A new study highlights a concerning trend of Christian students feeling like outsiders and some converting to Islam in a bid to fit in. The study, conducted by the Criminal Research Institute of Lower Saxony, sheds light on the challenges posed by cultural integration and the influence of Islamic values among students.

 

According to the study, a staggering 67.8% of surveyed students believe that the Koran holds more significance than German laws. Additionally, nearly half of the students (45.6%) view Islamic theocracy as the ideal form of governance. These findings underscore a growing acceptance of Islamic principles among students, with many attributing their views to the influx of Muslim immigrants and the prevalence of strictly religious families from countries like Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq.

 

The study also reveals troubling attitudes towards violence and non-Muslims among some Muslim students. Shockingly, more than a third (35.3%) expressed understanding towards violence against those who insult Allah or Prophet Mohammed. Furthermore, a significant percentage (21.2%) believe that the perceived threat to Islam justifies violent retaliation from Muslims.

 

The emergence of what the study describes as "parallel societies" within schools, where Muslim students assume dominant roles, adds another layer of complexity to the situation. Male Muslim students, in particular, are described as sometimes resorting to intimidation and violence to enforce adherence to Islamic rules, especially among their female peers.

 

Politicians and experts have expressed alarm at the study's findings, emphasizing the need for robust political education and democracy-building initiatives in schools. There are calls for greater scrutiny of Islamist propaganda on social media platforms like TikTok, which is seen as playing a role in shaping the views of impressionable students. The study has prompted calls for urgent action to address the spread of Islamist ideologies in schools and to reinforce democratic values and principles.

 

In response to the study, politicians and education officials have underscored the importance of promoting democracy education and countering extremist narratives in schools. There is consensus that a proactive approach is needed to address the underlying factors driving the acceptance of radical ideologies among some students. Ultimately, there is a collective determination to uphold German values and ensure that all students feel included and respected in the school environment.

 

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These intimidation tactics appearing in the workplace too.

 

I recently saw a video of a construction worker being heckled in the break room for eating his lunch during Ramadan. 

 

If only someone had warned of the dangers. 😄

"According to the study, a staggering 67.8% of surveyed students believe that the Koran holds more significance than German laws." that would be upsetting if you cited the study correctly. The study reported "67.8% of Muslim students surveyed believe the Koran trumps German law, while nearly half advocate for Islamic Theocracy." I suppose if you  mentioned the surveyed students were all Muslims, might not be so shocking... https://twitter.com/enochscowl/status/1782942385775030746

I am skeptical of news items that refer to "studies" without providing links to the specific study.... This is a link to the "Criminal Research Institute of Lower Saxony" but I don't see any studies remotely similar to what is cited here... maybe someone is willing to dig deeper?

Lower Saxony institute mentioned in article

Edited April 27, 20242 yr by Emdog

So, what's new? People are most often forced into joining a religion out of fear.

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

These intimidation tactics appearing in the workplace too.

 

I recently saw a video of a construction worker being heckled in the break room for eating his lunch during Ramadan. 

 

If only someone had warned of the dangers. 😄

There have been many warnings before. 

However, those were stamped as "Islamophobic".

And the former President was stating, that Islam belongs to Germany.

It was unfortunately not even a joke!😵‍💫

Scary.

Biggest threat to the west is not islam, its political islam

10 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Biggest threat to the west is not islam, its political islam

Some would say there is no distinction.

german musims is even funnier than thai christians (see 'em at Bang Rak near Assumption cathedral). #ROFL

2 minutes ago, tuktuktuk said:

Some would say there is no distinction.

Very true.

 

Sam Harris described it well. He said that there are only a small percentage of Muslims who are actually hard core terrorists. But..there is a larger group that supports them actively, even if they don't actually take direct action. And an even larger group beyond that who would not support the terrorists, but approve of what they are trying to achieve. Western countries are finding this out and it isn'T going to end well. 

50 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

There have been many warnings before. 

However, those were stamped as "Islamophobic".

And the former President was stating, that Islam belongs to Germany.

It was unfortunately not even a joke!😵‍💫

 

fear mongering posts like this stupid post need to be backed up with links and proof otherwise fake news

Edited April 27, 20242 yr by Pouatchee

8 hours ago, Social Media said:

 

A new study highlights a concerning trend of Christian students feeling like outsiders and some converting to Islam in a bid to fit in. The study, conducted by the Criminal Research Institute of Lower Saxony, sheds light on the challenges posed by cultural integration and the influence of Islamic values among students.

 

According to the study, a staggering 67.8% of surveyed students believe that the Koran holds more significance than German laws. Additionally, nearly half of the students (45.6%) view Islamic theocracy as the ideal form of governance. These findings underscore a growing acceptance of Islamic principles among students, with many attributing their views to the influx of Muslim immigrants and the prevalence of strictly religious families from countries like Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq.

 

The study also reveals troubling attitudes towards violence and non-Muslims among some Muslim students. Shockingly, more than a third (35.3%) expressed understanding towards violence against those who insult Allah or Prophet Mohammed. Furthermore, a significant percentage (21.2%) believe that the perceived threat to Islam justifies violent retaliation from Muslims.

