Michael Cohen Takes Center Stage in Trump's Hush Money Trial

[Yagoda]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Did I say Trump supporters are Nazis?

lol

[nattaya09]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Did you see Morning Joe defend Mike Cohens right to steal. ?

 

Or...a related take on the Cohen theft by Moanin Joe's fellow propagandist at msdnc, Lawrence O'Donnell....

 

"....... it didn’t really sound like stealing $30,000,   It sounded a lot like Michael Cohen doing the little that could within that calculation to rebalance the bonus he thought he deserved......and it still came out as less than the bonus he thought he deserved and the bonus he had gotten the year before," 

 

You can't make this stuff up

Edited May 22 by nattaya09

[Yagoda]

Just now, nattaya09 said:

 

Or...a related take on the Cohen theft by Moanin Joe's fellow propagandist at msdnc, Lawrence O'Donnell....

 

"....... it didn’t really sound like stealing $30,000,   It sounded a lot like Michael Cohen doing the little that could within that calculation to rebalance the bonus he thought he deserved......and it still came out as less than the bonus he thought he deserved and the bonus he had gotten the year before," 

THat was a good one, shows the utter moral bankruptcy of the Trumpophobes

[Danderman123]

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Did I say Trump supporters are Nazis?

Some are now.

 

More will become Nazis if Trump wins.

Edited May 22 by Danderman123

[Danderman123]

7 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Well if Trump supporters are Nazis what should be done with them?

Education.

 

Trump loves the poorly educated.

[Danderman123]

7 hours ago, nattaya09 said:

 

Or...a related take on the Cohen theft by Moanin Joe's fellow propagandist at msdnc, Lawrence O'Donnell....

 

"....... it didn’t really sound like stealing $30,000,   It sounded a lot like Michael Cohen doing the little that could within that calculation to rebalance the bonus he thought he deserved......and it still came out as less than the bonus he thought he deserved and the bonus he had gotten the year before," 

 

You can't make this stuff up

There is no honor among thieves.

[Yagoda]

7 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Education.

 

Trump loves the poorly educated.

Unlike your lot, who look down at them and do nothing for them, except as is needed to retain power

[Yagoda]

7 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

There is no honor among thieves.

Exactly, look at the Biden family.

 

Remember the apple does not fall very far from the tree

[Yellowtail]

Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal.

 

Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal.

 

Stormy violates the contract.

 

The FEC looked at it and did not prosecute. 

 

Bragg looked at it and did not prosecute. 

 

The Biden DOJ sends one of their top guys to New York to make up a campaign finance violation. 

 

Trump is indicted

[Danderman123]

On 5/22/2024 at 9:58 PM, Yellowtail said:

Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal.

 

Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal.

 

Stormy violates the contract.

 

The FEC looked at it and did not prosecute. 

 

Bragg looked at it and did not prosecute. 

 

The Biden DOJ sends one of their top guys to New York to make up a campaign finance violation. 

 

Trump is indicted

Another troll using the technique of breaking down a crime into is constituent actions, and then claiming that those actions are legal. Of course, the illegal acts are left out of the above nonsense post.

 

Note that Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to the campaign finance violation early on.

Edited May 24 by Danderman123

[Danderman123]

The closing arguments are coming soon. I hope these will stop the trolls from claiming "there is no crime".

[jerrymahoney]

The 21 May discussions with the Judge on the Jury instructions definitely involve the "irrespective" clause in the FEC regs which would go way upstream to determine whether the 34 entries as in the indictment were actually false.

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said:

The 21 May discussions with the Judge on the Jury instructions definitely involve the "irrespective" clause in the FEC regs which would go way upstream to determine whether the 34 entries as in the indictment were actually false.

If the entries weren't false, what was the point of the meeting where the Trump Organization staff tried to figure out how to pay Michael Cohen without referencing the hush money payment?

[jerrymahoney]

34 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

If the entries weren't false, what was the point of the meeting where the Trump Organization staff tried to figure out how to pay Michael Cohen without referencing the hush money payment?

Noted earlier from a 16 May Judge's conference Counselor Bove said as to the 'irrespective condition' : 

 

... which we think is an important issue for the jury to consider with respect to whether the payments at issue could be considered expenditures and /or contributions.

 

As you say, closing arguments next week.

Edited May 24 by jerrymahoney

[Jingthing]

I'd like to see a prediction poll here 

 

Acquittal (no way!)

Hung Jury

Convictions.

[earlinclaifornia]

34 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I'd like to see a prediction poll here 

 

Acquittal (no way!)

Hung Jury

Convictions.

