Biden Pushes for End to Israel-Hamas War with New Ceasefire Proposal

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In a significant and high-stakes speech on Friday, U.S. President Joe Biden declared that it is "time for this war to end" and presented what he described as the latest Israeli proposal for a ceasefire and hostage deal aimed at concluding the ongoing Israel-Hamas conflict. Biden's address, delivered in the State Dining Room of the White House, outlined a detailed plan submitted by Israel to Hamas through Qatar on Thursday, emphasizing the need for immediate action to bring peace and stability to the region.

 

The proposal, as detailed by Biden, aims to achieve several critical objectives: the release of all hostages held by Hamas, ensuring Israel's security, creating a future for Gaza without Hamas in power, and laying the groundwork for a political settlement that benefits both Israelis and Palestinians. "This offer would bring all the hostages home, ensure Israel’s security, create a better day after in Gaza without Hamas in power, and set the stage for a political settlement that provides a better future for Israelis and Palestinians alike," Biden stated.

 

Biden's proposal is structured in three phases, with the first six-week phase being particularly crucial. This initial phase includes a complete ceasefire, the withdrawal of Israeli forces from populated areas in Gaza, the release of female, elderly, and sick hostages by Hamas, and the release of hundreds of Palestinian security prisoners by Israel. The first phase would also see a significant influx of humanitarian aid, with 60 trucks delivering supplies to Gaza daily, alongside the provision of hundreds of thousands of temporary shelters and housing units by the international community.

 

 

Additionally, Biden revealed a new condition for the first phase: the release of the bodies of deceased hostages, marking a departure from Israel's previous stance of not accepting any bodies during this humanitarian phase. This detail highlights the complex and sensitive nature of the negotiations, as Israel and Hamas have previously struggled to agree on the specifics of hostage exchanges.

 

The U.S. President made it clear that the success of the first phase is contingent on Hamas negotiating in good faith. If the negotiations extend beyond six weeks, the ceasefire would be extended to allow for continued dialogue. "The United States, Egypt, and Qatar [will] work to ensure negotiations keep going… until all the agreements are reached and phase two is able to begin," Biden explained.

 

He also underscored that if Hamas fails to uphold its commitments, Israel would have the right to resume military operations. "If Hamas fails to uphold its commitments under the deal, Israel can resume military operations. But Egypt and Qatar have assured me they are continuing to work to ensure that Hamas doesn’t do that," Biden added, emphasizing the roles of Egypt and Qatar as mediators.

 

 

While Netanyahu's office released a statement immediately after Biden's speech, it did not directly respond to the president's remarks. Instead, it affirmed that the latest Israeli proposal fulfills Israel's war aims of returning all remaining 125 hostages and eliminating Hamas’s military and governmental capabilities. "The Israeli government is united in the desire to return our hostages as soon as possible and is working to achieve this goal," the statement read. However, it avoided specifying whether the proposal mentioned by Biden was the same one referenced by Netanyahu's office.

 

For its part, Hamas welcomed Biden’s speech and expressed its readiness to negotiate in good faith to secure a permanent ceasefire and the withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza. "The movement affirms its readiness to deal positively and constructively with any proposal based on [these components]," Hamas stated.

 

In his speech, Biden also appealed directly to Israel’s leaders and the public, urging them to support the proposal despite potential internal opposition. He acknowledged the complexities and pressures within Israel's political landscape, implicitly criticizing those within the Israeli government who might prefer to continue the conflict indefinitely. "I know there are those in Israel who will not agree with this plan and will call for the war to continue indefinitely. Some are even in the governing coalition. They’ve made it clear that they want to occupy Gaza, they want to keep fighting for years, and the hostages are not a priority to them," Biden said, clearly addressing the hardliners within Israel's government.

 

 

Biden stressed that continuing the war would not bring lasting security to Israel and would only lead to further isolation and depletion of resources. "Indefinite war in pursuit of an unidentified notion of 'total victory' will only bog down Israel in Gaza, draining military, economic, and human resources and further Israel’s isolation in the world," he asserted. "That will not bring hostages home. That will not bring an enduring defeat of Hamas. That will not bring Israel lasting security."

