firewight Posted Monday at 03:18 AM Share Posted Monday at 03:18 AM Hi guys, in reviewing some posts here and other locations online, it seems that not all cable brands are equal when picking electrical cable to wire up a new house... I have heard some sparkies will not use certain brands because they are sub-par (as in the copper specified on the cable spec is not accurate ie: 2.5mm is not actually 2.5mm, but some lower measurement, etc), however I cannot find any information specifically on what brands to avoid. Has anyone run into this before, or have any further into to help me make the right choices? Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted Monday at 03:34 AM Share Posted Monday at 03:34 AM (edited) Just go with Bangkok Cable or Siam Cable Way Edited Monday at 03:34 AM by Gottfrid 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firewight Posted Monday at 03:39 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 03:39 AM 3 minutes ago, Gottfrid said: Just go with Bangkok Cable or Siam Cable Way Price is important, some brands get promotional pricing at different outlets, it is easier to know what to avoid than to wait for a particular brand to get a promotion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted Monday at 04:32 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:32 AM I have certainly come across undersize cable on sale, even from the big box outlets. The problem is going to be legality. Due to Thailand's draconian defamation and libel laws, we can't permit members to say on the open forum "XXX brand is not good, it's undersize and poor copper". From the forum rules https://aseannow.com/forum_rules/ Of course, it's perfectly ok to post that "I've used YYY cable and found them to be good." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UWEB Posted Monday at 07:42 AM Share Posted Monday at 07:42 AM I'm using Yazaki Cable or United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted Monday at 07:57 AM Share Posted Monday at 07:57 AM not all BLUE berries are blueberries youre welcome..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejets Posted Monday at 10:07 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:07 AM 5 hours ago, Crossy said: I have certainly come across undersize cable on sale, even from the big box outlets. The problem is going to be legality. Due to Thailand's draconian defamation and libel laws, we can't permit members to say on the open forum "XXX brand is not good, it's undersize and poor copper". From the forum rules https://aseannow.com/forum_rules/ Of course, it's perfectly ok to post that "I've used YYY cable and found them to be good." What is the world coming to when one cannot call a spade a spade. (F'n shovel)😇 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firewight Posted Monday at 02:03 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 02:03 PM 6 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said: not all BLUE berries are blueberries youre welcome..... Thanks, I'm sure there is meaning here I will have a dig around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago A somewhat extreme example, both these cables are "35mm2", neither is over-size! Rubber insulation is cheaper than copper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyai Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago I went to spray colour a white cable green, but when looking at it there were areas of red, so the manufacturer had painter a red cable insulation white, now I painted it green. Hope the electrons didn't mind. 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 22 minutes ago, carlyai said: I went to spray colour a white cable green, but when looking at it there were areas of red, so the manufacturer had painter a red cable insulation white, now I painted it green. Hope the electrons didn't mind. 🙂 Long ago when I worked on RN ship systems ALL wires were pink! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firewight Posted 19 hours ago Author Share Posted 19 hours ago 2 hours ago, Crossy said: A somewhat extreme example, both these cables are "35mm2", neither is over-size! Rubber insulation is cheaper than copper! This is exactly what I am trying to avoid 😉 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firewight Posted 19 hours ago Author Share Posted 19 hours ago @Crossy as you seem to have a world of experience with this, do you think in-wall/ceiling permanent (non moving) electrical cabling needs to be solid core, or is stranded core also acceptable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 2 hours ago, firewight said: @Crossy as you seem to have a world of experience with this, do you think in-wall/ceiling permanent (non moving) electrical cabling needs to be solid core, or is stranded core also acceptable? Hardly a world of experience, but one tries to assist 🙂 I would stick to: - =<2.5mm2 - solid conductor 4mm2 - solid or stranded (7 strands) >=6mm2 - stranded (7 strands) THW if running in conduit or VAF-G if not. Most sizes of THW are available as THW(f) which has many fine strands and is much less of a wrestle to get the larger sizes into your conduit. However, care is needed when terminating and, dependent upon the type of terminal you are connecting to, you may need to use crimp-ferrules to avoid cutting the strands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firewight Posted 15 hours ago Author Share Posted 15 hours ago I was thinking of doing VAF-G in conduit, just to minimize any vermin bites or issues with exposed cable down the line... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 10 minutes ago, firewight said: I was thinking of doing VAF-G in conduit, just to minimize any vermin bites or issues with exposed cable down the line... That works. Check if you need to go larger on conduit because of the cable sheath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firewight Posted 14 hours ago Author Share Posted 14 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Crossy said: That works. Check if you need to go larger on conduit because of the cable sheath. It'll definitely need larger conduit than 3 singles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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