Conviction

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

I'd like to see a prediction poll here 

 

Acquittal (no way!)

Hung Jury

Convictions.

Conviction: 80%

Hung jury: 20%

Acquittal: 0%

[Eric Loh]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I'd like to see a prediction poll here 

 

Acquittal (no way!)

Hung Jury

Convictions.

Acquittal - slim

Hung - real chance

Conviction - fairly good 

 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/05/24/trump-trial-verdict-00159676

 

 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

Convicted 

[Jingthing]

I'm predicting hung but hope I'm wrong.

[Yellowtail]

15 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I'm predicting hung but hope I'm wrong.

They have a week to be convinced by CNN and MSNBC to "do the right thing" and the judge will keep sending them back until he gets what he wants. 

 

 

[Jingthing]

14 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

They have a week to be convinced by CNN and MSNBC to "do the right thing" and the judge will keep sending them back until he gets what he wants. 

 

 

Conspiracy theory.

Do you actually believe such garbage or is that just the cult talking?

[Yellowtail]

35 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Conspiracy theory.

Do you actually believe such garbage or is that just the cult talking?

Why do you think he sent them home for a week? 

 

Do you think if the jury comes back and says they're hung, he does not send them back? 

 

What is it you think Trump is guilty of in this case? 

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Why do you think he sent them home for a week? 

 

Do you think if the jury comes back and says they're hung, he does not send them back? 

 

What is it you think Trump is guilty of in this case? 

It's normal for a judge to ask a hung jury to try a little more.

 

If the jury reports that someone is "not deliberating", they may be replaced in some venues. This means that a juror is not paying attention to facts, they have an opinion solely based on personal feelings, not the facts of the case.

 

 

[Yellowtail]

23 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

It's normal for a judge to ask a hung jury to try a little more.

 

If the jury reports that someone is "not deliberating", they may be replaced in some venues. This means that a juror is not paying attention to facts, they have an opinion solely based on personal feelings, not the facts of the case.

 

 

Why do you think he sent them home for a week? 

 

What is it you think Trump is guilty of in this case? 

 

Do you think he was aware of any potential campaign finance violation? 

[LosLobo]

8 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Conviction: 80%

Hung jury: 20%

Acquittal: 0%

Comey is backing an 80% conviction probability.
 

 

[riclag]

On 5/23/2024 at 11:58 AM, Yellowtail said:

Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal.

 

An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal.

 

Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal.

 

Stormy violates the contract.

 

The FEC looked at it and did not prosecute. 

 

Bragg looked at it and did not prosecute. 

 

The Biden DOJ sends one of their top guys to New York to make up a campaign finance violation. 

 

Trump is indicted

You missed another telling recent development ! biden is gonna use the dem conviction in a WH

setting!

His  antic attempt at trying to malign , will be based on a far left agenda in the works for some time now,

that Americas legal system worked and that the process should be respected.

Only if that last sentence was true.

Dem judge.

Dem Prosecutors ( x doj dem and bragg).

Dem electorate 

Dem jurors pool ( 87% vote dem)

Judge’s daughter raised 90 million dollars in dem  campaign contributions.

Hes gonna push do the American people really want this! Lol

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/24/biden-trump-trial-verdict-00159981

 

[Danderman123]

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Why do you think he sent them home for a week? 

 

What is it you think Trump is guilty of in this case? 

 

Do you think he was aware of any potential campaign finance violation? 

The judge sent the jurors home because:

 

There wasn't time last week for jury instructions discussion, closing arguments, and the start of deliberations. 

 

The rest of your post is the standard Groundhog Day trolling. Please refer to the multiple posts that answer your questions.

 

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, riclag said:

You missed another telling recent development ! biden is gonna use the dem conviction in a WH

setting!

His  antic attempt at trying to malign , will be based on a far left agenda in the works for some time now,

that Americas legal system worked and that the process should be respected.

Only if that last sentence was true.

Dem judge.

Dem Prosecutors ( x doj dem and bragg).

Dem electorate 

Dem jurors pool ( 87% vote dem)

Judge’s daughter raised 90 million dollars in dem  campaign contributions.

Hes gonna push do the American people really want this! Lol

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/24/biden-trump-trial-verdict-00159981

 

Pretty stupid of Trump to do his criming in a Democratic city.

[Yellowtail]

21 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The judge sent the jurors home because:

 

There wasn't time last week for jury instructions discussion, closing arguments, and the start of deliberations. 

 

The rest of your post is the standard Groundhog Day trolling. Please refer to the multiple posts that answer your questions.

 

What is it you think Trump is guilty of in this case? 

 

Do you think he was aware of any potential campaign finance violation?