 

The President highlighted the broader benefits of the deal, including the potential for normalization of relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia and the advancement of Palestinian self-determination. "For Israel, it would allow for a return to calm on the Lebanon border and a normalization agreement with Saudi Arabia. For the Palestinians, it would enable them to advance toward self-determination," Biden explained.

 

In the second phase of the proposal, Hamas would release the remaining Israeli hostages, including male soldiers, and Israel would withdraw its forces entirely from Gaza while releasing additional Palestinian prisoners. "As long as Hamas lives up to its commitments, a temporary ceasefire would become… permanent," Biden stated. He acknowledged that this stage would be particularly challenging, requiring both sides to agree on a ratio for the exchange of hostages and prisoners.

 

The third phase involves a major reconstruction plan for Gaza, supported by the international community, aimed at rebuilding homes, schools, and hospitals. "Finally, in phase three, a major reconstruction plan for Gaza would commence. And any final remains of hostages who have been killed would be returned to their families," Biden said. This phase is envisioned to last three to five years and would be backed by the U.S. and the international community.

 

Biden concluded his speech by calling on pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel protesters to direct their demands for a ceasefire at Hamas, urging the group to accept the deal. "Now it’s time to raise your voices and demand that Hamas come to the table, agree to this deal, and end this war that they began," he said. He also called on Israel to accept the deal, reiterating the importance of a negotiated end to the conflict. "Let the leaders know they should take this deal. It’s time for this war to end, and for the day after to begin."

 

In a post-speech briefing, a senior U.S. official emphasized that the latest proposal closely aligns with Hamas's previous demands, suggesting that the group’s acceptance of the deal is now critical. "This is now at the stage where Hamas has said they’d be prepared to do deal X, and what is now on the table is basically that, with some very minor adjustments," the official noted.

 

Credit: Times of Israel 2024-06-01

 

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[Bkk Brian]

Full text to Biden's speech and how the new peace the proposal come into being:

 

Now, after intensive diplomacy carried out by my team and my many conversations with leaders of Israel, Qatar, and Egypt and other Middle Eastern countries, Israel has now offered — Israel has offered a comprehensive new proposal.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2024/05/31/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-middle-east-2/

[thaibeachlovers]

Who is going to guarantee that once the hostages have been released israel doesn't claim that Hamas has reneged and goes back to flattening Gaza?

Without an external force to guarantee hostilities do not recommence once israel has the hostages it's all dependent on israel to keep it's side of the agreement and I do not trust netanyahu. He has too much to lose by ending the conflict to be trusted, and there are the ultra right in his government that have apparently said they will never accept such an agreement.

 

Wherever the peacekeeping comes from it should not be Americans. Gazans know that the US supplies the hardware and bombs that have killed so many of them, so they will probably not trust any US force to be unbiased.

[Bkk Brian]

17 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Who is going to guarantee that once the hostages have been released israel doesn't claim that Hamas has reneged and goes back to flattening Gaza?

Without an external force to guarantee hostilities do not recommence once israel has the hostages it's all dependent on israel to keep it's side of the agreement and I do not trust netanyahu. He has too much to lose by ending the conflict to be trusted, and there are the ultra right in his government that have apparently said they will never accept such an agreement.

 

Wherever the peacekeeping comes from it should not be Americans. Gazans know that the US supplies the hardware and bombs that have killed so many of them, so they will probably not trust any US force to be unbiased.

You haven't even read the OP have you.................

[Bkk Brian]

Very obvious a lot of work still needed:

 

Senior Netanyahu adviser: Israel okayed Biden-touted hostage deal, but work needed

A senior adviser to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has confirmed that while there is still work that needs to be done on a hostage release deal presented by US President Joe Biden, Israel has agreed to the framework.

“There are a lot of details to be worked out and that includes there will not be a permanent ceasefire until all our objectives are met,” Ophir Falk told Britain’s Sunday Times newspaper.

According to the report, Falk stressed that Israel was not rejecting the deal, which he characterized as “a deal we agreed to — it’s not a good deal but we dearly want the hostages released, all of them.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/senior-netanyahu-adviser-israel-okayed-biden-touted-hostage-deal-but-work-needed

[Robert Paulson]

You know it’s bad when some of the worst people in history aren’t even on your side. 

[Robert Paulson]

11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Who is going to guarantee that once the hostages have been released israel doesn't claim that Hamas has reneged and goes back to flattening Gaza?

