensuring a fair trial. Legal experts weighed in on the unusual circumstances surrounding the trial, highlighting the unprecedented scrutiny faced by those involved and the need for stringent measures to safeguard jurors' identities. The dynamics of the case have raised questions about the public pressure exerted on participants and the potential implications for impartiality. Throughout the day, efforts to identify impartial jurors continued, with a new group of potential candidates entering the courtroom. Despite the challenges, seven jurors were ultimately sworn in, with an additional juror appointed as an alternate. The search for additional standby jurors will continue, underscoring the meticulous nature of the selection process. The proceedings also saw Trump's legal team scrutinizing prospective jurors for any biases or preconceptions, with some individuals expressing negative opinions about the former president. Concerns were raised about a juror's past social media posts criticizing Trump, prompting her dismissal from the panel. Another juror was excused due to a personal connection to one of Trump's lawyers, highlighting the complexities of ensuring an impartial jury. As the trial moves forward, the completion of jury selection marks a critical milestone in the legal proceedings against Trump. With opening arguments on the horizon, the focus now shifts to the courtroom, where the fate of the former president will be decided by a jury of his peers. 2024-04-19 Source 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted April 18 Popular Post Share Posted April 18 Good looks like it might actually get rolling this coming Monday great!👍 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TorquayFan Posted April 19 Popular Post Share Posted April 19 Yes it looks good but Friday morning some of the 12 Jurors might fall away as happened yesterday - but they'd soon be replaced one hopes. It's progressing much faster than expected. The quota for 6 alternates has to be completed too. 'Swearing in' and a Trial commencement Monday would be good. Trump's disgusting behaviour out of Court should be rewarded with a night or two in jail. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TorquayFan Posted April 19 Popular Post Share Posted April 19 This 'criminal case' targets "34 criminal charges of falsifying business records in the first degree" (WikiP). A case of massive importance - in the weeks after the Hollywood scandals, Trump paid and concealed, illegal hush monies, to influence voters prior to the 2016 election. One of 4 damning indictments across the USA, with Florida, Georgia and Washington DC re. the Jan 6th debacle. I hear that there's a possibility that the Florida 'documents' case could actually proceed even before this one is completed. Difficult days for Donald. Not helped by by the TMTG share price - which actually recovered a little yesterday to $33.18 but TMTG is mired in legal disputes from other Founding shareholders. Truth Social network owned by TMTG had sales of $4 million last year with losses, unbelievably, of $58 million - I mean, how exactly does a Company do that !!! Apparently, (we shall have to see), razor sharp 'class action' Lawyers in NY are looking at putting together a 'class action' against Trump for many of his statements about the financials of TMTG. That could cost Trump a lot - there is nothing in Truth Social to justify these TMTG valuations, except, the inexplicable faith that some have in Trump, despite all the evidence to the contrary. You have to feel as sorry for him as he seems to feel for himself, but let's hope that justice will be done in the end. Hard times for Donald. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigStar Posted April 19 Popular Post Share Posted April 19 Trump Legal Team Skeptical About Impartiality Of Juror Number Six 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2024/04/18/trump-speaks-ny-hush-money-trial-jury-seated-daniel-dale-digvid-lead.cnn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigStar Posted April 19 Popular Post Share Posted April 19 5 hours ago, TorquayFan said: A case of massive importance - in the weeks after the Hollywood scandals, Trump paid and concealed, illegal hush monies, to influence voters prior to the 2016 election. Imagined massive importance in the minds of the loony left. Political attempt to apply state law to a federal matter, which the Feds already declined to prosecute. Will be overturned. 5 hours ago, TorquayFan said: One of 4 damning indictments across the USA, with Florida, Georgia and Washington DC re. the Jan 6th debacle. I hear that there's a possibility that the Florida 'documents' case could actually proceed even before this one is completed. Indictments aren't damning, no defense is presented, and a good prosecutor can get a ham sandwich indicted. Jan 6 already in trouble at SCOTUS. How much of "documents" can proceed, and proceed to where, is in doubt. 