 

The emergence of what the study describes as "parallel societies" within schools, where Muslim students assume dominant roles, adds another layer of complexity to the situation. Male Muslim students, in particular, are described as sometimes resorting to intimidation and violence to enforce adherence to Islamic rules, especially among their female peers.

 

Politicians and experts have expressed alarm at the study's findings, emphasizing the need for robust political education and democracy-building initiatives in schools. There are calls for greater scrutiny of Islamist propaganda on social media platforms like TikTok, which is seen as playing a role in shaping the views of impressionable students. The study has prompted calls for urgent action to address the spread of Islamist ideologies in schools and to reinforce democratic values and principles.

 

In response to the study, politicians and education officials have underscored the importance of promoting democracy education and countering extremist narratives in schools. There is consensus that a proactive approach is needed to address the underlying factors driving the acceptance of radical ideologies among some students. Ultimately, there is a collective determination to uphold German values and ensure that all students feel included and respected in the school environment.

 

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There seems to be a trend on AN to not publish any sources for their lead articles. As commentators, many of us do do just that, so why don't you?

1 hour ago, Emdog said:

"According to the study, a staggering 67.8% of surveyed students believe that the Koran holds more significance than German laws." that would be upsetting if you cited the study correctly. The study reported "67.8% of Muslim students surveyed believe the Koran trumps German law, while nearly half advocate for Islamic Theocracy." I suppose if you  mentioned the surveyed students were all Muslims, might not be so shocking... https://twitter.com/enochscowl/status/1782942385775030746

I am skeptical of news items that refer to "studies" without providing links to the specific study.... This is a link to the "Criminal Research Institute of Lower Saxony" but I don't see any studies remotely similar to what is cited here... maybe someone is willing to dig deeper?

Lower Saxony institute mentioned in article

As I expected, it originates from the BildZeitung! 🤣

https://www.bild.de/politik/inland/staatsschuetzer-schlaegt-alarm-deutsche-kinder-konvertieren-aus-angst-zum-islam-66264176841ad84a3ea833d8?ticket=ST-A-34005-aWLqrudJ1ATAG5bZwXue-sso-signin-server

 

The Daily Mail (which is the source of the OP) added an extra level of distortion and confusion, as it tends to presents statements by an anonymous "Staatschutzer" in a way they can be confused with findings of the study. the Daily Mail also doesn't highlights that it was a survey among Muslim students.

Gosh, the Daily Mail has even less professional ethics that the Bildzeitung. 😆

Oh and It's also written in the BZ that the sample is not representative.

Edited April 27, 20242 yr by candide

13 minutes ago, bradiston said:

There seems to be a trend on AN to not publish any sources for their lead articles. As commentators, many of us do do just that, so why don't you?

See my post above.

"Schoolchildren"? No mention of age.

 

 

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

Biggest threat to the west is not islam, its political islam

The biggest threat in the west is the EU and their policies.

8 hours ago, Social Media said:

 

A new study highlights a concerning trend of Christian students feeling like outsiders and some converting to Islam in a bid to fit in. The study, conducted by the Criminal Research Institute of Lower Saxony, sheds light on the challenges posed by cultural integration and the influence of Islamic values among students.

 

According to the study, a staggering 67.8% of surveyed students believe that the Koran holds more significance than German laws. Additionally, nearly half of the students (45.6%) view Islamic theocracy as the ideal form of governance. These findings underscore a growing acceptance of Islamic principles among students, with many attributing their views to the influx of Muslim immigrants and the prevalence of strictly religious families from countries like Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq.

 

The study also reveals troubling attitudes towards violence and non-Muslims among some Muslim students. Shockingly, more than a third (35.3%) expressed understanding towards violence against those who insult Allah or Prophet Mohammed. Furthermore, a significant percentage (21.2%) believe that the perceived threat to Islam justifies violent retaliation from Muslims.

 

The emergence of what the study describes as "parallel societies" within schools, where Muslim students assume dominant roles, adds another layer of complexity to the situation. Male Muslim students, in particular, are described as sometimes resorting to intimidation and violence to enforce adherence to Islamic rules, especially among their female peers.

 

Politicians and experts have expressed alarm at the study's findings, emphasizing the need for robust political education and democracy-building initiatives in schools. There are calls for greater scrutiny of Islamist propaganda on social media platforms like TikTok, which is seen as playing a role in shaping the views of impressionable students. The study has prompted calls for urgent action to address the spread of Islamist ideologies in schools and to reinforce democratic values and principles.

 

In response to the study, politicians and education officials have underscored the importance of promoting democracy education and countering extremist narratives in schools. There is consensus that a proactive approach is needed to address the underlying factors driving the acceptance of radical ideologies among some students. Ultimately, there is a collective determination to uphold German values and ensure that all students feel included and respected in the school environment.

 

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My father along with 1000s of 1000s of post WW2 immigrants come to Australia they worked hard and literally built the country, these people are doing nothing just wanting hand outs and getting there extended family's over to multiply to spread there faith.