Without an external force to guarantee hostilities do not recommence once israel has the hostages it's all dependent on israel to keep it's side of the agreement and I do not trust netanyahu. He has too much to lose by ending the conflict to be trusted, and there are the ultra right in his government that have apparently said they will never accept such an agreement.

 

Wherever the peacekeeping comes from it should not be Americans. Gazans know that the US supplies the hardware and bombs that have killed so many of them, so they will probably not trust any US force to be unbiased.

No matter what Hamas does they will never stop their bombing. I can’t believe people don’t realize this. Hamas could surrender and release all hostages and Israel would just claim there are cells left and keep on obliterating them all. Israel believe every Palestinian is a future terrorist. Maybe that’s true who knows but even if it is it’s Israel’s doing. 

[Hawaiian]

3 hours ago, Robert Paulson said:

No matter what Hamas does they will never stop their bombing. I can’t believe people don’t realize this. Hamas could surrender and release all hostages and Israel would just claim there are cells left and keep on obliterating them all. Israel believe every Palestinian is a future terrorist. Maybe that’s true who knows but even if it is it’s Israel’s doing. 

It was Hamas that violated the last cease fire by firing rockets into Israel.

[Robert Paulson]

4 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

It was Hamas that violated the last cease fire by firing rockets into Israel.

Cool story bro

 

[thaibeachlovers]

As I said before, dead in the water. See the thread "Netanyahu Stresses No Permanent Ceasefire Until Hamas Is Crushed and Hostages Freed"

 

Netanyahu probably isn't going to let this conflict end for as long as possible.

 

I hope none of the pro israelis on here try and claim that it's Hamas stopping the agreement this time.

 

Biden must be livid about this. Not only is the proposal that he made a big deal out of a dead duck, but it's his BFF netanyahu that is giving him the finger salute.

Look like the Gaza disaster is going to be around for a while, threatening his chances in November.

[thaibeachlovers]

36 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said:

Cool story bro

 

Seems that in an alternate universe it's OK to kill 30,000 odd Palestinians by flying over Gaza and dropping dirty great big bombs, but they are not allowed to fight back.

I don't recall israel not dropping any bombs during the period of negotiations.

[Robert Paulson]

13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Seems that in an alternate universe it's OK to kill 30,000 odd Palestinians by flying over Gaza and dropping dirty great big bombs, but they are not allowed to fight back.

I don't recall israel not dropping any bombs during the period of negotiations.

My fav one is still the initial hospital bombing. I forget the name of the hospital. People swore is it was Hamas that did it. Now Israel bombs hospitals, or anything for that matter, Willy nilly, so it seems we figured out the big mystery who bombed that initial hospital while everyone was lied to that “Hamas did it”. 

Edited June 2 by Robert Paulson

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, Robert Paulson said:

My fav one is still the initial hospital bombing. I forget the name of the hospital. People swore is it was Hamas that did it. Now Israel Homs hospitals, or anything for that matter, Willy nilly, so it seems we figured out the big mystery who bombed that initial hospital while everyone was lied to that “Hamas did it”. 

Is that the one that it was claimed a Hamas rocket did it? Been so many lies that it's hard to remember which and when and about what. My favourite was the israeli clown information officer proclaiming a calendar was a roster of Hamas fighters and showing off the "command center", which any military person knows was a lie. A command center is more than a laptop in a store room. Given that the internet was apparently not working in Gaza, how was a laptop going to connect to the people it was commanding? Seems they are so arrogant that they don't even care about how stupid the lies are. They know the MSM will report it as the truth. Babies in microwaves etc. Even Biden was repeating the lies in public- apparently his minders had to walk that back later.

 

[Hawaiian]

1 hour ago, Robert Paulson said:

Cool story bro

 

What actually happened depends on who is doing the reporting.  Quite difficult to separate fact from fiction.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-resumes-gaza-military-operation-hamas-cease-fire-ends-rcna127541

Edited June 3 by Hawaiian
Additional comment.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Is that the one that it was claimed a Hamas rocket did it? Been so many lies that it's hard to remember which and when and about what. My favourite was the israeli clown information officer proclaiming a calendar was a roster of Hamas fighters and showing off the "command center", which any military person knows was a lie. A command center is more than a laptop in a store room. Given that the internet was apparently not working in Gaza, how was a laptop going to connect to the people it was commanding? Seems they are so arrogant that they don't even care about how stupid the lies are. They know the MSM will report it as the truth. Babies in microwaves etc. Even Biden was repeating the lies in public- apparently his minders had to walk that back later.