🙂 5 hours ago, TorquayFan said: Truth Social network owned by TMTG had sales of $4 million last year with losses, unbelievably, of $58 million - I mean, how exactly does a Company do that !!! One word: Bitcoin. New companies, particularly in media, tech, and biotech, are often vastly overvalued long before they show a profit. Trump's wealth isn't dependent on TMTG. I doubt he's worried. Entrepreneurs are used to bankruptcies and ups and downs. 5 hours ago, TorquayFan said: You have to feel as sorry for him as he seems to feel for himself, but let's hope that justice will be done in the end. Hard times for Donald. You have to admire his resilience and strength in the face of relentless persecution by the left. Man's got balls. Also the ability to make lemonade out of lemons. Had a great campaign appearance recently. I imagine donations will increase. So let's do hope that justice is done and all these Dem political cases against him will be dismissed or overturned on appeal. And hope on the other hand that justice is done to the Biden family. 🙂 1 1 2 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TorquayFan Posted April 19 Popular Post Share Posted April 19 Earlin - thanks I'd seen that 'exit' speech earlier and I have to say that Trump cuts a particularly pathetic figure again and again and it's sad to see. There's a lot of stuff around the 'Tubes'. IMO we are not seeing a great political conspiracy against Trump, but simply, the Law and Order of the USA being reasserted by the Establishment, the Law, against a monumental rascal - it's all catching up with him. And thank the Lord for that! I wonder if Judge Merchan is going to pick up on the 8 contempts that have been widely spotted - or will he stick with an April 23rd review as noted. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorquayFan Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Dream on Big Star - let's not quibble - let's see how it turns out . . . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riclag Posted April 19 Popular Post Share Posted April 19 5 hours ago, TorquayFan said: This 'criminal case' targets "34 criminal charges of falsifying business records in the first degree" (WikiP). A case of massive importance - in the weeks after the Hollywood scandals, Trump paid and concealed, illegal hush monies, to influence voters prior to the 2016 election. One of 4 damning indictments across the USA, with Florida, Georgia and Washington DC re. the Jan 6th debacle. I hear that there's a possibility that the Florida 'documents' case could actually proceed even before this one is completed. Difficult days for Donald. Not helped by by the TMTG share price - which actually recovered a little yesterday to $33.18 but TMTG is mired in legal disputes from other Founding shareholders. Truth Social network owned by TMTG had sales of $4 million last year with losses, unbelievably, of $58 million - I mean, how exactly does a Company do that !!! Apparently, (we shall have to see), razor sharp 'class action' Lawyers in NY are looking at putting together a 'class action' against Trump for many of his statements about the financials of TMTG. That could cost Trump a lot - there is nothing in Truth Social to justify these TMTG valuations, except, the inexplicable faith that some have in Trump, despite all the evidence to the contrary. You have to feel as sorry for him as he seems to feel for himself, but let's hope that justice will be done in the end. Hard times for Donald. 10 hours ago, TorquayFan said: Yes it looks good but Friday morning some of the 12 Jurors might fall away as happened yesterday - but they'd soon be replaced one hopes. It's progressing much faster than expected. The quota for 6 alternates has to be completed too. 'Swearing in' and a Trial commencement Monday would be good. Trump's disgusting behaviour out of Court should be rewarded with a night or two in jail. “Trump's disgusting behaviour out of Court should be rewarded with a night or two in jail”. Sounds like you go along with the Democrats version of Democracy! Arrest your political opponents, censor their freedom of speech ,by gag and if he does protest ( defend himself by speaking out against his accusers) jail him! Thats right out of the Marxist playbook! imop “Former AG Barr rips 'political' Trump hush money case, says 'real threat' to democracy is progressive left”. https://www.foxnews.com/media/former-ag-barr-rips-political-trump-hush-money-case-says-real-threat-democracy-progressive-left 1 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riclag Posted April 19 Popular Post Share Posted April 19 New york city justice ,perverted! “They're perverting the system of justice, and… that's where the danger lies. The corruption and subversion of our institutions by the left." https://www.foxnews.com/media/former-ag-barr-rips-political-trump-hush-money-case-says-real-threat-democracy-progressive-left 1 1 