soalbundy Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 10 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said: The only religion is money, wealth for a few. Religion with a god is a tool to work with. You indoctrinate, control, manipulate people with it. All countries have "leaders" and groups with their own personal gain(dictators). Nothing more, nothing less. Well I'll give you a thumbs up but I think you need to consider your post more deeply. Money isn't a religion although the desire for it resembles a salvation because in a way it is, it is a tool for existence. In a modern society there is no existence without money and so it becomes primary. There is no philosophy, religion, desire or experience without existence and so by convergence; money. There are many ways to get money, usually it is through work, you sell your skill or labour to someone who has large amounts of money. The gathering of large amounts of money is, in a primitive way, an exaggerated insurance of existence. Yes, Gods are man made tools but not just (but also) of control. A common religion is also a societal stabilizing and unifying factor (which a dictator will also believe in) certainly it helps the elite control and gain wealth as long as the sheep recognize the power of the shepherd otherwise all bets are off and chaos ensues. In the end on their deathbeds even the elite will see that they were only conscious awareness that needed a physical existence for phenomenal experience but until then money and power will become a means to an end and the misuse of religion will help them in their endevours as long as they are careful enough to cloak greed with ceremony, pantomime and tradition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JCauto Posted April 20 Popular Post Share Posted April 20 4 hours ago, newbee2022 said: ...and where are the hateful murdering Muslims? All what I can see are hateful murdering Jews! 😳 In that case you've got selective vision. This is why these conflicts happen, there remain fools who believe that there are only one side who are right. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCauto Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, newbee2022 said: We are now in 2024. April. Where have you been in the meantime????😳 You missed the massacre, murdering 30.000 of innocent women and children in Gaza?? 😳 So have you been observing the conflicts in Yemen between the Saudi and the Houthis? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they're both Muslim nations and peoples for the most part. Perhaps then you might peruse the violence ongoing in Burkina Faso, Niger, Mali and the Sahel? Perhaps the war in Sudan is more your flavour? Point I am making is not that Muslims are bad, nor that they are good. Similar things can be said about those of any religion. To pretend this is simply the only ongoing violence in the world is beyond absurd, so presuming you have control of your faculties, you've simply chosen to ignore things other than what Israel is doing. Why is that? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCauto Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, newbee2022 said: You're blind, blond and deaf? 😂😂😂. The figures are confirmed by Israel. You think both are telling lies? Israelis and Hamas? 😂😂😂 Oh dear When you make supposedly factual claims, then you're obligated (if you're being an honest poster) to provide some level of attribution such that we can consider whether your point was true or false. Someone who blindly states things that are challenged and then rebuts it without any facts is unlikely to gain any credibility. Not that you're much interested in credibility, I rather expect that you're just here to spread poison against whomever you dislike. But in case you're wondering why nobody will take you seriously, this is the reason. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 42 minutes ago, JCauto said: When you make supposedly factual claims, then you're obligated (if you're being an honest poster) to provide some level of attribution such that we can consider whether your point was true or false. Someone who blindly states things that are challenged and then rebuts it without any facts is unlikely to gain any credibility. Not that you're much interested in credibility, I rather expect that you're just here to spread poison against whomever you dislike. But in case you're wondering why nobody will take you seriously, this is the reason. Read all my posts. Then you'll understand or stop posting nonsense. If you can. Be aware it's free speech even you don't like it. In this case it's appropriate to scroll further 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 48 minutes ago, JCauto said: So have you been observing the conflicts in Yemen between the Saudi and the Houthis? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they're both Muslim nations and peoples for the most part. Perhaps then you might peruse the violence ongoing in Burkina Faso, Niger, Mali and the Sahel? Perhaps the war in Sudan is more your flavour? Point I am making is not that Muslims are bad, nor that they are good. Similar things can be said about those of any religion. To pretend this is simply the only ongoing violence in the world is beyond absurd, so presuming you have control of your faculties, you've simply chosen to ignore things other than what Israel is doing. Why is that? Silly, the post is about Gaza. But sure we can talk about everything else. But I'm not into gibberish. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said: Those are the total number of causalities , everyone who has died in the war . Hamas terrorists , Palestinian civilians , IDF , hostages and Israeli civilians . 30 000 odd people who have died in the war You claimed that it was 30 000 innocent woman and Children in Gaza who have died . There , I have pointed out your mistake, as I said I would . About 13 000 of that 30 000 were Hamas members You think really it makes any difference if there died 26.000 or 30.000 civilians? Pathetic. 13.000 Hamas fighters? Really? They all got a sticker on their shirt: I'm a Hamas fighter? Man, you're a nuisance with that nonsense. It's weekend. Have a drink.😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 24 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: Silly, the post is about Gaza. But sure we can talk about everything else. But I'm not into gibberish. Sorry. Don't underestimate yourself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 17 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Don't underestimate yourself. Another one who can't read. I really pity you. But everything you want to know.....try Google or AI. The latter will suit you🙏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 8 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: Another one who can't read. I really pity you. But everything you want to know.....try Google or AI. The latter will suit you🙏 Do not ever pity me, you are the one that hasn't a clue about facts, but when it comes to insults you're not really good at that either. 😂😂😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 7 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Do not ever pity me, you are the one that hasn't a clue about facts, but when it comes to insults you're not really good at that either. 😂😂😂 Oh no, it isn't an insult. If you can't read (and understand) that this thread is about Gaza....what can I do more than pity you only. It's not my fault. But look, if you're happy with yourself it would give me a very relaxed feeling. Enjoy the weekend. And be careful.....there are always those terrible Muslims around.... apparently. 😂😂😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 18 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: Oh no, it isn't an insult. If you can't read (and understand) that this thread is about Gaza....what can I do more than pity you only. It's not my fault. But look, if you're happy with yourself it would give me a very relaxed feeling. Enjoy the weekend. And be careful.....there are always those terrible Muslims around.... apparently. 😂😂😂 Gibberish! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 11 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Gibberish! 😂😂😂If you ran out of reasonable replies you have to use nonsense words. Poor little boy 😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still kicking Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: Those are the total number of causalities , everyone who has died in the war . Hamas terrorists , Palestinian civilians , IDF , hostages and Israeli civilians . 30 000 odd people who have died in the war You claimed that it was 30 000 innocent woman and Children in Gaza who have died . There , I have pointed out your mistake, as I said I would . About 13 000 of that 30 000 were Hamas members Casualties of the Israel–Hamas war - Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtrnuno41 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, soalbundy said: Well I'll give you a thumbs up but I think you need to consider your post more deeply. Money isn't a religion although the desire for it resembles a salvation because in a way it is, it is a tool for existence. In a modern society there is no existence without money and so it becomes primary. There is no philosophy, religion, desire or experience without existence and so by convergence; money. There are many ways to get money, usually it is through work, you sell your skill or labour to someone who has large amounts of money. The gathering of large amounts of money is, in a primitive way, an exaggerated insurance of existence. Yes, Gods are man made tools but not just (but also) of control. A common religion is also a societal stabilizing and unifying factor (which a dictator will also believe in) certainly it helps the elite control and gain wealth as long as the sheep recognize the power of the shepherd otherwise all bets are off and chaos ensues. In the end on their deathbeds even the elite will see that they were only conscious awareness that needed a physical existence for phenomenal experience but until then money and power will become a means to an end and the misuse of religion will help them in their endevours as long as they are careful enough to cloak greed with ceremony, pantomime and tradition. I agree with you, as long as the "shepherd" is tolerated, you can do anything as "shepherd". Most of the time it is the wolf in the pack. You must however keep on indoctrinating, manipulating the flock, as otherwise you are out. I wonder why catholic church still exists after all their crime acts. Yup if all noses are on right direction, you could have stability for the wolf. That is for thousands of years proven, so why not continue? You believe in a god? OK, but in a group? Wrong. Indonesian christians in Jakarta are cockroaches for the Indonesian moslims. How the war started in Syria? The wolf disturbed the stability, for own gain and with power due to having control over army and weapons. No matter same god religion. So money is the power religion. The way I call it. Incredible how you can murder your own people with chemical and fire bombs, demolish your own people for personal gain. Even wonder how soldiers could do so, you must be really dumb as a soldier. Sadly the "shepherd" is still alive. I wonder why not any Syrian has put some effort to it, to ...well you know. Just checked Poetin and now it seems his war also has to do with religion. OK so be it, no one really knows. But it is said. IN the meantime he is loaded with money, kills his opponents, cracks down on common and even higher placed people. So there we go, religion mixed with own gain. money religion. Once I saw a docu/interview with him and thought ok, good talk. But you can lie and so he probably did, as his actions are opposite of what he said. Israel has been kicked out their own country many times, but decided now to stay and therefor fight. It is logical. Ever since 1948, trouble again. Lots of fights way in the past, just because tribe wars, then Mohammed woke up with a new religion and then religion wars, but at the end just for money.No stability for ages, every time fight. And the one who wins, has the power and wealth. Then you have to kick down on common people with religion, otherwise they intrude you reign wealth period, as shown for instance in Syria. You can start a religion police and suppress for instance women, put them in jail for a shawl or what ever is put on wrong and more. How can a religion suppress a sex? Well they are there. Long live religions. And then I dont mention, stoning to death as punishment. O, I just did. Mmmm dint hear anything about it anymore, suppressed? All back in line