 

It was a Hamas rocket despite what Al Jazeera says. Even HRW had to admit it. You carry on in your make believe world eh.

 

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/26/gaza-findings-october-17-al-ahli-hospital-explosion

[Jeff the Chef]

Middle East Eye has exclusively obtained a copy of the ceasefire proposal that was made by Israel and passed by mediators to Hamas last week.

 

The Israeli proposal, which is a counteroffer to one mediated by the US, Qatar and Egypt on 6 May, says Israel has agreed to a "temporary cessation of military operations" for 42 days that will be followed by open-ended talks to reach a permanent ceasefire.

It says the "temporary ceasefire" can be extended after the initial 42-day phase "as long as negotiations on the conditions of stage two of [the] agreement are ongoing," the document says.

The Israeli response also offers limited withdrawal of troops in the first phase of the three-stage agreement and says the complete pull-out would take place in the second phase, which is subject to further discussions. 

It also stipulates that Israel can veto the release of at least 100 Palestinian prisoners serving life sentences in the first phase. 

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gaza-war-text-ceasefire-proposal-approved-israel

[Bkk Brian]

Wow, was posted 5 days ago

 

On 6/2/2024 at 8:18 AM, Bkk Brian said:

Full text to Biden's speech and how the new peace the proposal come into being:

 

Now, after intensive diplomacy carried out by my team and my many conversations with leaders of Israel, Qatar, and Egypt and other Middle Eastern countries, Israel has now offered — Israel has offered a comprehensive new proposal.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2024/05/31/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-middle-east-2/

 

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Middle East Eye has exclusively obtained a copy of the ceasefire proposal that was made by Israel and passed by mediators to Hamas last week.

 

The Israeli proposal, which is a counteroffer to one mediated by the US, Qatar and Egypt on 6 May, says Israel has agreed to a "temporary cessation of military operations" for 42 days that will be followed by open-ended talks to reach a permanent ceasefire.

It says the "temporary ceasefire" can be extended after the initial 42-day phase "as long as negotiations on the conditions of stage two of [the] agreement are ongoing," the document says.

The Israeli response also offers limited withdrawal of troops in the first phase of the three-stage agreement and says the complete pull-out would take place in the second phase, which is subject to further discussions. 

It also stipulates that Israel can veto the release of at least 100 Palestinian prisoners serving life sentences in the first phase. 

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gaza-war-text-ceasefire-proposal-approved-israel

Not only would the Palestinians be crazy to accept that, but IMO it was written in a way they knew that Hamas would be unlikely to agree to.

So much more time is needed for the total destruction of Gaza.

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Not only would the Palestinians be crazy to accept that, but IMO it was written in a way they knew that Hamas would be unlikely to agree to.

So much more time is needed for the total destruction of Gaza.

But they were very positive about the proposal until Iran signaled its discontent. 

 

Why would they be crazy to accept it? 

 

I see your last sentence and conspiracy theories trumps any logic.

[Neeranam]

Perhaps stop giving Israel bombs before you try to push a ceasfire.

 

Analysis of images of shrapnel gathered at the scene of an Israeli strike in Rafah on Sunday showed evidence of a bomb that was a U.S.-made.

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-made-bomb-israeli-strike-rafah-munitions-experts-say/

[Neeranam]

On 6/3/2024 at 6:40 AM, Robert Paulson said:

My fav one is still the initial hospital bombing. I forget the name of the hospital. People swore is it was Hamas that did it. Now Israel bombs hospitals, or anything for that matter, Willy nilly, so it seems we figured out the big mystery who bombed that initial hospital while everyone was lied to that “Hamas did it”. 

Good point. 

[Hanaguma]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Good point. 

True it wasn't Hamas. It was a rocket from Islamic Jihad that misfired and fell into the parking area of the hospital. Important to be accurate, people. 