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riclag Posted April 19 Popular Post Share Posted April 19 “If you believe Donald Trump should get no special treatment from the law because he’s a former president, that he should be treated like any other American accused of a crime, ask yourself this: Would you, as an ordinary American, ever face a prosecutor who rose to power vowing to get you”? https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/philboas/2023/03/31/trump-indictment-alvin-bragg-act-political-aggression/70068894007/ This is the rub ! You see the far left has taken over the cities justice system! Dem judge ( this and LetishaJames Dem prosecutors ( this and LethisaJames) 87 % of the voters are dem! No fair trial , its Dem justice! Its perverted and never can be Accepted ( if found guilty)by real Americans who treasure the values of the republic founding. 2 3 1 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted April 19 Popular Post Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, riclag said: “If you believe Donald Trump should get no special treatment from the law because he’s a former president, that he should be treated like any other American accused of a crime, ask yourself this: Would you, as an ordinary American, ever face a prosecutor who rose to power vowing to get you”? https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/philboas/2023/03/31/trump-indictment-alvin-bragg-act-political-aggression/70068894007/ This is the rub ! You see the far left has taken over the cities justice system! Dem judge ( this and LetishaJames Dem prosecutors ( this and LethisaJames) 87 % of the voters are dem! No fair trial , its Dem justice! Its perverted and never can be Accepted ( if found guilty)by real Americans who treasure the values of the republic founding. It seems you cannot defend Trump without evoking a conspiracy theory...... 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TorquayFan Posted April 19 Popular Post Share Posted April 19 Ric - with all respect - Democracy has a meaning in it's own right. Irrespective of Political Parties, the USA has a Constitution AND Laws - under which, for offences against, Trump has been caught out by acts he made and the events he created. Trump recognises no higher Authority than himself and will as a result of his hubris, fail in his endeavours. Which WILL be for the greater benefit of the USA and the World. IMHO ! I wanted to reply to points in your posts l but could find only blind stuff. If you think this is some kind of conspiracy or plot, lets see how it goes in this NY trial, Florida, Georgia and Washington DC. And the 'Class Action' about 'Truth Social". Future happenings there will be based in FACTS and LAW. GN 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TorquayFan said: Ric - with all respect - Democracy has a meaning in it's own right. Irrespective of Political Parties, the USA has a Constitution AND Laws - under which, for offences against, Trump has been caught out by acts he made and the events he created. Trump recognises no higher Authority than himself and will as a result of his hubris, fail in his endeavours. Which WILL be for the greater benefit of the USA and the World. IMHO ! I wanted to reply to points in your posts l but could find only blind stuff. If you think this is some kind of conspiracy or plot, lets see how it goes in this NY trial, Florida, Georgia and Washington DC. And the 'Class Action' about 'Truth Social". Future happenings there will be based in FACTS and LAW. GN With all respect, perverted facts & law! McCarthy, Turley Barr , experts in law proclaimed , its all politics . People like you would rather see him Be stripped of a mouth for daring to call it like it is ! What country did you say you’re from? Edited April 19 by riclag 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 He paid stormy to keep quiet and then misreported the payment as legal fees to hide it. Meanwhile in New York, the same AG is releasing criminal illegal aliens that have been arrested for illegals drug and gun charges on their own recognizance. 1 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 19 Popular Post Share Posted April 19 12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: He paid stormy to keep quiet and then misreported the payment as legal fees to hide it. Meanwhile in New York, the same AG is releasing criminal illegal aliens that have been arrested for illegals drug and gun charges on their own recognizance. Once again you misrepresent the facts of the case. Refer the indictment handed down by the Grand Jury. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 19 Popular Post Share Posted April 19 15 minutes ago, riclag said: With all respect, perverted facts & law! McCarthy, Turley Barr , experts in law proclaimed , its all politics . People like you would rather see him Be stripped of a mouth for daring to call it like it is ! What country did you say you’re from? It’s Juries that decide, not paid pundits. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: Once again you misrepresent the facts of the case. Refer the indictment handed down by the Grand Jury. That's what I was referring too, did you not know that? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Just now, Yellowtail said: That's what I was referring too, did you not know that? You clearly were not. Because each of the 34 indictments are felonies, not misdemeanors. Its not the fraud, it’s the fraud pursuant of another crime - Felony! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Once again you misrepresent the facts of the case. Refer the indictment handed down by the Grand Jury. "Trump faces 34 felony counts of falsifying business records to hide reimbursement payments to former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen for the money paid to adult film actress Stormy Daniels." Is this not exactly how I have been representing the facts? Your nose is growing... Donald Trump-Stormy Daniels alleged relationship timeline of events (usatoday.com) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: You clearly were not. Because each of the 34 indictments are felonies, not misdemeanors. Its not the fraud, it’s the fraud pursuant of another crime - Felony! Right, the other "crime" being complain finance violations. The state says the payment should have been listed as a campaign expense. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, Yellowtail said: Right, the other "crime" being complain finance violations. The state says the payment should have been listed as a campaign expense. The other crime being election interference. Stay tuned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: The other crime being election interference. Stay tuned. How? Nothing about paying to keep people quiet here: "No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President..." Civil Rights Division | Title 52- Voting and Elections- Subtitle I and II (justice.gov 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: The other crime being election interference. Stay tuned. How? Nothing about paying to keep people quiet here either: Election Crimes — FBI 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 8 hours ago, riclag said: “If you believe Donald Trump should get no special treatment from the law because he’s a former president, that he should be treated like any other American accused of a crime, ask yourself this: Would you, as an ordinary American, ever face a prosecutor who rose to power vowing to get you”? https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/philboas/2023/03/31/trump-indictment-alvin-bragg-act-political-aggression/70068894007/ This is the rub ! You see the far left has taken over the cities justice system! Dem judge ( this and LetishaJames Dem prosecutors ( this and LethisaJames) 87 % of the voters are dem! No fair trial , its Dem justice! Its perverted and never can be Accepted ( if found guilty)by real Americans who treasure the values of the republic founding. It sounds like you are about to set yourself on fire. Seriously, Trump allegedly committed crimes, and is now on trial. Why are you so worked up over it? There is no end of people who were unjustly prosecuted, why aren't you posting about them? Do you know about the Central Park Five? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 5 hours ago, Yellowtail said: How? Nothing about paying to keep people quiet here either: Election Crimes — FBI No need to troll about this, the Trump lawyers will explain it all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 6 hours ago, Yellowtail said: How? Nothing about paying to keep people quiet here: "No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President..." Civil Rights Division | Title 52- Voting and Elections- Subtitle I and II (justice.gov Don't worry, the Prosecution will lay out the case soon. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted April 19 Popular Post Share Posted April 19 6 hours ago, Yellowtail said: Right, the other "crime" being complain finance violations. The state says the payment should have been listed as a campaign expense. You don't seem to understand the nature of the case. That failure to understand will end soon, as the trial proceeds. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) Evidence is not Evidence until it is admitted in Court. One only has to look at the Georgia case where the Raffensperger 'find me 11K votes' phone call was the impetus for the whole investigation and indictment. Recording and transcript readily available. Tossed by Judge McAfee on an indictment wording technicality. https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-throws-6-counts-trumps-georgia-election-interference/story?id=108079326 Edited April 19 by jerrymahoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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