 

I have heard stories them saying not to have Xmas, Easter celebrations at schools, how dare they say that get rid of the lot of them send them back to there home country's 

1 hour ago, candide said:

As I expected, it originates from the BildZeitung! 🤣

https://www.bild.de/politik/inland/staatsschuetzer-schlaegt-alarm-deutsche-kinder-konvertieren-aus-angst-zum-islam-66264176841ad84a3ea833d8?ticket=ST-A-34005-aWLqrudJ1ATAG5bZwXue-sso-signin-server

 

The Daily Mail (which is the source of the OP) added an extra level of distortion and confusion, as it tends to presents statements by an anonymous "Staatschutzer" in a way they can be confused with findings of the study. the Daily Mail also doesn't highlights that it was a survey among Muslim students.

Gosh, the Daily Mail has even less professional ethics that the Bildzeitung. 😆

Oh and It's also written in the BZ that the sample is not representative.

Thanks. Very enlightening.

37 minutes ago, Darksidedude said:

 

 

My father along with 1000s of 1000s of post WW2 immigrants come to Australia they worked hard and literally built the country, these people are doing nothing just wanting hand outs and getting there extended family's over to multiply to spread there faith.

 

I have heard stories them saying not to have Xmas, Easter celebrations at schools, how dare they say that get rid of the lot of them send them back to there home country's 

I wonder what native Australians and native Americans said when white man turned up on their shores. Bloody immigrants. All they want is everything they can make money out of. Send 'em back, I say. And let them take their revolting diseases with them!

15 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Thanks. Very enlightening.

Oh, and I forgot to stress that the title of the OP (Schoolchildren are converting to Islam 'out of fear' in German schools: Study warns) is misleading.

In the BZ original article, the title is that a member of security forces sayd that, not that the study stated it.

Edited April 27, 20242 yr by candide

40 minutes ago, bradiston said:

I wonder what native Australians and native Americans said when white man turned up on their shores. Bloody immigrants. All they want is everything they can make money out of. Send 'em back, I say. And let them take their revolting diseases with them!

 

If you're looking for a perfect example of what unvetted immigration can do to a native population, you just made the case for tighter screening.

 

 

Much better than changing gender, I suppose. 

4 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

If you're looking for a perfect example of what unvetted immigration can do to a native population, you just made the case for tighter screening.

 

 

Yeah, bar all Aussies, kiwis, ssafas, Canadians from the UK. All they want is a terraced house in Balham!

Edited April 27, 20242 yr by bradiston

Not only in Germany...

"Schoolchildren are converting to Islam 'out of fear' in German schools"

I gave this article a laugh for bait-clicking to be kind.

• "Both parents must consent to the conversion of their children to Islam, before a certificate of conversion to Islam can be issued." https://koochinnam.com

"Can a child Really 'Convert' to Islam?" 

Jan. 5, 2007  https://www.ikim.gov.my

A lengthy discussion that bears full read. However, two points:

• "A child is a child, and naturally has a strong emotional bond with its mother... To separate a child from its mother is indeed a cruel act, and is unjust from the point of view of Islam, let alone to claim that one is doing so in the name of Islam."

7 hours ago, Darksidedude said:

 

 

My father along with 1000s of 1000s of post WW2 immigrants come to Australia they worked hard and literally built the country, these people are doing nothing just wanting hand outs and getting there extended family's over to multiply to spread there faith.

 

I have heard stories them saying not to have Xmas, Easter celebrations at schools, how dare they say that get rid of the lot of them send them back to there home country's 

 

Very rare that the claims you mention are proven as fact; mostly unsupported far right BS. However, the 300 plus children in the survey by Criminal Research Institute of Lower Saxony, if proven,  demonstrates the failure of the German authorities to provide integration and educational services for the children and their parents who come from very dysfunctional societies of war torn Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq and so on. In addition weak, slow and piecemeal enaction of legislation by Western governments to crack down on Social Media platforms distributing extremist propaganda of all kinds should be rectified as a matter of urgency.

Edited April 27, 20242 yr by simple1

Slovakia has passed a law banning Islam now as a religeon, this religeon is archaic and oppressive and needs banning! 

10 hours ago, WDSmart said:

So, what's new? People are most often forced into joining a religion out of fear.

According to Shlomo Sand, professor history at Tel Aviv University,  after the Roman Empire strenghtend its grip on Palestine, the local population largely converted gradually to Christianity and after being conquered by the Ottoman Empire their descendants largely converted to Islam.

The six million Palestinians did not come from a spaceship

46 minutes ago, fvw53 said:

According to Shlomo Sand, professor history at Tel Aviv University,  after the Roman Empire strenghtend its grip on Palestine, the local population largely converted gradually to Christianity and after being conquered by the Ottoman Empire their descendants largely converted to Islam.

The six million Palestinians did not come from a spaceship

 

    Many of those Palestinians  came from neighbouring Countries to the prosperous Jewish lands , much like they do today to work 

15 hours ago, Wobblybob said:

Slovakia has passed a law banning Islam now as a religeon, this religeon is archaic and oppressive and needs banning! 

Of course, It's not true.