 

It is common knowledge that Hamas uses hospitals and schools as cover for their operations. So they get bombed.  If so-called innocent Gazans want it to stop, all they have to do is tell the IDF where the Hamas dirtbags are hiding. The war would be over in a week and everyone would be safe. 

[Jeff the Chef]

4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

True it wasn't Hamas. It was a rocket from Islamic Jihad that misfired and fell into the parking area of the hospital. Important to be accurate, people. 

 

It is common knowledge that Hamas uses hospitals and schools as cover for their operations. So they get bombed.  If so-called innocent Gazans want it to stop, all they have to do is tell the IDF where the Hamas dirtbags are hiding. The war would be over in a week and everyone would be safe. 

 

Is that common knowledge or because the IDF says so?

 

So, hypothetically, Hamas surrenders, hands back all the live or dead hostages and everyone goes back home to wherever they lived prior to 7/10, what happens then, we carry on as before 7/10 with no changes?

[coolcarer]

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Is that common knowledge or because the IDF says so?

 

So, hypothetically, Hamas surrenders, hands back all the live or dead hostages and everyone goes back home to wherever they lived prior to 7/10, what happens then, we carry on as before 7/10 with no changes?

We know you prefer to believe Hamas so why ask?

 

It’s bot only IDF who says so by the way. 

[Jeff the Chef]

37 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

We know you prefer to believe Hamas so why ask?

 

It’s bot only IDF who says so by the way. 

 

That's it, good boy, make an accusation and avoid answering the question.

 

Which bot are you on about now?

[coolcarer]

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

That's it, good boy, make an accusation and avoid answering the question.

 

Which bot are you on about now?

Read my post again. I replied to a question. 
 

2 hours ago, coolcarer said:

 

It’s "bot not only" IDF who says so by the way.  Edited obvious error

what accusation?

[Jeff the Chef]

2 hours ago, coolcarer said:

We know you prefer to believe Hamas so why ask?

 

It’s "bot not only" IDF who says so by the way.  Edited obvious error

 

You make the accusation that I "prefer to believe Hamas" completely false, I do not believe Hamas, the same as I don't believe the IDF without any corroborating evidence, then you ask why.

 

My original questions to you:

 

Is that common knowledge or because the IDF says so?

 

So, hypothetically, Hamas surrenders, hands back all the live or dead hostages and everyone goes back home to wherever they lived prior to 7/10, what happens then, we carry on as before 7/10 with no changes?

 

You also wrote: "It’s bot only IDF who says so by the way."

 

I replied to that with: "Which bot are you on about now?" meaning, I have no idea what you are saying when you wrote "It's bot only IDF who say so by the way"

 

[coolcarer]

27 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

You make the accusation that I "prefer to believe Hamas" completely false, I do not believe Hamas, the same as I don't believe the IDF without any corroborating evidence, then you ask why.

 

My original questions to you:

 

Is that common knowledge or because the IDF says so?

 

So, hypothetically, Hamas surrenders, hands back all the live or dead hostages and everyone goes back home to wherever they lived prior to 7/10, what happens then, we carry on as before 7/10 with no changes?

 

You also wrote: "It’s bot only IDF who says so by the way."

 

I replied to that with: "Which bot are you on about now?" meaning, I have no idea what you are saying when you wrote "It's bot only IDF who say so by the way"

 

Not false at all.do you deny saying this

 

“Whatever Hamas does is lawful and above board"

 

Do you deny saying you don’t believe or trust IDF sources multiple times?

you never asked me any questions, you asked another poster not me……….lol

 

i did respond to one of your questions though

 

 

 

[Jeff the Chef]

1 hour ago, coolcarer said:

Not false at all.do you deny saying this

 

“Whatever Hamas does is lawful and above board"

 

Do you deny saying you don’t believe or trust IDF sources multiple times?

you never asked me any questions, you asked another poster not me……….lol

 

i did respond to one of your questions though

 

 

 

 

You're being disingenuous, I replied to Hanaguma and you then replied to me after that, as I said in my previous post to you those are my answers, like it or lump it, and that's your lot.

[coolcarer]

21 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

You're being disingenuous, I replied to Hanaguma and you then replied to me after that, as I said in my previous post to you those are my answers, like it or lump it, and that's your lot.

The level of response expected from you when faced with reality.

 

“Like it or lump it”