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8 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

There are 330 million US citizens, Im sure a whole bunch know whats what. 

Way too few for the population size, have any reasonable intelligence, over there. Specially if looking how rich and developed they used to be. Let's be real here, most Americans would think that Washington is a country.

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13 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

There is plenty of dumb Americans who do. I think over half of them today won't even know why it happened.

Those who do are just copying what Trump says. Trump’s trying to build a condo tower in Moscow. Big money for him, but he has to keep Putin happy. MAGA cult members don't know this, or don't want to believe it.

 

The power of propaganda and misinformation.

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26 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Impossible to compare the Vietnam War to the invasion of Ukraine. Stunning anyone would try.

Why? it's another pointless war promoted by governments, high society elites and media companies.

 

Do you have a response which isn't propaganda talking points by said groups? I wasn't around for Vietnam (born 82) but I was told that's how it was back then too.

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2 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Jeez. Almost 60,000 Americans died in the Vietnam War. 55 so far in Ukraine. The Ukraine War was started by an invasion from Russia. Vietnam War was a political mess.

 

Blaming the Ukraine War on the media is bizarre.

They would 100% send troops if they thought they could get away with it and then you would see those casualties. Not blaming the war on them but the major media companies are essentially government propaganda at this point and they have been shilling at max capacity for that war. It's their war, has nothing to do with America.

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4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

AFAIK in Vietnam, neither side was trying to commit genocide, or forcibly relocate children.

 

OTOH, Putin definitely wants to finish what Stalin started in Ukraine in 1932. Fifty years before you were born.

 

There are so many things like this happening all over the world but US does nothing. Ukraine is a special interest of some people in the government but not to Americans. That's my only point. It's THEIR war. 

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Here's a starting point for things going wrong in the world yet, some directly affect American people yet the American media and government want you laser focused on Ukraine. Why is that? Is it really your concern or are you getting manipulated into supporting yet another foreign war for their profit?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts

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46 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Impossible to compare the Vietnam War to the invasion of Ukraine. Stunning anyone would try.

 

Why is it that the guys who say that are the same ones that compare Ukraine to WW2?

 

Domino Theory ring a bell?

 

The names change, the map coordinates change, and the excuses change.  But it's another foreign war that the US seems bent on turning into yet another tragic forever money pit.  Using tax dollars we don't have.

 

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23 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

They would 100% send troops if they thought they could get away with it and then you would see those casualties. Not blaming the war on them but the major media companies are essentially government propaganda at this point and they have been shilling at max capacity for that war. It's their war, has nothing to do with America.

OMG. You seriously believe that? Incredible.

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16 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Why is it that the guys who say that are the same ones that compare Ukraine to WW2?

 

Domino Theory ring a bell?

 

The names change, the map coordinates change, and the excuses change.  But it's another foreign war that the US seems bent on turning into yet another tragic forever money pit.  Using tax dollars we don't have.

 

Trump supporters are against the Ukraine War. Just following the lead of their cult leader. Look at the 3 nutters in Congress who are against this. MAGA cult members.

 

I've not seen anyone compare it to WW2. Maybe on Faux News?

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21 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

There are so many things like this happening all over the world but US does nothing. Ukraine is a special interest of some people in the government but not to Americans. That's my only point. It's THEIR war. 

So Germany invaded Poland and France. It was just THEIR war? At what point do you act against an aggressor? Only when he is at your doorstep?

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5 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Trump supporters are against the Ukraine War. Just following the lead of their cult leader. Look at the 3 nutters in Congress who are against this. MAGA cult members.

 

I've not seen anyone compare it to WW2. Maybe on Faux News?

No one in the USA really gives a rats anus about the Ukraine except for the neo con chattering classes and their corrupt Biden enablers.

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8 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Lowly educated rednecks are smart??? 🤣

Do you know anybody from the US other than a tourist or two? Know any rednecks? Know any Trump supporters?

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1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Those who forget the lessons of history are condemned to repeat them.

Those who throw out soundbites generally have no cogent arguments.

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