Thailand Visa Exemption (60 days) and Visa On Arrival (VOA) (15 days)

[mikebell]

Thank you all for your responses. I/he are much relieved.  I have, however thought of a further complication; he/my daughter/myself are having a holiday in Vietnam.  After a short stay in Bangkok, does leaving the country & then returning negate his 60 day Visa Waiver?

14 hours ago, treetops said:

 

That's for Visa on Arrival, he presumably wants Visa Waiver which is what most western visitors get if they haven't applied for a visa back home.

 

However your post also mentions TR60 which is the abbreviation for a 60 day Tourist Visa.  Can you clarify what you're after?

He wants to stay in Thailand for 60 days on our return from Vietnam.

[VBF]

9 hours ago, mikebell said:

Thank you all for your responses. I/he are much relieved.  I have, however thought of a further complication; he/my daughter/myself are having a holiday in Vietnam.  After a short stay in Bangkok, does leaving the country & then returning negate his 60 day Visa Waiver?

He wants to stay in Thailand for 60 days on our return from Vietnam.

No.

 

Presuming your son hasn't been in an out of Thailand on a regular basis in the last year or so and usually lives elsewhere in the world? 

He'll get a 60 day exempt when he first arrives in Thailand.

Then, after his  "short stay in Bangkok," he'll leave for VN. When he returns from VN to Thailand he'll get another 60 day exempt. Presumably his holiday in VN will be a week or more, so it's clearly not just a border hop?

I would suggest that he keeps his UK return ticket with him so he can show Thai Immigration that he is truly a tourist.

 

Note: There has been talk / rumour of reducing the 60 days exempt to 30 days. This is presently ONLY a rumour but keep your eyes open on AN in case that does happen.

 

Note 2: He will need to complete a new TDAC form within 3 days of each entry into Thailand as will you and your daughter of course.  https://tdac.immigration.go.th/arrival-card/#/home

 

I'm almost certain all the above is correct - possibly if @Maestro is reading this, he'll confirm please.

[mikebell]

16 hours ago, VBF said:

No.

 

Presuming your son hasn't been in an out of Thailand on a regular basis in the last year or so and usually lives elsewhere in the world? 

He'll get a 60 day exempt when he first arrives in Thailand.

Then, after his  "short stay in Bangkok," he'll leave for VN. When he returns from VN to Thailand he'll get another 60 day exempt. Presumably his holiday in VN will be a week or more, so it's clearly not just a border hop?

I would suggest that he keeps his UK return ticket with him so he can show Thai Immigration that he is truly a tourist.

 

Note: There has been talk / rumour of reducing the 60 days exempt to 30 days. This is presently ONLY a rumour but keep your eyes open on AN in case that does happen.

 

Note 2: He will need to complete a new TDAC form within 3 days of each entry into Thailand as will you and your daughter of course.  https://tdac.immigration.go.th/arrival-card/#/home

 

I'm almost certain all the above is correct - possibly if @Maestro is reading this, he'll confirm please.

Excellent full answer.  Thank you for your time and expertise.

[JDMCanuck]

Copied and pasted from US Embassy and Consulate in Thailand

  https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/thai-visas-americans/

"American citizens who wish to remain in Thailand for longer than 90 days during any six-month period will be required to obtain a valid Thai visa from a Thai Embassy or Consulate that is authorized to issue visas"

 

 

According to the above my vacation plans will not work as I planned on visiting Thailand for 60 days from October 20 to Dec 20 , return to N America for 2 weeks from Dec 22 to Jan 7, then back to Thailand Jan 8  to March 7 , which puts me over the limit as stated above, as I will have entered on 2 Visa Exempt (VE) 60 day entries and stayed 120 days within less than 6 months, I had even thought, depending on how the winter in Canada was I might get a 30 day extension to the 2nd 60 day VE in January and not go back until April.

 

Any input is appreciated. Can anyone confirm the above as correct please?

[BrandonJT]

9 hours ago, JDMCanuck said:

Copied and pasted from US Embassy and Consulate in Thailand

  https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/thai-visas-americans/

"American citizens who wish to remain in Thailand for longer than 90 days during any six-month period will be required to obtain a valid Thai visa from a Thai Embassy or Consulate that is authorized to issue visas"

 

 

According to the above my vacation plans will not work as I planned on visiting Thailand for 60 days from October 20 to Dec 20 , return to N America for 2 weeks from Dec 22 to Jan 7, then back to Thailand Jan 8  to March 7 , which puts me over the limit as stated above, as I will have entered on 2 Visa Exempt (VE) 60 day entries and stayed 120 days within less than 6 months, I had even thought, depending on how the winter in Canada was I might get a 30 day extension to the 2nd 60 day VE in January and not go back until April.

 

Any input is appreciated. Can anyone confirm the above as correct please?

There is no rule that says this.  The US embassy does not make rules about staying in Thailand, that's Thai immigration.  But each entry is at the discretion of the immigration officers. People tend to start having problems if they've entered as a tourist and applied for a 30-day extensioon after that.  The other general guideline seems to be 90 days in 180 days can be problematic, or 6 months within a year.