again? Well we wait for AGI, maybe that could reset human race eventually or maybe first apocalypse "10 billion" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 14 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: 😂😂😂If you ran out of reasonable replies you have to use nonsense words. Poor little boy 😂😂😂 I wouldn't even go there, your information has come direct from the Hamas terrorists, you see I don't have to insult you to make you look feeble in your posting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 5 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: I wouldn't even go there, your information has come direct from the Hamas terrorists, you see I don't have to insult you to make you look feeble in your posting. Hahaha, you and your post are really a joke 🥳🥳🥳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 minute ago, newbee2022 said: Hahaha, you and your post are really a joke 🥳🥳🥳 The numbers come from Hamas health authority in Gaza. Yes they are a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG1 Blue Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 5 hours ago, newbee2022 said: You missed the massacre, murdering 30.000 of innocent women and children in Gaza?? Do you have any independently verified proof that 30,000 innocent women and children have been massacred in Gaza? Even the Hamas terrorists admit that over 10,000 of the dead were Hamas. Plus of the remaining 20,000 there might just be some adult males. Or do Israeli bombs only kill women and children? Exaggerating really weakens your argument. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG1 Blue Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, newbee2022 said: You think really it makes any difference if there died 26.000 or 30.000 civilians? Pathetic. 13.000 Hamas fighters? Really? They all got a sticker on their shirt: I'm a Hamas fighter? Man, you're a nuisance with that nonsense. It's weekend. Have a drink.😂 It sounds like you've already been on the drink 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, newbee2022 said: You think really it makes any difference if there died 26.000 or 30.000 civilians? Pathetic. 13.000 Hamas fighters? Really? They all got a sticker on their shirt: I'm a Hamas fighter? Man, you're a nuisance with that nonsense. It's weekend. Have a drink.😂 Israel knows the names and location of Hamas members , 13 000 Hamas members already been killed and there are 4 Battalions left in Rafah . Its a huge difference between saying 30 000 innocent woman and children killed in Gaza and saying 13 000 Hamas terrorists killed in Gaza along with 7000 men and 10 000 woman and children . Those are both very different sets of figures . Your claim is that Israel were targeting woman and children and only they have died , but the reality is that Israel have been targeting Hamas terrorists in Gaza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cncltd1973 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 15 hours ago, soalbundy said: Before or at the beginning of the middle ages the Arab world was THE seat of learning and progress, Christians, Muslims and Jews all lived peacefully together. Great progress was made there in physiology, astronomy, mathematics and philosophy.....unfortunately much has changed, politics and religion are great hindrances to peace and knowledge....oil hasn't helped much either. what country was this beautiful society in? meanwhile the religious faithful of the illiterate paedo warrior prophet were robbing, raping, enslaving and killing infidels in the middle east in that same era Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 16 hours ago, newbee2022 said: ...and where are the hateful murdering Muslims? All what I can see are hateful murdering Jews! 😳 Boy are you blind to reality... and quite naive at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 17 hours ago, newbee2022 said: ...and where are the hateful murdering Muslims? All what I can see are hateful murdering Jews! 😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 10 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: The numbers come from Hamas health authority in Gaza. Yes they are a joke No, they are coming from Israel and UN. Obviously those sources are unknown to you. Go on sleeping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 10 hours ago, CG1 Blue said: Do you have any independently verified proof that 30,000 innocent women and children have been massacred in Gaza? Even the Hamas terrorists admit that over 10,000 of the dead were Hamas. Plus of the remaining 20,000 there might just be some adult males. Or do Israeli bombs only kill women and children? Exaggerating really weakens your argument. Well, sure in Gaza there lived only men. Therefore Israel could not murder women and children. Sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: No, they are coming from Israel and UN. Obviously those sources are unknown to you. Go on sleeping No you are wrong again sorry. Its ok you can correct that if you wish by starting at the beginning: Hamas admits one-third of its data on Gazan deaths is ‘incomplete’ https://aseannow.com/topic/1325030-hamas-admits-one-third-of-its-data-on-gazan-deaths-is-‘incomplete’/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 10 hours ago, CG1 Blue said: It sounds like you've already been on the drink And you're on dope, in a nursing home or in a mad house?😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 9 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: Israel knows the names and location of Hamas members , 13 000 Hamas members already been killed and there are 4 Battalions left in Rafah . Its a huge difference between saying 30 000 innocent woman and children killed in Gaza and saying 13 000 Hamas terrorists killed in Gaza along with 7000 men and 10 000 woman and children . Those are both very different sets of figures . Your claim is that Israel were targeting woman and children and only they have died , but the reality is that Israel have been targeting Hamas terrorists in Gaza Fool's day is gone already. You didn't realise? Still on booze?😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Boy are you blind to reality... and quite naive at that. Kiddo, I know who's replying. Therefore I give a damn' 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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